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Bob A Feet posted:Im about to headed to a large city in Texas for indoc. Im going to try my best to not be the stereotypical military guy in my new hire class but guys it’s gonna be pretty hard. I still have a goofy haircut and it’s impossible to not call people in authority positions sir or ma’am. Pray for me. Its not a mission, its an airplane full of people that probably dont need to be going where they're going. People will love the stories about how you got super drunk and lost your pants in a foreign country but not why the F16, A10 or C130 is the best airplane in all of christendom. Acknowledge the fact that the 29 year old RJ guy in your class probably knows way more about the job youre about to start than you do and might have some excellent insight into the right mindset to adopt now that you're not saluting your way through the day. Welcome aboard! edit: sorry if that comes off harsh. Been flying with some real extra ex military folks lately and its affecting my attitude. You're already one of the good ones if youre on this board so no offense. Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Arson Daily posted:. Acknowledge the fact that the 29 year old RJ guy in your class probably knows way more about the job youre about to start than you do Wasn’t Bob A Feet the one that was telling the stories about flying a T-6 at M0.5 above FL300? I guess that just meant they were overqualified for a CRJ?
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Arson Daily posted:Its not a mission, its an airplane full of people that probably dont need to be going where they're going. People will love the stories about how you got super drunk and lost your pants in a foreign country but not why the F16, A10 or C130 is the best airplane in all of christendom. Acknowledge the fact that the 29 year old RJ guy in your class probably knows way more about the job youre about to start than you do and might have some excellent insight into the right mindset to adopt now that you're not saluting your way through the day. I think Bob a Feet is ex-Ospreys, so I bet he could get a good chuckle out of a deadpanned "what does THIS button do?!" while pointing at anything on the pressurization panel.
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Jul 13, 2022 02:36
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I have been that high in a T-6, but not that fast! But I completely understand what you are saying. I have zero idea how to operate in the 121 world and I can’t wait to take the first opportunity to shut my mouth and listen. I’ve also never flown a jet aircraft, or something this large. Again, can’t wait to learn. Edit: yes, former Osprey pilot. I’ve heard some say the 737 is loud and uncomfortable upfront. Between the Texan and the Osprey, I’ve been training my entire career for this! 
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e.pilot posted:lol what military people are you working with One of the students in my A&P school was also former military using his benefits to get free education while being homeless. Overall he was a cool and chill guy, used to fix and/or break tanks. Bought a Cessna 170 while a student, possibly contributing to the homeless issue, but I attribute that to young and full of dreams rather than service connected. I guess I'm saying our armed forces are a land of contrasts.
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An airliner rolls out of the factory and it gets weighed as a whole, correct? Is it accurate up to a pound? And will two planes of the same factory weigh the exact same amount?
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Vahakyla posted:An airliner rolls out of the factory and it gets weighed as a whole, correct? Is it accurate up to a pound? And will two planes of the same factory weigh the exact same amount? They do weight and balance for every single plane they make. I worked with the team that did it when I was a Bombardier employee. No one plane is made exactly the same. There’s subtle engineering differences with every tail. Often we do stuff like a Y-Mod which is an on the fly modification signed off by engineering and the delegated approval person from transport Canada (Canadian FAA). Basically someone picks up on a defect in production and some sort of ersatz solution is created until the engineering is standardized. If you add or remove anything to an aircraft the weight and balance team will be doing their bit for the corresponding paperwork and engineering authority that “controls” that installation. Yes it’s super accurate and there’s a tree of documentation that tells you what everything weighs right down to individual component parts like the shipset headsets or an aluminium toilet paper spindle. EDIT: I forgot to mention there will be weight impacts from all the customization options the airlines typically take. Some people want more closet space, extra emergency equipment, thicker leather, soft movable class dividers vs hard dividers, different seat counts, aft lav vs no aft lav, lights for the airline emblem on the tail or not etc. There’s hundreds if not thousands of things that can be added, removed mixed and matched on the plane so none of them really have the same weight. