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Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
It would be sick as hell for John Wick to be chasing some dudes down the street in his chicken hut, firing a rifle at them as he goes.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Push El Burrito posted:

It would be sick as hell for John Wick to be chasing some dudes down the street in his chicken hut, firing a rifle at them as he goes.

The burglar in the first movie doesn't get near the dog because he's too busy making GBS threads himself as Keanu belts this song while stalking him through his home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt3USF3bVZU

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Ahhh poo poo, I can't get revenge against the Russian mafia, they made friends with the milk river and it hid them among its jelly banks. gently caress now I gotta see if the talking oven in the middle of a field or that sentient apple tree can help out. gently caress.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
The apple tree is played by Lawrence Fishburne.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider

Phanatic posted:

It always bugged me that they call John Wick "Baba Yaga" as a translation of "Bogeyman." They're two entirely different concepts, Baba Yaga is an old witch who lives in a hut with chicken legs and flies around in a mortar, rowing it with a pestle. She's a trickster god, not a "Rat on your pop, and Keyser Soze will get you" figure.

If they wanted to go with the pop-culture Slavic reference, Chernobog would have made much more sense.

Except he's not the boogeyman.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

christmas boots posted:

Except he's not the boogeyman.

No, but the black god of misfortune is a lot closer to what "Bogeyman" is going for than Baba Yaga is.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Doesn't Baba Yaga eat naughty children?

Or am I confusing her for another hag?

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

nesamdoom posted:

I'm sorry to derail alil, but last I was looking at was about music. I was wondering if any movies have good examples of a thematic song that plays multiple times in the movie but it a progression. Like they have an intro in the beginning and maybe one or two parts during the film and an end to the song either in the last bit of the movie or they get to the credits with it?

Not a movie, but the way the BBC series 'Life on Mars' uses the titular song is really emotionally satisfying.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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Illegal Hen

Phanatic posted:

It always bugged me that they call John Wick "Baba Yaga" as a translation of "Bogeyman." They're two entirely different concepts, Baba Yaga is an old witch who lives in a hut with chicken legs and flies around in a mortar, rowing it with a pestle. She's a trickster god, not a "Rat on your pop, and Keyser Soze will get you" figure.

If they wanted to go with the pop-culture Slavic reference, Chernobog would have made much more sense.

I know it's the flimsiest of connections but I like that Peter Stormare was in John Wick: Chapter 2 facing against John "Baba Yaga" Wick…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPwPgQDyt_0

… then played Chernobog in American Gods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8aDoLxkJY

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
He played such a good Satan.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
A FUCGKINK PENSAHL

God that man can chew scenery with the best of em.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

FreudianSlippers posted:

Doesn't Baba Yaga eat naughty children?

Or am I confusing her for another hag?

Baba Yaga traditionally eats whatever children she can catch. But good children are probably not out in the woods or have Eastern Orthodox Jesus to protect them, so she can't get them

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

Morpheus posted:

Show me the climactic poker game match finale where one guy has like a king high and the other a pair of nines.
Lock, Stock and two smoking barrels.

Although one of the players is cheating and knows that the other one has an even worse hand than his. The winning hand is a pair of 7s.

That Italian Guy has a new favorite as of 22:15 on Jul 14, 2022

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Phanatic posted:

He played such a good Satan.

Constantine is a really fun movie

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

I love that scene, but I didn't remember that the crappy casino had War.

I literally was that dealer from time to time.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I just re-watched The Fighter again which is a fantastic movie with really great performances.

I had forgotten though that the movie never touches on the three fights with Arturo Gatti that essentially made Mickey Ward famous and got him into the boxing hall of fame. They address it with some captions at the end but that trilogy was legendary and every fight was an absolute loving war with non stop action. I can't figure out why they didn't re-enact at least one of those fights or, better yet, shorten up some of the comeback arc and make the second half of the movie about those three matches.

You could almost make a sequel to it just focusing on that.

Also:

Casino Royale

Bond and his team are in there and take a break after playing. There's a big donnybrook in the stairwell with the terrorist money laundering guy but no cameras in there? In a casino with a 15 million dollar buy in? There'd be a camera every five feet.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

BiggerBoat posted:

Casino Royale

Bond and his team are in there and take a break after playing. There's a big donnybrook in the stairwell with the terrorist money laundering guy but no cameras in there? In a casino with a 15 million dollar buy in? There'd be a camera every five feet.

Casinos might need to have surveillance legally, but they don't really want to spend too much money on it because it doesn't generate money. A stairwell would probably have some lovely time delay camera or one that only covers 50% of the area and has the resolution of a phone camera from 2005.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Elissimpark posted:

Casinos might need to have surveillance legally, but they don't really want to spend too much money on it because it doesn't generate money. A stairwell would probably have some lovely time delay camera or one that only covers 50% of the area and has the resolution of a phone camera from 2005.
As someone who actually is in the casino business, they care very much about surveillance, and even the shittiest casino has excellent cameras that cover every inch of the property that isn't a bathroom/employee locker room.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Where "generate money" means "deters cheating" it very much does generate money.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Phanatic posted:

Where "generate money" means "deters cheating" it very much does generate money.

