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Jeez the global Crown models look nice, particularly the SUV. Of course we get what we loving deserve.
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Franco Caution posted:drat Z06 is now above 100k base. Also a base C8 is quicker, faster, tighter, sharper, and a hell of a lot better built than a C5Z06.
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Jul 16, 2022 03:44
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ilkhan posted:Welcome to inflation. And I still would get the C5 in a blink because I could sidestep the clutch do a sick rear end burnout.
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Jul 16, 2022 04:10
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Same but also in C6 and C7 Z06 flavors.
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Jul 16, 2022 05:32
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When is the electric Vette going to be released because I want to see the boomers explode in rage
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Jul 16, 2022 05:42
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smooth jazz posted:Is the entire rear end piano black plastic? That’s gotta be an error or be the case for the higher power one (probably still a low estimate), no reason it can’t get low 40s like the current ES hybrid.
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KakerMix posted:When is the electric Vette going to be released because I want to see the boomers explode in rage It's gonna be a SUV, the Corvette Mach-E 
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smooth jazz posted:Jeez the global Crown models look nice, particularly the SUV. Looks kind of like one of the Alfa SUVs? It's OK for what it is but I hope the cowards make a RWD Athlete sedan too.
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Jul 16, 2022 08:50
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Inner Light posted:It's gonna be a SUV, the Corvette Mach-E It's a GM it'll have to be the Corvette Mach-SS Or Mach ZL-1 or some poo poo. Speaking of ev poo poo, I can't be the only one that would think its sweet if manufacturers started releasing Electric cars in old body styles am I? I don't mean retro looking poo poo, but actual OLD bodies. I know it'll never happen, probably because of crash safety reasons, but I think it'd be dope as gently caress to buy brand new Fox body Electric Mustang or some poo poo. A Four eyed Fox with T-Tops  Its not like they'd have to worry too much about aerodynamics to help with fuel efficiency.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:And I still would get the C5 in a blink because I could sidestep the clutch do a sick rear end burnout. I was trying to think of a stick shift v8 car that'll still be on sale in 2024 other than the new mustang. Camaro will be gone, Corvette is auto only, all the mopar stuff is auto only. Is there anything else? Kinda makes me want to buy an S650 Mustang GT in a "now or never" sort of way.
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:It's a GM it'll have to be the Corvette Mach-SS EVs seem to make an even bigger deal over aerodynamics in order to maximize range. Flush door handles and black plastic bits over the wheel rims etc. Retro inspired can be cool if done well, the upcoming Renault 5 EV is something I could see myself driving in a few years:  
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Franco Caution posted:Same but also in C6 and C7 Z06 flavors. gonna fill a field with these when the boomers all die off.
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Jul 16, 2022 14:28
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:It's a GM it'll have to be the Corvette Mach-SS Crash test poo poo is far too stringent for this to ever happen unfortunately but I agree that it would be very cool. Happy to sign a contract to say I know what I'm getting myself into in terms of safety features (none).
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Someone created a website to track dealer markups. https://markups.org
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PBCrunch posted:Idea time! This except with a twin turbo v8 and an 8spd dct
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sanchez posted:I was trying to think of a stick shift v8 car that'll still be on sale in 2024 other than the new mustang. Camaro will be gone, Corvette is auto only, all the mopar stuff is auto only. Is there anything else? Kinda makes me want to buy an S650 Mustang GT in a "now or never" sort of way. I thought Dodge only took away the manual option from the Hellcats. R/T and Scat Packs still have it, no?
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sanchez posted:I was trying to think of a stick shift v8 car that'll still be on sale in 2024 other than the new mustang. Camaro will be gone, Corvette is auto only, all the mopar stuff is auto only. Is there anything else? Kinda makes me want to buy an S650 Mustang GT in a "now or never" sort of way. Reasons why I pulled the trigger on my 2021 Miata earlier this year. weirdly chilly pussy posted:EVs seem to make an even bigger deal over aerodynamics in order to maximize range. Flush door handles and black plastic bits over the wheel rims etc. Retro inspired can be cool if done well, the upcoming Renault 5 EV is something I could see myself driving in a few years: Yes please, please bring this to the states. I recently saw the Bolt redesign and have been seriously considering one to replace my Elantra GT Sport… kinda over having a gas daily.
