[Biosphere Collapse] 420 days of blazin' it

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Unless: Jul 24, 2005; I art

Perry Mason Jar posted:

"Leftist infighting" is the proper Marxist principle of ruthless critique you peabrain. Arendt washed her Nazi beau's philosophical crimes by, too, blaming working class

lol @ thinking the petit-bourgeoisie at the heart of the imperial core radicalizing towards patriarchy and, soon, ecofascism, as �working class�

the LF vs cspam thread to complain about how the new forum doesn�t have the proper maoist third-worldist critique is that way

anyways, now that we�re all stuck inside to survive wet bulb temps, anyone else in the thread read this yet. I thought it was pretty good for being MIT lib-poo poo

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:43

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Oglethorpe: Aug 8, 2005

Armadillo Tank posted:

As per my post in Doomsday Econ: What is the sun but the landlord of the earth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dscfeQOMuGw

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:44

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

What have you been reading emt3? This doesn't derive from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Gramsci. Not Brecht or Benjamin, not even Barthes or Baudrillard? Please don't let Zizek and Frankfurt twist you into idiocy!

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:45

Armadillo Tank: Mar 26, 2010

Microplastics posted:

The models are looking absolutely horrific

why is this image doubled?

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:46

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Unless posted:

lol @ thinking the petit-bourgeoisie at the heart of the imperial core radicalizing towards patriarchy and, soon, ecofascism, as �working class�

Neck-breakingly fast on this one. Scratch a liberal indeed

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:46

Armadillo Tank: Mar 26, 2010

Zodium posted:

i've seen it many times. i've almost been there, most memorably back in my libertarian days when I reasoned my way to Rothbardian child markets and thankfully had the good sense to go "woah, stop the loving presses, we gotta backtrack." EmTme3 took a wrong turn down an idealism track, and ended up where all such tracks must. here is the final pm they sent me, after I told them they needed therapy, not theory:

the last stop on the idealism train is always "everything is permitted, including pedophilia," but once you get seriously locked into an idealist track, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. i hope my dude or dudette gets the help they need, which we cannot provide as posters on the something awful dot com forums.

how is not exploiting the exploitable for gain not part of theory???

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:48

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Look how racist and disgusting you are. The White Man is not even the majority population of the US!

The prisoners and murdered black men and immigrant workers and LGBTQ service workers and Native American laborers are petit-bourgeois? Something is wrong with you.

"The German might coming down on the petit-bourgeois Jews was a triumph of Leftism" you are disgusting

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:49

Shifty Nipples: Apr 8, 2007

Oglethorpe posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dscfeQOMuGw

if they did that lightbulb suit thing now it would be LEDs powered by a Li-ion/LiPo battery pack :aaaaa:

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 16:53 on Jul 20, 2022

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:51

Rectal Death Adept: Jun 20, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

RC Cola posted:

Is this implying covid and climate change don't exist?

Yeah. I'm noticing a dramatic uptick in the denial and cope recently due to the obvious and extreme degradation we are seeing in the climate and weather patterns.

The people that need to believe those things are getting more desperate.

2 independent people have told me to my face that the london fires were started by eco terrorists to make us all afraid of climate change. It's a simple train of thought and if you want to believe it it works well enough for now.

Same as the people who claimed livestock dying in heatwaves in the US was some kind of leftist bug eater conspiracy to rob red blooded americans of their steak.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 16:52

Unless: Jul 24, 2005; I art

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Look how racist and disgusting you are. The White Man is not even the majority population of the US!

The prisoners and murdered black men and immigrant workers and LGBTQ service workers and Native American laborers are petit-bourgeois? Something is wrong with you.

"The German might coming down on the petit-bourgeois Jews was a triumph of Leftism" you are disgusting

I have no idea how you could extrapolate what I�m writing about the white middle-class radicalizing toward patriarchy and ecofascism, the petit-bourgeois, as the historically oppressed and marginalized people you mentioned.

Whitey is still the dominant monoculture in this demon cracker nation, and we�d be foolish not to plan for his further insane lashing-outs as material conditions degrade with climate change.

Drink some water, you�re melting down.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:11

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

the epistemic collapse is too much for even the biosphere collapse thread to bear.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:12

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Unless posted:

I have no idea how you could extrapolate what I�m writing about the white middle-class radicalizing toward patriarchy and ecofascism, the petit-bourgeois, as the historically oppressed and marginalized people you mentioned.

Whitey is still the dominant monoculture in this demon cracker nation, and we�d be foolish not to plan for his further insane lashing-outs as material conditions degrade with climate change.

Drink some water, you�re melting down.