If a casino finds out a dealer is cheating, they let them cheat until it's a felony amount of money and they have enough video evidence to get them dead to rights. Once they've got that, they let the dealer come in, clock in, and go to their table. Then they come down with cops and casino security, take the dealer off the game, handcuff them, and perpwalk them across the casino floor as an example to all the other dealers: if you cheat, this is what will happen to you. After that the dealer goes to jail and they have to pay back every dollar they stole.

It's medieval. It's bone-chilling. I've personally seen it done, with my own eyes, at two different casinos in two different states. Casinos don't gently caress around when it comes to the money.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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Illegal Hen
Sounds like the challenge is finding the threshold of how much can a person steal from a casino before they consider it enough of a big deal.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

As someone who actually is in the casino business, they care very much about surveillance, and even the shittiest casino has excellent cameras that cover every inch of the property that isn't a bathroom/employee locker room.

It may vary casino to casino, but I worked casino surveillance for a large casino (the only casino, incidentally, which might inform their views of surveillance) in a major Australian city, and the department was tolerated, but management seemed to be irritated that we kinda made the transferring of money from punters to the casino a bit more annoying than they'd like.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

A FUCGKINK PENSAHL

God that man can chew scenery with the best of em.

He makes schlock like Armageddon and Prison Break nearly watchable in parts. In stuff like Fargo and The Big Lebowski he really elevates it.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Elissimpark posted:

It may vary casino to casino, but I worked casino surveillance for a large casino (the only casino, incidentally, which might inform their views of surveillance) in a major Australian city, and the department was tolerated, but management seemed to be irritated that we kinda made the transferring of money from punters to the casino a bit more annoying than they'd like.

From my bit limited knowledge of Aussie casinos and there management I would not be at all surprised if said management tried their hardest to cut corners and run them like poo poo.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

dr_rat posted:

From my bit limited knowledge of Aussie casinos and there management I would not be at all surprised if said management tried their hardest to cut corners and run them like poo poo.

I think when you don't have local competition, you get to run a casino somewhat differently.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
Fifteen minutes into Men in Black: International, the movie has already done a lot to make me dislike one of the protagonists. I understand there is a thematic quality to making your character unlikable but then give them some redemption arc, but there's this scene where a coworker of his makes fun of him for being such an asskisser and for being a lovely worker. What irritates me about this is that from the way the other guy looks -- the guy complaining, not the unlikable protagonist -- it's like he himself is designed to be unliked. He is balding, with glasses, kind of pudgy, he has a whiny voice, all the little things that movies do to make sure you know which one you're supposed to like. And I don't like him, for the reasons I just listed, but he's still a more likable person than the protagonist. So now I'm left wondering, am I supposed to not like the protagonist? He's a jerk, he's not funny, he looks like a pretty boy model, everything he says is selfish and rude, he's a womanizer, he's awful at his job, he's an asskisser... but in the same way the movie has all these micro-indicators so you dislike one character, it's like they're doing the opposite for the protagonist.

I feel like the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie did this, too. Every single thing Chris Pratt's character did just made me dislike him more and more and it was halfway through the movie before I started to feel like I'm supposed to be liking this guy, not waiting for his redemption arc.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

If a casino finds out a dealer is cheating, they let them cheat until it's a felony amount of money and they have enough video evidence to get them dead to rights. Once they've got that, they let the dealer come in, clock in, and go to their table. Then they come down with cops and casino security, take the dealer off the game, handcuff them, and perpwalk them across the casino floor as an example to all the other dealers: if you cheat, this is what will happen to you. After that the dealer goes to jail and they have to pay back every dollar they stole.

It's medieval. It's bone-chilling. I've personally seen it done, with my own eyes, at two different casinos in two different states. Casinos don't gently caress around when it comes to the money.

I've seen this happen too. Except instead of a casino it was a Home Depot and instead of a dealer cheating it was a teenaged cashier making minimum wage and he was helping some contractors shoplift by not ringing them up for everything and then taking some small amount of money for himself. Exact same deal though, they watched him until it was a felony and then had him perp walked from his register in the middle of the busiest shift by a platoon of cops. They purposely went out the door farthest from the register so the maximum number of people could see. I loving hated that place so much.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

I think I praised Men In Black 3 before and I kind of want to walk that back. The villain is a poor attempt to recapture the magic of Edgar - there doesn't even seem to be an excuse for why Boris is human looking in the first place

Though it is (unintentionally) pretty apt that hiring more black and female cops in no way leads to reform of their treatment of aliens

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


MIB3 also has extremely confusing time travel mechanics. The climax of the movie has Boris injure J by shooting a bunch of spikes into him, J activates the time machine which somehow just rewinds time instead of actually traveling because J is back where he started and is uninjured.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

MIB3 also has extremely confusing time travel mechanics. The climax of the movie has Boris injure J by shooting a bunch of spikes into him, J activates the time machine which somehow just rewinds time instead of actually traveling because J is back where he started and is uninjured.