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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That's my job! Kraftwerk already covered it really well. For some other detail, we weigh them when as completely built as possible after they've been painted. There are a lot of smallish items that sometimes are missing that we have weights for and add back in. I spend most of my time creating the inventory list noting or updating most of the parts added to a basic aircraft build, their weight and their arm (around 400 items for my planes). We derive 3 weights. The scale weight, noting everything that should or shouldn't be there, the Basic Empty Weight (BEW) which is all the customer's stuff in place as it should be (added to the scale weight if it was missing) and items not part of the build that were in at the weigh (gear locks, production related emergency equipment, etc.) deducted, and Manufacturer Empty Weight (MEW) which is most of the customer specific stuff deducted from scale weight as well as those non-build items. A customer will have a specific LOPA (Layout Of Passenger Accommodations) that details the number of seats, classes, galleys, closets, curtains, lavs, emergency equipment, and what not. Then when weighed planes in that LOPA block should be quite similar in BEW and MEW. The MEW is pretty consistent among among larger blocks of planes and LOPAs so it helps to track that the general base build of the plane is within the weight range promised by the manufacturer. Then the customer gets their own BEW range for all the things they add in.The customer then gets the scale weight, BEW and MEW calculations along with that parts list as part of their weight and balance manual specifically for that plane. Flight load planning is based off the BEW The bigger the plane the more variation you'll see due to difference in the build as well as if all the fluids/oils were serviced or not and if it had never been fueled or instead sumped to a trapped fuel condition. Sometimes actual weights of items are included in the weight calculations, like for each seat, galley, food cart/container/oven, life vests, and other emergency equipment for the first airplane in a LOPA. Those values are just copied on to the next plane unless they change to a new part. If a plane is going to fly before being painted and weighed we'll verify what all is installed or missing and use the BEW of a previous airplane in the same LOPA . We closely track the weight and CG range of each plane and when a one is noticeably outside of that range it gets extra scrutinized or possibly even reweighed if something significant was missing or an error made during the weigh process (which is quite rare). We do track by 10ths of a pound and by 10ths of an inch for the CG. I have had two planes in the same LOPA end up with the same weights and CG values, which is quite satisfying. This is pretty similar to our process for weighing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1bESk8tvk AzureSkys fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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Dude! Do we know eachother? I used to be in customer engineering. I made LOPAs on a regular basis. Though mine were just proposal lopas as opposed to the actual engineering drawings that would come later.
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Possibly! Did you do that in the Puget Sound region? I've primarily been around the weights, paint and flightline maintenance groups in the 737 programs from the last decade or so in Seattle/Renton. On a more sobering side regarding W & B, I weighed the Lion Air MAX that crashed and did the inventory walk-through prior to weigh for the Ethiopian one. First hearing that they nose dived made us dig into our paperwork to see if anything was out of ordinary with the CGs (which were normal) before learning about the MCAS situation.
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AzureSkys posted:Possibly! Did you do that in the Puget Sound region? I've primarily been around the weights, paint and flightline maintenance groups in the 737 programs from the last decade or so in Seattle/Renton. Our methodologies are probably similar due to Boeing's influence on Bombardier and the Dash 8 in the 1990s. But no, I was in Toronto with Bombardier as opposed to Boeing.
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Kraftwerk posted:Our methodologies are probably similar due to Boeing's influence on Bombardier and the Dash 8 in the 1990s. But no, I was in Toronto with Bombardier as opposed to Boeing. So the CR2 was all your fault, then.
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So my brother is a weapons officer or whatever on P-8. It’s pretty much guaranteed he’s going airline post service right? Idk how that skill set works anywhere else.
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After about year of taking hiatus from here and everything else, I’m back with a vengeance and a B757/67 type rating, if anyone is still bothering to update the OP. While I’m waiting for IOE I’m going to continue growing my training beard and occasionally be annoying here and on discord…
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Warbird posted:So my brother is a weapons officer or whatever on P-8. It’s pretty much guaranteed he’s going airline post service right? Idk how that skill set works anywhere else. Is he a 737 rated pilot or not? I have to qualify because “weapons officer or whatever” includes NFOs but they won’t leave military service with an ATP.
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Butt Reactor posted:After about year of taking hiatus from here and everything else, I’m back with a vengeance and a B757/67 type rating, if anyone is still bothering to update the OP. While I’m waiting for IOE I’m going to continue growing my training beard and occasionally be annoying here and on discord… Welcome back!
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hobbesmaster posted:Is he a 737 rated pilot or not? Iirc he’s trained/rated but I can’t say that with certainty.
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You can still at least get a civilian type rating through the Navy- I did an IPC for a guy with a Lockheed Electra type awhile back because he flew the P-3.
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hobbesmaster posted:Is he a 737 rated pilot or not? Yeah, I'm not super savvy on P-8 crew positions, but "weapons officer" sounds a lot like an NFO qualification, and if he's an NFO that doesn't translate to any applicable skills in the airline world. He could be a Weapons and Tactics Instructor (WTI) and a pilot, but the WTI qualification is incidental compared to the "can fly a 737" qualification inherent in being a P-8 pilot.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:He could be a Weapons and Tactics Instructor (WTI) and a pilot, but the WTI qualification is incidental compared to the "can fly a 737" qualification inherent in being a P-8 pilot. The response back when I asked was “Yeah, if I was a pilot.” so there ya go.
