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I think the impact of the Aho offer is that team's aren't screwing around anymore with bridge contracts for young stars. Guys like Fox, Heiskanen and Makar have been getting paid as RFAs after their ELC ends. I don't think anyone is really terribly aggrieved if you want to give up a 1st and 3rd to overpay for one year of a bottom 6 forward.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:12
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Simplex posted:I don't think anyone is really terribly aggrieved if you want to give up a 1st and 3rd to overpay for one year of a bottom 6 forward. If a team were to use those compensatory picks to trade for Christian Dvorak they would be aggrieved as hell though
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Jul 18, 2022 22:33
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Sakic didn't like doing bridge contracts anyway, MacKinnon and Girard both got 7 years after their ELC, Rantanen 6 years after his ELC. Makar was never going to get a bridge deal.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:34
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I mean, people have been calling the bridge deal dead since Rick Nash, not to mention Draisaitl (which was a big deal when he signed it even though it looks good in hindsight) then Eichel, then Matthews etc. The thing about the Aho deal is that it wasn’t an overpay, it was an attempt to get a player at a reasonable price hoping that a cash-strapped franchise would be scared off by signing bonuses and front-loading. And of course it didn’t work because billionaires aren’t ever as poor as they claim to be and also they’re so egotistical they’d never let themselves be publicly bullied like that.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:36
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Like the only owner you could reasonably rake over the coals with a $5M signing bonus is dead now, but if another team had tried to gotcha Melnyk with an offer sheet he would have just defrauded another casino or something instead of not matching.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:41
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Koopa Kid posted:I mean, people have been calling the bridge deal dead since Rick Nash, not to mention Draisaitl (which was a big deal when he signed it even though it looks good in hindsight) then Eichel, then Matthews etc. Also, the Aho deal was a dumb way to try and get a guy. Signing a guy to a reasonable long term deal in AAV, even if it is heavily bonused is going to get matched 10/10 times. If you want to really get a star RFA you have to try and gently caress around like the Kotkaniemi deal and even then, only if the guy really wants to leave. Overpay on a one year deal, but with a handshake deal for an extension. The original team is hosed because they'd either have to continue paying the overpay deal as a QO every year or they'd have to let him go as a UFA. If the Habs had matched, they'd basically have been locked into a $6.1x4 deal or he walks for free. Meanwhile, the Canes probably knew what they were going to get long term. Jury's out on whether he's worth the effort or money, but at least there was a plan to get the guy that didn't rely on the original team being cheap.
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Jul 18, 2022 23:00
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https://twitter.com/nhlflames/status/1549165183766917121?s=21&t=FLDUW22ONKkA8O0dBlCqyQ Flames having themselves a chill summer so far
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Jul 19, 2022 01:09
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@TKACHUKycheese_ is gettin that cheese
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Jul 19, 2022 01:12
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He's gonna have some cool seasons putting up 20 goals and 30 assists while being paid McDavid money.
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Jul 19, 2022 01:14
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The Dirty Burger posted:https://twitter.com/nhlflames/status/1549165183766917121?s=21&t=FLDUW22ONKkA8O0dBlCqyQ Lmao this owns
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Jul 19, 2022 02:05
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Doesn't the structure of his last contract mean they already made a qualifying offer of $9m+ or does it go off the AAV?
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Jul 19, 2022 02:06
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congrats to Flames fans on getting to enjoy one battle of alberta before all the good players decided they'd rather play anywhere else in the league
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Jul 19, 2022 02:08
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I appreciate the Flames giving me a distraction from the Leafs goaltending
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Jul 19, 2022 02:16
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My gawd, we're just going to scratch out Gaudreau's name on the contract.
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Jul 19, 2022 02:19
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Maybe he should go home to Arizona, and get ready for Matthews to get there in a couple years. They'll have their big new arena ready, dozens of prospects, and two hometown boys leading the charge. Gives Calgary room to sign Kadri to $14x8
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Powershift posted:Maybe he should go home to Arizona, and get ready for Matthews to get there in a couple years. Tkachuk’s from STL? e: Wikipedia-listed birthplace aside lmao @ the concept of Tkachuk going to the Yotes over Blues Kupo! fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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Jul 19, 2022 02:50
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I am so excited for 64 point seasons at 11.75 million per for one Matthew Tkachuk
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Jul 19, 2022 02:54
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Don't forget him wearing the C and helming the most toxic locker room outside of wherever Paul Maurice is coaching!
