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Yeah, the implication was that she was a racist. She just apparently never showed her hand enough for it to be a problem until she was hunting down two brown people at a school.
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After watching all the episodes I will say all the characters are great and the actors do a great job. That being said I did find the structure of the show to be a bit disjointed, as if each episode was almost completely disconnected from each other and peoples reason for action just seem to change from one scene to the next. My example of this would be the Djin attacking the wedding after Kamala said she would help them about 10 minutes earlier in the episode. Overall I thought story wise it just felt like a few different writers going at it with drafts without removing stuff that didn't make sense in the draft before. One last thing, and this is more of a pet peeve, but are Marvel shows seemingly obsessed with not giving characters their costumes until the final episode?
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Madkal posted:One last thing, and this is more of a pet peeve, but are Marvel shows seemingly obsessed with not giving characters their costumes until the final episode? Moon Knight has (one of) his costume(s) in episode 1. But yes that does seem to be a bit of a thing doesn't it?
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TwoPair posted:Moon Knight has (one of) his costume(s) in episode 1. You can also discount FAWS because he doesn't actually become Captain America till the end.
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Really hoping She-Hulk has the scene in the last episode where Jen gets given the special high tech box by Banner and he's like "I think it's time you dressed the part" and there's just a ripped pair of purple cutoffs in there.
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theironjef posted:Really hoping She-Hulk has the scene in the last episode where Jen gets given the special high tech box by Banner and he's like "I think it's time you dressed the part" and there's just a ripped pair of purple cutoffs in there. Weird gift from your cousin...
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I think the government oversight of super hero stuff seems like a mess post Snap and maybe that’s intentional. Maybe the different instances of SWORD and Damage Control and even the Falcon and Winter Soldier stuff with Walker and Countessa are all intended to show a vacuum in the absence of SHIELD that has just lead to a dozen agencies all jockeying for power and mishandling everything. Or it’s a bunch of writers all filling in their own blank for shady government agency. But Fiege seems to have more oversight than to just not care about that so my feeling is that it’s building to something, possibly in Secret Invasion. Maybe a return purpose for SHIELD.
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Bruceski posted:Weird gift from your cousin... Maybe he's a never nude?
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Bruceski posted:Weird gift from your cousin... Alternate joke is just that her outfit, just being purple and grey workout clothes, is presented in one of those high tech super boxes but still has a Lululemon price tag on it.
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Madkal posted:One last thing, and this is more of a pet peeve, but are Marvel shows seemingly obsessed with not giving characters their costumes until the final episode? https://twitter.com/topherflorence/status/1446151707029917697?s=20&t=GVdWXFZPGHyTLCzy2iSd-g
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STAC Goat posted:I think the government oversight of super hero stuff seems like a mess post Snap and maybe that’s intentional. Maybe the different instances of SWORD and Damage Control and even the Falcon and Winter Soldier stuff with Walker and Countessa are all intended to show a vacuum in the absence of SHIELD that has just lead to a dozen agencies all jockeying for power and mishandling everything.
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achillesforever6 posted:Meanwhile the normal CIA still exists in the MCU somehow You say this like IRL there's not a dozen intertwining security agencies with both unique and overlapping jurisdictions.
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as long as there are foreign governments to destabilize the CIA will exist
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site posted:as long as there are governments to destabilize the CIA will exist
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Yeah SHIELD was the improbable thing. One agency competently run with authority and control over anything in their jurisdiction as they determine it. The current state seems closer to reality. A dozen different letter agencies that all kind of seem like they’re doing similar things with shady jurisdiction and incompetent and corrupt management. That could be the new normal. It reflects reality. Just a dysfunctional corrupt political mess. But it could all be building to Fury reemerging to bring SHIELD back or something. Basically a parallel theme to the whole “who are the Avengers now? What happens if we need them?” thing that’s come up a bunch of times in Phase 4.
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Remember when SHIELD apparently had the ability to order a nuclear strike on Manhattan?
