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Just as a heads up, tomorrow's update will have to be delayed one extra day to Friday. I swear this'll be the last time and I'll get back to my one day on two day off pace, the only reason I couldn't be ready in time is because my writing time had to be sacrificed so I could relentlessly hunt down the best odds for my housing bid. God I hope I win this time...
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Completely understandable, housing in FFXIV is the true end-game.
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Jul 14, 2022 10:09
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Hellioning posted:I think I got pointed to the guildhests on my first character Back In The Day. Either that or I just did them out of a sense of completeness. Originally during the 2.X part of the MSQ, you'd be required to complete the level 30 guildhest, which was probably the first time most players even realized it was a thing.
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Jul 14, 2022 11:43
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah they never actually put the Limit Break on your hotbar. Sure they'll put the button that opens the Lodestone in a browser window, but they won't put Limit Break on there. On controller, LB is on the default hotbar 1 of every newly aquired job. Or at least it always has been for me, right up through EW jobs. Granted I never leave it in the spot the game puts it.
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Jul 14, 2022 12:56
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You might be mistaking the Autoattack button for LB. The default four buttons on controller are always Sprint, Teleport, Return, Autoattack.
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Jul 14, 2022 13:15
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.. what does the autoattack button even do?
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Jul 14, 2022 13:16
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DanielCross posted:You might be mistaking the Autoattack button for LB. The default four buttons on controller are always Sprint, Teleport, Return, Autoattack. Hmm maybe? They do look kind of similar. And ripping those four buttons out to be replaced with other things generally happens in the first couple seconds so it isn't like I ever actually push it.
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Jul 14, 2022 13:17
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Guildhests are just a myth, you can't tell me that they're real.
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Jul 14, 2022 13:56
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Pyro Jack posted:Guildhests are just a myth, you can't tell me that they're real. Oh no, they're real. Guildhests are real. It's Mentors who use Mentor Roulette to actually help sprouts learn difficult fights that are the myth.
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Jul 14, 2022 14:05
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For ARR classes, the xp bonus for first time completion of each guildhest isn't terrible. Worth doing to get over the hump to normal roulettes at least.
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Jul 14, 2022 15:49
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W.T. Fits posted:Oh no, they're real. Guildhests are real. : ( All my efforts to type on the virtual controller how to do Ramuh EX and Thornmarch EX, unappreciated : (
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Jul 14, 2022 17:17
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OddObserver posted:.. what does the autoattack button even do? Even if you draw your weapon and target a mob, unless you actually use autoattack you won't swing at them. You can tell autoattack is active when you see the little circle made of two arrows spinning over the mob's head (or maybe their status bar, I forget where this shows up). Physical skills/WS automatically trigger autoattack but spells don't so if you're a melee/ranged DPS you've never noticed autoattack being a separate thing and if you're a mage you won't start physically bonking them with your weapon unless you use autoattack even if you close within melee range.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:07
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Magic DPS cast times also prevent most autoattacks, which are very low damage anyway, so it's of limited use.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:12
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Autoattacking is BLM's second dot
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Jul 14, 2022 18:14
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I’ve definitely bonked the boss without hitting anything other than target as WHM before when I’m on an enemy’s rear end to be near the tank. It’s just really rare as a caster or healer you have enough downtime to bonk because you’re normally casting. I think it can only happen when you weave oGCDs or stand around doing nothing.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:45
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I mean, what else are you going to do on Amon or Greg when you're silenced?
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Jul 14, 2022 18:47
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It should be noted that on controller, pressing X (or whatever your equivalent is) a second time once you've targeted an enemy activates Autoattack (even if you're well out of range), so the Autoattack skill on your Cross Hotbar is extra useless.
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Jul 14, 2022 18:59
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It's extra funny when you manage to autoattack as SGE. Since they don't actually hold their weapons at all, their autoattack is just punching.
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Jul 14, 2022 19:03
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With a mouse you can right-click on the target in melee range and your auto attack starts.
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Jul 14, 2022 19:06
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the point I realized autoattack was a thing that was even happening at all was when I started putting a lot of time into ninja and would, when backing out of orange spots, occasionally just out of nowhere get the "target out of range" error on my screen, even though I obviously wasn't pushing buttons while I was dodging. that and/or occasionally forgetting what button I'm supposed to be hitting and watching my elf just thwack a guy for 50 HP while I'm trying to read my bars. is there any point at all where the game tells you how or when to limit break? I honestly don't remember being told to go find the button, and I definitely only learned that there was one LB bar per group when I stole it out from under someone else in an actual dungeon.
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Jul 14, 2022 20:13
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The game gives you the limit break tutorial during your first dungeon, which is bad because you're already getting bombarded with tutorials at that time. Even if you're not sick of tutorials or anxious that your group is going to move on without you if you take the time to read the messages, it's way too much to process all at once.