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Jul 19, 2022 02:56
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Don't worry, Darryl Sutter, general manager, will fix this
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Jul 19, 2022 02:58
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Hirez posted:gotta collect em all If you collect enough of them, there will be a shortage and the price of each one they flip away grows! Or something.
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Jul 19, 2022 03:01
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The thing with offer sheets is the player still needs to sign them. It is rumored that they're offered much more often than they're signed, and it seems like players only go for them when there's a huge difference between what they're being offered by their team and another team, and the other team is also going to front-load it with signing bonuses just to increase the benefit to the player. I think most teams and players are generally a bit closer and it's rare that a team is lowballing a player that another team's GM is willing to stake their job on giving up draft picks and a massive financial commitment. I don't know what the Hurricanes were thinking when *not* offering a 21-year-old center who put up 83 points a huge deal, though.
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Kupo! posted:Tkachuk’s from STL? Tkachuk was born in Arizona while his dad played there but grew up in St. Louis after Keith got traded to the Blues. He was friends with Jayson Tatum in highschool!
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Also, as I will keep complaining about , Blues fans will not shut the gently caress up that Matthew Tkachuk will eventually play for St. Louis because he is from here and they keep clamoring to trade Tarasenko or whomever to get him now.
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Jul 19, 2022 13:00
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it is extremely cool to be the laughing stock of the league
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Eric the Mauve posted:Don't forget him wearing the C and helming the most toxic locker room outside of wherever Paul Maurice is coaching! RIP Fancy Cats
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Jul 19, 2022 13:26
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mennoknight posted:it is extremely cool to be the laughing stock of the league You're a Flyers fan now?
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Gonna be funny when Tkachuk is traded for Buchnevich and Justin Faulk
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https://twitter.com/ken_icehockey/status/1549394147580297218 well this is awesome
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https://twitter.com/itsmarkmedley/status/1549370897345150979?s=21&t=luxFkI51bcvQVAg0ILEe8Q Little reminder to Canadians to keep your children far away from major junior and really any high-level organized hockey, it’s just exorbitant fees to keep poor kids out that line lawyers’ pockets and enable psychos everywhere
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Jul 19, 2022 15:11
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just good 'ol boys and she wanted it etc etc
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Jul 19, 2022 15:37
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Koopa Kid posted:Little reminder to Canadians to keep your children far away from major junior and really any high-level organized hockey, it’s just exorbitant fees to keep poor kids out that line lawyers’ pockets and enable psychos everywhere This but for any high level sport development program It's nothing but *sexual predators all the way down
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Jul 19, 2022 15:51
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Apologies for linking to Barstool, but: https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/1549397400112054274
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Koopa Kid posted:https://twitter.com/itsmarkmedley/status/1549370897345150979?s=21&t=luxFkI51bcvQVAg0ILEe8Q Don't worry, Hockey Canada and the players lawyers are doing their best to make sure that the woman is properly tarred and feathered. https://twitter.com/robyndoolittle/status/1549374778116653069
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Jul 19, 2022 16:02
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Yeah they've probably got another multimillion dollar tar and feathering fund. Contract Hockey Canada... and the Blackhawks.
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Also preemptively the Blues cause its almost certain Thomas and Kyrou were part of this.
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Jul 19, 2022 16:11
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I think Dube was on the team as well and with the offseason the Flames are having...
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CBJSprague24 posted:Apologies for linking to Barstool, but: The way he said it CBJ were the life-raft that saved him from the Devils.
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Misanthrope posted:I think Dube was on the team as well and with the offseason the Flames are having... And Batherson and Formenton on the Sens. e: Also, the players' lawyers providing texts showing a player pressuring the complainant to drop the criminal charges isn't necessarily the exonerative bombshell that they appear to think it is? bub spank fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jul 19, 2022 |
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Don't worry, Hockey Canada and the players lawyers are doing their best to make sure that the woman is properly tarred and feathered. Taking a video of somebody saying they consented to everything and that she is sober seems like a totally normal thing to do by somebody with a clear conscience
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