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sanchez posted:I was trying to think of a stick shift v8 car that'll still be on sale in 2024 other than the new mustang. Camaro will be gone, Corvette is auto only, all the mopar stuff is auto only. Is there anything else? Kinda makes me want to buy an S650 Mustang GT in a "now or never" sort of way. Aston Martin V8 Vantage?
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Skipopatomus posted:I thought Dodge only took away the manual option from the Hellcats. R/T and Scat Packs still have it, no? Looks like you are correct on the challenger, I had no idea fridge corn posted:Aston Martin V8 Vantage? Looked this up for fun, can't tell for sure but they may have been discontinued this year. sanchez fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jul 16, 2022 |
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:It's a GM it'll have to be the Corvette Mach-SS Corvette EStingRay ohhhh can they steal Manta Ray from Opel for a Corvette Manta Ray SUV EV SS? or ChevEtte Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jul 16, 2022 |
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Ambassadorofsodomy posted:CorvEtte  The Corvette that's like a yeti, AWD EV with a CUV like lift, huge tire gap and a lot of plastic trim along the bottom half of the body and fenders.
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Elem7 posted:a lot of plastic trim along the bottom half of the body and fenders. Now now, its a Chevy not a Pontiac.
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McTinkerson posted:https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-n-vision-74-first-look-build-now/ This is now officially my dream car and I will move hell and high water to purchase this if it ever comes out, an incredible looking car holy gently caress
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Whats the provenance of the wheels styling on that Vision 74? The only thing I remember looking them is RC car wheels in the 80s or 90s but I assume there's some motorsport relevance or something.
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bird with big dick posted:Whats the provenance of the wheels styling on that Vision 74? The only thing I remember looking them is RC car wheels in the 80s or 90s but I assume there's some motorsport relevance or something. https://www.motortrend.com/features/turbofan-wheel-history-design-photos-details/ quote:Typically, an early racing turbofan wheel was little more than a flat, round plate backed with vanes, bolted to the outside of the car's wheel. The idea was that the flat outer surface produced less aerodynamic drag, while the vanes inside the wheel would still distribute ample cooling air over the brakes.
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sanchez posted:Looked this up for fun, can't tell for sure but they may have been discontinued this year. Okay not a v8 but how about a V12 Vantage? Hard to think they'd axe the v8 vantage without replacing it. Idk I've been out of the loop with astons for a while. Who knows what's going on over there and how much they're struggling with just turning the lights on every morning
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mobby_6kl posted:Looks kind of like one of the Alfa SUVs? The higher performance one has an electric motor on the rear axle from the RZ/BZ, there will never be a new rwd crown. It’s also on the same Russian Bear fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jul 16, 2022 |
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Russian Bear posted:The higher performance one has an electric motor on the rear axle from the RZ/BZ, there will never be a new rwd crown. It’s also on the same platform as the new electric SUVs so it’s primed for going electric in however long, also explains the lifted thing so you can fit the battery later without crunching the interior. Also the new NE Miata just leaked, they're taking weight saving even more seriously now. 