I hate when movies can't keep it straight. I know a while back there was a Michael Bay produced time travel movie where it was all about Groundhog Day shenanigans but halfway through it decided characters also could run into themselves

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I've seen this happen too. Except instead of a casino it was a Home Depot and instead of a dealer cheating it was a teenaged cashier making minimum wage and he was helping some contractors shoplift by not ringing them up for everything and then taking some small amount of money for himself. Exact same deal though, they watched him until it was a felony and then had him perp walked from his register in the middle of the busiest shift by a platoon of cops. They purposely went out the door farthest from the register so the maximum number of people could see. I loving hated that place so much.
Yeah this kind of thing is completely ridiculous. Just put them in the stocks and pillory and force us to throw company-provided rotten tomatoes at them during our breaks. That would actually be less harsh than the current system

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
Looper.

Everyone likes a happy ending but the time travel mechanic is so staged.

Past mutilations from time travelers with pruning shears affect the victim gradually in the future/present for dramatic effect with no explanation of why they took place at that moment. No memory of the assault happening in their past just missing digits, limbs, facial fetures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxqe8Xq6LBQ

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

In the James Bond Film "The Living Daylights", I just thought of an irrationally irritating moment.

In the bit late in the film after James Bond pretended to kill the Russian politician played by John Rys Davies. The next day the baddies are sitting around the pool laughing about how their plan had worked, and the politician was dead and James Bond had been fingered for the crime.

But he was only pretending to be dead, in fact he wasn't even doing that. He was just pretending to have been shot, and immediately sits up and scolds his grieving wife seconds after they are out of sight backstage. So surely the news, (and a Russian politician getting shot by a British Agent is big international news), would have reported "Politician shot by British spy, but survives the shooting". Coz he was up and about afterwards.

According to plot logic they only had to fool the baddie assassin for that night, to stop him shooting JRD for real. But wouldn't he go home, read the papers, and once he realized that the dude wasn't dead, have to try again. Thus further endangering JRD, and making James Bond's plan useless?

Of course the way around this is if the politician actually did fake his death, and him getting up and scolding his wife was only in the company of fellow conspirators. Which seems unlikely as he and James only came up with the plan the night before between the two of them. And his wife seemed genuinely sad he was shot.

Nevertheless, (and I know this is not a majority opinion), I maintain that it is one of the better Bond films. The Gibraltar sequence is fun, all 3 of the main baddies are excellent and charismatic, I even like the cellist who plays the love interest.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I've seen this happen too. Except instead of a casino it was a Home Depot and instead of a dealer cheating it was a teenaged cashier making minimum wage and he was helping some contractors shoplift by not ringing them up for everything and then taking some small amount of money for himself. Exact same deal though, they watched him until it was a felony and then had him perp walked from his register in the middle of the busiest shift by a platoon of cops. They purposely went out the door farthest from the register so the maximum number of people could see. I loving hated that place so much.

home depot is literally the only place I've ever seen with smug placards at every entrance touting their drug testing policy, like they're loving proud of preventing their wage-slaves of partaking in something recreationally legal across nearly half of the US. Just absolute insane capitalism brainworms poo poo.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
"The peons must suffer" is such a huge part of boomer brain.

The same reason retail workers aren't allowed to sit down or have a drink bottle next to them in many places.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Rockman Reserve posted:

home depot is literally the only place I've ever seen with smug placards at every entrance touting their drug testing policy, like they're loving proud of preventing their wage-slaves of partaking in something recreationally legal across nearly half of the US. Just absolute insane capitalism brainworms poo poo.

So even in states where Marijuana is legal, Home Depot can/will fire you for testing positive?

Surely that has to be against some sort of labour law?

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

BrigadierSensible posted:

So even in states where Marijuana is legal, Home Depot can/will fire you for testing positive?

Surely that has to be against some sort of labour law?

No labor laws are federal and it's illegal federally.

Plus 'right to work' is the doctrine of the Land in most places.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
The Lake House has I think the worst resolution in any time-related movie. The movie spends ninety minutes reinforcing the Rules of Time Travel. It constantly hits you over the head with demonstrating how the time thing is fixed and you can't manipulate it and blah blah blah. It's not a great movie but it's compelling in that you spend the entire movie Knowing That You Can't Change Time and also knowing that there is this really unfortunate thing about to happen. And so while again, it's not a great movie, it did have me on edge because I really wanted to know how it was going to be resolved. And you know how it was resolved? It loving wasn't. It's just, oh hurrr here I am lol time what don't worry I'm here happy ending lol credits quick don't think about it

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Mamkute
Sep 2, 2018
Naruto Episode 73: Orochimaru uses Zaku and Rin as sacrifices to Reanimate the 1st and 2nd Hokage. Who was the sacrifice to use to bring back the 4th? It could not have been Dosu, because he was obliterated.

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