I said working class and you erased the entirety of the working class! You replaced them with White "middle class" as though they were interchangeable categories but you're being coy now pretending some other conversation happened.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:16

RC Cola: Aug 1, 2011; Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Rectal Death Adept posted:

Yeah. I'm noticing a dramatic uptick in the denial and cope recently due to the obvious and extreme degradation we are seeing in the climate and weather patterns.

The people that need to believe those things are getting more desperate.

2 independent people have told me to my face that the london fires were started by eco terrorists to make us all afraid of climate change. It's a simple train of thought and if you want to believe it it works well enough for now.

Same as the people who claimed livestock dying in heatwaves in the US was some kind of leftist bug eater conspiracy to rob red blooded americans of their steak.

oh right people are very dumb and scared

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:19

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

working to destroy Capital and capitalism in any way you can regardless of the class you belong to is revolutionary, and not doing that is cringe. just imo

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:19

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

skating right past the intensely stupid drama

https://twitter.com/wolfgangcramer/status/1549766855979667458?s=20&t=KacGQdcIAS1P4x5n7PXCiw

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:31

Rectal Death Adept: Jun 20, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

I like it

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:41

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

FacelessVoid posted:

https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2022/07/19/global-extinction-threat-may-be-higher-previously-thought/7501658254724/

Whelp, see you in 2025 when the number doubles again.

Never mind, looks like scientists are catching onto the pattern.

Here�s the underlying paper: https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/fee.2536

And to compare and contrast with the plankton pre-print, this is a great example of how you do make bold claims with strong science.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:43

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

Mayor Dave posted:

skating right past the intensely stupid drama

https://twitter.com/wolfgangcramer/status/1549766855979667458?s=20&t=KacGQdcIAS1P4x5n7PXCiw

You can get water out of wells, so clearly if you dig rivers down to well depth you'll have infinite water just there for the taking.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:48

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Expert estimates of (a) global biodiversity loss and (b, c) its impacts. (a) Medians of estimates and upper and lower bounds for past biodiversity loss (white circles, lines) and future biodiversity loss by 2100 if current trends continue (rightward gray arrows) or if conservation efforts are increased (leftward gray arrows). Where available, IUCN estimates are shown (red lines). (b) Expert estimates (black) as well as lower (blue) and upper (red) bounds for impacts of three levels of biodiversity loss (jittered on the x-axis). (c) Combining estimates of past biodiversity loss (a) and its impacts (b, linearly interpolated) shows the estimated impacts of past biodiversity loss. Sample sizes show the number of responses, which do not always sum to the total because respondents were not required to answer all questions.

Expert estimates of changes in global biodiversity in terrestrial biomes (left column) and marine realms (right column) since 1500 (top row), by 2100 if current trends continue (middle row), or by 2100 if conservation efforts are intensified (bottom row). Values represent medians across all responses received from experts investigating biodiversity in each terrestrial biome and marine realm and are shown for terrestrial biomes and marine realms with at least ten responses (minimum = 11, median = 35, maximum = 470 responses per biome or realm). See WebFigure 2 for additional marine and freshwater habitats.

(a) Expert rankings of drivers of biodiversity loss, (b) their synergistic interactions, and (c) top-ranked drivers by ecosystem type and taxa. (a) Low numbers correspond to large impacts on biodiversity. Experts indicated biodiversity loss is driven primarily by changes in land use and sea use resulting from production and consumption patterns and human population growth. (b) Dark colors indicate that many experts expected the pair of drivers to synergistically reduce biodiversity to a greater degree than the sum of their individual effects. See WebTable 4 for tests of significant differences in rankings and WebFigures 5 and 6 for driver rankings by habitat.

Demographic and geographic groups of experts provided (a) different estimates of biodiversity loss and its impacts, (b) similar rankings of drivers, and (c) different recommended top priorities for conservation budgets. Symbols, lines, and colors in (a) and (b) match those in Figure 1 and Figure 3, respectively. Genders were self-identified. NCP = nature�s contributions to people. See WebTable 2 for other genders with small sample sizes. For gross domestic product (GDP) comparisons, countries were grouped into high-income countries or all other income groups, following the World Bank�s classification for 2020. For career stage, the number of years of related work post-PhD is provided.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 17:54

Lost Time: Sep 28, 2012; All necessities, provided. All anxieties, tranquilized. All boredom, amused.

https://twitter.com/Breliloquy/status/1549526511836856323 lol lmao

And do remember to replace all your plastic straws with metal or paper, you psychopaths. We're all in this together!