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instrumented tests of the hummer are out. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a40618071/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-pickup-edition-1-by-the-numbers/ Highlights: 9640lbs. With a 10,400 gvwr, that givers the hummer EV a payload capacity of 760 pounds, meaning with 5 150lbs occupants, you have 10lbs left over for cargo. 0-60 in 3.3 seconds 70-0 braking in 211 feet, 31 feet longer than a lightning. 100-0 braking in 504 feet, 187 feet longer than a WRX. (C&D unfortunately does not test non-performance vehicles from 100-0) It has a 290 mile range at 75mph, a 212.7 kwh battery pack, and a 11.5kw onboard charger, meaning charging with the onboard charger would take 18.5 hours from empty. or give you roughly 15.67 miles per hour of charging. The Ford Lightning has a 300 mile range, 131kwh battery, and 19.2kw onboard charger, meaning charging with the onboard charger would take 6.8 hours from empty, or give you 44 miles of charge per hour of charging. There will obviously be differences based on the state of charge. Hummer states that in perfect conditions, a 350kw fast charger gives you 100 miles in 10 minutes. e: The Hyundai Kona N, with a GVWR of 4250lbs and a tested weight of 3343lbs has a payload capacity of 907lbs. 147lbs more than the hummer. Powershift fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 17, 2022 |
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They've managed to make the new Hummer as ostentatiously wasteful and stupid as the old one which is pretty impressive in a way
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heated game moment posted:They've managed to make the new Hummer as ostentatiously wasteful and stupid as the old one which is pretty impressive in a way I think it was Doug who said that if an electric Hummer would to succeed, it needs to be even more "antisocial" than the ICE ones. And boy is it ever. 200+ ft to stop at highway speeds, loving yikes. More than double the distance of an X7: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2019-bmw-x7-xdrive40i-first-test-review/ but that thing only (🙄) weighs 5300lbs Sab669 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jul 17, 2022 |
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I gotta ask who the gently caress can even afford a hundred thousand dollar EV at all these days, especially for a hummer, we’ve now reached prices that open higher end sports cars at this point.
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heated game moment posted:They've managed to make the new Hummer as ostentatiously wasteful and stupid as the old one which is pretty impressive in a way Honestly. The whole 'just make it an EV' thing is utterly pointless when it's this heavy and uses quite this many resources that could be instead put into anything else. I worked out a while back that the Hummer's battery pack could be instead put into ~640 nice Specialized Levo bikes yielding a far better bang for your buck out of the raw materials. Also the physics of something this heavy is insane and disgusting.
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Al-Saqr posted:I gotta ask who the gently caress can even afford a hundred thousand dollar EV at all these days, especially for a hummer, we’ve now reached prices that open higher end sports cars at this point. I'm convinced there is this whole hidden demographic behind the scenes that keeps to themselves but makes enough to buy poo poo like this. It's the same reason every smaller manufacturer is trying to move upmarket. It's meant for the hidden people who are doing surprisingly well all things considered. Not rich, just rich to me and you. Every single person I meet, or comment I read is "lol who the gently caress can afford this poo poo? It ain't for me or anyone I know."
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Al-Saqr posted:I gotta ask who the gently caress can even afford a hundred thousand dollar EV at all these days, especially for a hummer, we’ve now reached prices that open higher end sports cars at this point. Middle class is definitely shrinking, but I'm fairly sure we've also got more millionaires/billionaires than every before, too. There's no shortage of disgusting rich people to buy this poo poo. And plenty of upper middle class Lifestyle Creep folks, too.
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Franco Caution posted:I'm convinced there is this whole hidden demographic behind the scenes that keeps to themselves but makes enough to buy poo poo like this. I’m willing to bet it’s the same class of people like dentists who buy Porsches, none of us know who they are but they’re 80% of Porsches costumers Like I’m thinking of saving up for my first EV (which will probably be something like an Ioniq 5 N) but then I read somewhere that it will cost over 60,000 dollars which makes it double the price of any other combustion performance hot hatch like the Kona N, just completely outside the affordable level for me. So it looks like I will absolutely go for a combustion car for another five six years until electric finally becomes sane prices
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...and MOST of these dipshits only care about the 0-60 of the giant EV's (or EV's period)
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That hummer is $30k cheaper than a Model X Plaid, right? It even undercuts the basest model X you can buy by a good amount, and I see model Xes all over.
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