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What’s the go to logbook software? I’m updating my atlas profile and now they want an electronic logbook file when until now I’ve just had a big old binder of paper logs. I’m due to start working on a transfer to digital anyways, the longer I wait the more it’s gonna sting.
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Rolo posted:What’s the go to logbook software? I’m updating my atlas profile and now they want an electronic logbook file when until now I’ve just had a big old binder of paper logs. I’m due to start working on a transfer to digital anyways, the longer I wait the more it’s gonna sting. I’ve been using https://myflightbook.com for the past several years. It’s free and does the trick but I’m not on the professional side of things. It’s great for GA though. I’ve heard from several instructors recently that they’re just using ForeFlight.
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I also use myflightbook on the 121 side. The developer is very helpful and responsive if you're having trouble with anything, and he's continuously adding features as people ask for them. It's no entirely geared towards the professional side of things, so if that's what you're looking for then give logtenpro a look. I never used it due to the cost and I was already happy with MFB, but that seems to be the standard. MFB can transfer from your schedule but at my last company I have to transfer my schedule to a CSV file, make a couple changes in the data fields, then upload to MFB. I did a month at a time and it took 5min tops for the bulk editing.
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I'm in the process of transferring my paper logs to the logbook in Foreflight. Seems ok? Easy to export to other formats from there too.
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I’ve been using my flight book since I had double digit hours, now I fly around the world and am getting close to 4000, its great.
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MyFlightbook looks sick, definitely going to use it while gearing up for my PPL. No need to pay for ForeFlight until I'm ready to use those power user functions methinks.
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I’m trying MyFlightBook. Figure if I hate it after my first 100 or so entries I’ll switch to something paid. I just hate the idea of something so important being a subscription.
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Google Docs and/or Excel. You never have to worry about "does the electronic logbook track X, or generate report Y?" because you can just Excel-wizard your way to any figure you want, you're not tied to a subscription and if you use Google Docs with an Excel backup, at least the data is in a very common and well-supported format. Like, you want to figure how much time you spent as PIC in one of two specific different planes, at night? You could do that with a simple formula! And if you need to track something new specific to your circumstances, then just add a column!
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"Man, I'm gonna get PAID every hour flown at this job!" https://twitter.com/mic/status/1549152034393292805 https://twitter.com/CelebJets/status/1547043159422664704 (Logbook is an endless sea of .1 and .2 entries) Boy, I hope these are just repositioning flights the media are otherwise clueless to the concept of, because yeesh, if not.
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Socal traffic sucks man.
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CBJSprague24 posted:
Countdown to the announcement of Kardashian investment in some unheard of electric aircraft startup.
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Beef Of Ages posted:Countdown to the announcement of Kardashian investment in some unheard of electric aircraft startup. I mean planes now have like Halo and Garmin Autoland and whatever the Cirrus and Honda jets have that will get you on the ground if your pilot passes out, so the idea of an extremely short-haul electric plane that can fly itself and beat LA or wherever traffic would be pretty cool. I mean you know it takes like a thousand years for the FAA to approve anything but that's overall a good thing.
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great idea, you'll just have to dodge all the LAPD choppers that plague the skies of Los Angeles
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I’m the guy in the Pacer dodging LAPD choppers (we talk on freq!). We’ve actually got two electric pipistrels and charging stations at some of the airports here. C,mon Kim, fly the electric 152 knockoff.
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Rolo posted:I’m trying MyFlightBook. Figure if I hate it after my first 100 or so entries I’ll switch to something paid. I just hate the idea of something so important being a subscription. if you donate enough to MFB you can get automatic backups to google drive in xls or csv format, I think it’s $25/yr
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e.pilot posted:if you donate enough to MFB you can get automatic backups to google drive in xls or csv format, I think it’s $25/yr I’ll jump on that. I’m getting in the swing of it and it’s checking all my boxes. I’ve done 80 out of like 1200 flights. Almost there!
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Just get a motorcycle and enforce proper car behavior around filtering motorcyclists. You can zip around town in no time, if you make sure no one intentionally blocks your way or makes it excessively risky (like i imagine it currently is in most places in the USA)
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Most US states made filtering illegal and several drivers here in the south will willingly cause a dangerous situation before they let someone on a bike pass them.
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Filtering is legal in California, like the only state or so. That does not make me want to do it more than I do on my bicycle at intersections
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