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:04

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

apparently when she gets on her jet, there's a little carpet with KYLIE on it that she steps on first lol

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:08

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

actionjackson posted:

apparently when she gets on her jet, there's a little carpet with KYLIE on it that she steps on first lol

we should lay it in front of the guillotine for her so she feels more welcome

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:10

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Lost Time posted:

https://twitter.com/Breliloquy/status/1549526511836856323 lol lmao

And do remember to replace all your plastic straws with metal or paper, you psychopaths. We're all in this together!

lol literally had someone tell me i was the problem with the planet today because i said i was going to keep buying plastic straws for personal household use and throwing them in my garbage

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:10

Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

Best response is to ask them what they intend to do about it

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:11

Ferdinand Bardamu: Apr 30, 2013

sin city outdoors Lake Need update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azy88IiVqU

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:24

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Bathtub Cheese posted:

The "nothing is true, all is permitted" crowd seems to relish the fact that the collapse of the biosphere will coincide with a loss of society's already woefully limited capacity to inhibit predatory behavior. I wonder what that's all about, or what might make them different from an Atomwaffen Division edgelord or groyper.

One of these groups might be more likely than the other to actually act on their baser instincts, but it seems hard to predict

If you have daughters, arm them well IMO.

New Model Army posted:

There's a witch hunt coming, screaming out on it's rebirth
There's a crusade coming, Hellfires back here on earth
See the light in their eyes shine, listen to their words like swords
The Christian militia is marching now

that's from 1983, lol. I was 2 years old :rubby:

WaryWarren posted:

sin city outdoors Lake Need update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azy88IiVqU

alarmist wording. surely there were times as it was being filled when the water level was lower than it is now

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:26

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

the plastic straws thing - I don't remember if it was in this thread or elsewhere, but I seem to remember all of the figures about how many tons of plastic in straws make their way into the oceans coming from like a high schooler's science fair project or something similar? Did I dream this?

not that we shouldn't get rid of plastic straws anyway, but in retrospect it seems like the perfect non-solution to climate change: slightly alter one practice to generate less waste while leaving all of the waste that surrounds that one practice totally unexamined.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:26

lobotomy molo: May 7, 2007; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

lrk3r posted:

gently caress it, i'll burn another account down. it's just money.

thanks man. i just kinda barged in and saw someone contradicting my line (and slandering rime, who i like), tried to post a correction. turns out it was the single dumbest worst hill to die on maybe ever.

the ruthless critical analysis of every existing thing (starting and ending with oneself) means exactly that.

technically, the reason for the perma wasn't that post. i slammed my site at the mods directly, explained what i was doing, and told them to perma me if they don't want me around. they poked around on it for a bit, and indeed - i am too much of a wackadoodle doomer even for the biosphere collapse thread. it would be in everyone's interests if i never return!

i have not and will never voluntarily watch an anime.

awwww yeah now we're getting the good stuff. i'm honored to made the all time top worst posts list! in the meantime, we are literally, factually, actually enjoying a planet to death. with this undeniable fact in mind, surely you can agree: there is something extremely hosed up about our current mode(s) of enjoyment. an constructive question arises - what kinds of enjoyment do not contribute to omnicide? can we imagine a world where we enjoy repairing our shared planet, rather than destroying it?

that's the context that i was writing in. maybe you should update yours for the post-holocene.

and de sade was many things, but i mentioned him specifically because he was among the first to submit his desire/enjoyment loop to something like an empirical practice. what he discovered was this: enjoyment is an amoral mechanism, and if you follow it to the end, you can enjoy anything. this is not an argument for or against the morality of any of those things, it is an explanation for why the enjoyment of said things exists in the first place.

which leads me back to zode. how ya doin big guy?

if you'd read anything on my site, you'd know that i'm a radical materialist, not an idealist. interestingly enough, when you push materialism all the way to the end, you don't get 'everything is permitted', you get this:

nothing is permitted.

de sade was de sade so that we could learn from his example without becoming him. the lesson is this: because enjoyment has no moral content, when pushed to its end, the pursuit of enjoyment turns us into monsters. turns out, he was right; and now we're a sapient extinction event.

the only ethical stance then is to try to escape enjoyment altogether, which leads us to my prime ethical directive (insofar as we want to attempt to be revolutionary subjects):

this is an ethical suspension of morality, but it goes to the militant discipline of 'nothing is permitted' rather than the hedonistic cliff of 'everything is permitted'. this is a figure of a totally uncompromising celibate warrior monk, not jeffrey loving epstein.

so then: insofar as we are serious about being revolutionary subjects in the 21c (lol), it is our duty to stop both ourselves and others from enjoying a mass extinction event. this is the position i'm arguing from; and i'll admit - i really hadn't considered or thought about the ramifications when applied to sexual deviants when i made that post.