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Skwirl posted:Remember when SHIELD apparently had the ability to order a nuclear strike on Manhattan? And they did
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I really wanted to like Ms. Marvel because I enjoy her comics so much but it's really left me cold. Part of it is that they're obviously telling an origin story but it also feels like they've skipped ahead to a second or third season at the same time. We don't really get a baseline established of the adventures she gets up to in New Jersey as a superhero, with her supporting cast of friends before they're dropped and she jets off to Pakistan. Otherwise fine to do! But flying the hero to a totally different place, away from her support structure, meeting other heroes, delving into her family history and all that feels like stuff you do later on.
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But when you don't know if there's going to be a second season, or if you'll be the person to write that second season, and you really want to tell a Partition story, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
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It is darkly hilarious that most (white) Americans only learn about the Tulsa massacre and the Partition from watching super-hero shows. Like, I learned about Tulsa before Watchmen, but only barely and long after I left school, and I knew India and Pakistan were joined as a British colony and split when the Brits left, but no real clue about what that split entailed or that there was a poo poo ton of forced migration.
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When Winter Solider came out that fact that SHIELD was secretly run by Nazis was tougher for people to move past. Nowadays they'll just be like "Yeah make sense, whatever"
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Skwirl posted:It is darkly hilarious that most (white) Americans only learn about the Tulsa massacre and the Partition from watching super-hero shows. Like, I learned about Tulsa before Watchmen, but only barely and long after I left school, and I knew India and Pakistan were joined as a British colony and split when the Brits left, but no real clue about what that split entailed or that there was a poo poo ton of forced migration. Hey man, some of us learned about partition from Trevor Slattery's award winning performance in a Gandhi biopic.
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One of the weirder aspects of Ms. Marvel and the ominous secret government organization run by racists is the scene were white New Jersey Cops stand up to said ominous secret government organization run by racists.
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AngryBooch posted:Hey man, some of us learned about partition from Trevor Slattery's award winning performance in a Gandhi biopic.  ^^^^ people talk about propaganda in the mcu, that was copaganda
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Opopanax posted:When Winter Solider came out that fact that SHIELD was secretly run by Nazis was tougher for people to move past. Nowadays they'll just be like "Yeah make sense, whatever" Anybody who was surprised by that just doesn't know the history of American intelligence agencies.
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Skwirl posted:Remember when SHIELD apparently had the ability to order a nuclear strike on Manhattan? World Security Council.
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Which is apparently not the same thing as the UN security council
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Madkal posted:One of the weirder aspects of Ms. Marvel and the ominous secret government organization run by racists is the scene were white New Jersey Cops stand up to said ominous secret government organization run by racists. I mean they immediately let the DODC goons past them when they advanced on Kamala, so it's not like it was any more than token resistance.
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Skwirl posted:Anybody who was surprised by that just doesn't know the history of American intelligence agencies. The Space Race AKA "who had the better Nazis?"
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Bruceski posted:The Space Race AKA "who had the better Nazis?" NASA exists because we got the the Nazi best at physics.
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live with fruit posted:World Security Council. They’re part of SHIELD, that’s just the name for the oversight committee.
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Skwirl posted:I knew India and Pakistan were joined as a British colony and split when the Brits left, but no real clue about what that split entailed or that there was a poo poo ton of forced migration. I never learned about any of the particulars, but I just assumed that previously being a British colonial holding it was a bloody, horrific shitshow
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I never learned about any of the particulars, but I just assumed that previously being a British colonial holding it was a bloody, horrific shitshow Thanks to the wonderful sport of cricket I know more than I thought I would about India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
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Opopanax posted:When Winter Solider came out that fact that SHIELD was secretly run by Nazis was tougher for people to move past. Nowadays they'll just be like "Yeah make sense, whatever" I remember someone around here saying they hated the movie cause that was such an unrealistic and juvenile concept. Still funny thinking about that to this day.
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site posted:j https://twitter.com/jakeandhispain/status/1547265802017071105
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Madkal posted:Thanks to the wonderful sport of cricket I know more than I thought I would about India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. But do you know what a crumpet is?
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Sgt. Politeness posted:But do you know what a crumpet is? A pancake from the region of Crump?
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Sgt. Politeness posted:But do you know what a crumpet is? Tiny Tina's favorite snack?
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Sgt. Politeness posted:But do you know what a crumpet is? I know you gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket.
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