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Jul 14, 2022 20:18
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Also the middle of a dungeon isn't a great place to stop and drag abilities onto your hotbar
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Jul 14, 2022 22:03
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They SHOULD have added a mention to the new dungeon tutorial they added with the Duty Support system, but they didn't.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:17
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Limit Break is simply one of those things the game fails at communicating to new players. Giving you an LB3 in the Ultima fight is nice but the entire concept isn’t really given more than passing mention and chances are the first time a new player presses the button they’re going to be told it was bad to do so. Tank LB being a selective thing only needed in raiding (such as Bahamut’s Terflare in Coils) and only showing up in casual everyman content very recently probably doesn’t help. It’s sort of like Rescue. I leveled ARR as a healer, and when I got Rescue I simply googled it and saw people at Reddit suggesting you don’t even bother to equip it to your HUD because any use of rescue, even positive contributory ones, will annoy people. In the 1.0 days when ARR was in development the Limit Break was the “oh wow look at that” moment of ARR trailers (the whole party would pose for it in these prerelease clips), so maybe back then it didn’t need much explanation or figuring out when to use it was part of the challenge, but today the game just sort of assumes you’re familiar with it. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Jul 14, 2022 22:17
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Ziddar posted:It's extra funny when you manage to autoattack as SGE. Since they don't actually hold their weapons at all, their autoattack is just punching. A left hook is a perfectly viable auto-attack.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:34
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Yeah, back when I was first starting, I figured that Limit Break was just yet another thing that was locked behind MSQ progression.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:35
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I'd been playing for months when I finally used LB in some random dungeon, as a healer of course, partially to figure out what exactly that bar was for but mostly to see if everyone had our own bar or if it was shared because I had no recollection of that information being imparted.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:38
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The whole party still poses for a Limit Break, just that they usually clip the animation immediately because they're pushing buttons or moving. In fairness, the way individual LBs work in PvP is both cooler and more intuitive than PvE. It really shouldn't be the case that LB is something only the DPS gets to use (outside of two specific situations) and some jerk will still yell at you if you're the wrong DPS to use it. Let everybody periodically do something cool and flashy in a fight, I say.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:47
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I really think the revamped Lahabrea fight should have ended with a guaranteed LB3 just for you in the solo duty. The revamped Ultima Weapon is a nice idea, but if you're the tank or healer it's no go for you, and if you're dps you're competing with the other dps - and if you're a ranged character and they're melee, they get priority. Tank LB3 is only really used in two specific fights where it's explicitly required, and healer LB3 is something you ideally will never see in the entire game because it's a last-ditch tool to attempt to recover from a wipe.
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Jul 14, 2022 23:01
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The end of your post explains why they don't give you what you asked for at the beginning. What good is a healer LB3 in a solo duty?
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Jul 14, 2022 23:04
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Craptacular! posted:The end of your post explains why they don't give you what you asked for at the beginning. What good is a healer LB3 in a solo duty? "Oh no Lahabrea just nuked all your buddies over there! Go do your Big Thing!"
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Jul 14, 2022 23:05
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I think I've used a LB maybe three times after probably hundreds of hours of playtime. I definitely didn't add a shortcut to any of my hotbars before HW. Hell, I think I've ended up in the new Ultima Weapon fight in a MSQ roulette and realized I didn't have a LB shortcut on the bar for the class I was playing.
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Jul 14, 2022 23:05
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Dedekind posted:That was my suggestion, I’m sorry. I hit 90 RPR off of a FATE completing while I was dead on the floor, which felt deeply appropriate.
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Jul 14, 2022 23:08
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I remember when I was a sprout. For the longest time, I kept wondering why people were talking about pounds in chat. 
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Jul 14, 2022 23:33
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I don't know whether ffxiv renaming all of its units of measurements (ilms, yalms, ponze, etc) is very charming or very obnoxious.
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Cythereal posted:I really think the revamped Lahabrea fight should have ended with a guaranteed LB3 just for you in the solo duty. The revamped Ultima Weapon is a nice idea, but if you're the tank or healer it's no go for you, and if you're dps you're competing with the other dps - and if you're a ranged character and they're melee, they get priority. Fixed. Like I know you never got into hard content and that's understandable, but healer LB definitively sees a lot of use when you haven't learned a fight yet. Tank LB is indeed pretty rare, though. Outside of forced moments you only use it to cheese very specific mechanics like Ultima EX orbs or a current raid boss.
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Jul 14, 2022 23:41
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YggiDee posted:I don't know whether ffxiv renaming all of its units of measurements (ilms, yalms, ponze, etc) is very charming or very obnoxious. I seem to recall that 1 yalm is the height of 1 average Lalafell
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Jul 14, 2022 23:54
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So 1 yalm = 1 potato
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Jul 14, 2022 23:59
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Healer LB gets used a lot when my FC does normal raids but that's because it's normal for most of us to get killed
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YggiDee posted:I don't know whether ffxiv renaming all of its units of measurements (ilms, yalms, ponze, etc) is very charming or very obnoxious. They should come up with more and more weird fantasy names for weird units of measurements. I wanna see the Eorzean equivalent of "furlong" or "dram"
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