so the choice either an unpricipled idealist 'let people enjoy', or a principled materialist 'all enjoyment is suspect'. in political terms: ecosocialism or extinction.

ya that was prolly me. that was a good post. 'how do you want to die? jerking off in front of the screen that stunted and enslaved you, or striding across the wasteland with your comrades, filled with red purpose?' something like that.

no conflation, just observing the same effect. i advance an amoral ethical line into enemy territory, and get demonized even tho i'm explicitly not supporting or justifying, just explaining and analyzing.

yeah you're getting it. i was saying what i've elucidated here: all enjoyment is hosed up. especially here of all places. our successors (if there are any) are going to be the ones who succesfully learned how to not-enjoy enjoying and enjoy not-enjoying.

motherfucker i'm a truth seeker attempting to advance a systematic 21c historical truth process into the world. i take truth very seriously. and again - insofar as we are ethical materialists, nothing is permitted.

what i said was that anything can be enjoyed. and that in lieue of stopping people enjoying a planet to death, the alternative is to let people enjoy. and that got interpretted as me tangentially defending anime kid torture porn, or something.

i'm glad i'm making you guys think.

thanks for not throwing me under the bus man. i'm assuming i'm gonna get another insta-perma for this, so i'm gonna take a break from SA, maybe go find a therapist who knows how to treat 'addicted to line struggle on the internet'. i'll keep throwing stuff up on the site for anybody who's interested, and i'm on twitter too.

you guys are all still ridiculous naive little libs with the morality of 19c victorian housewives, but i'll miss you anyways.

pertinent thread content:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lClBMhzqwCs

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# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:31

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Perry Mason Jar posted:

[Extremely Zizekishly] Taking in a Monet watercolor is actually NOT ALLOWED by materialism and is an idealist, bourgeois perversion shniff

tihis

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:45

His Purple Majesty: Dec 12, 2008

We're utterly doomed lol

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1549768004233314306?t=f8IBZ7O-PeUlT-CzaocEGw&s=19

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:47

LionArcher: Mar 29, 2010

https://twitter.com/ExtinctionR/status/1549553288655536128?s=20&t=V656OG1Sbo8EhkVKvZw4fQ

Good morning! just did two hours of yard work before it hit 95, which it is now.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:53

Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

Good for ER trying to provoke their followers into action after *checks notes* persuading them to turn their hand print over to the police in advance

# ? Jul 20, 2022 18:56

sirtommygunn: Mar 7, 2013

His Purple Majesty posted:

We're utterly doomed lol

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1549768004233314306?t=f8IBZ7O-PeUlT-CzaocEGw&s=19

holy gently caress i got so angry at "I don't know whats happened recently to make all you meteorologists so fatalistic" i literally loving screamed

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:09

sirtommygunn: Mar 7, 2013

What could it loving be, I wonder!? Why would every single weather expert on the god drat planet suddenly start acting like things are bad? Bunch of whiners raining on my parade, just be happy we get some nice sunshine this week for god's sake! Surely, SURELY it has been this bad before, and we are not facing an unprecedented crisis? Tell me we'll be ok weather expert man, tell us we'll all be ok. Surely if things weren't ok I would have done something about it, so please just tell me its alright.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:14

LionArcher: Mar 29, 2010

Harold Fjord posted:

Good for ER trying to provoke their followers into action after *checks notes* persuading them to turn their hand print over to the police in advance

They can have one good suggestion and you take that, and ignore this poo poo like setting yourself up to be easily tracked. (Plus side, give this a few more years, and if you wait just long enough you can do crimes and the state will be collapsing so badly they won't catch you. Probably.) Hypothetically I mean of course

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:16

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

His Purple Majesty posted:

We're utterly doomed lol

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1549768004233314306?t=f8IBZ7O-PeUlT-CzaocEGw&s=19

lmfao

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:24

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

somebody buy this man an account

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:24

RC Cola: Aug 1, 2011; Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

His Purple Majesty posted:

We're utterly doomed lol

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1549768004233314306?t=f8IBZ7O-PeUlT-CzaocEGw&s=19

Came to post this lol lmao

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:31

Lpzie: Nov 20, 2006

Slow News Day posted:

https://twitter.com/jimrossignol/status/1549310199873392640

this is a good idea, taps into the religious hole of humanity. hope post-society embraces it....

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:49

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DesertIslandHermit: Oct 7, 2019; It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

His Purple Majesty posted:

We're utterly doomed lol

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1549768004233314306?t=f8IBZ7O-PeUlT-CzaocEGw&s=19

Movie sucks but so does reality. Makes sense it's parallel.

# ? Jul 20, 2022 19:51

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