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Gwyneth Palpate posted:messing with the electric stuff scares me so i don't do it Same, anything more energetic than Power over Ethernet is something I leave to actual electricians. I’m just a dumb computer toucher.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:messing with the electric stuff scares me so i don't do it I can do basic poo poo like change light switches, outlets, or breakers as well as other minor wiring stuff but for a new 220v circuit or anything like that I tend to pay someone else. Or bother my neighbor who is a retired master electrician.
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L0cke17 posted:Selling 2 titans, a super, a dozen caps, and evaccing 15 or so jump freighters only took 4 or 5 days for me. Thank you for your service
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Eve 2022: I need a tap and die and some WD-40
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Eve 2022: I need a tap and die and some WD-40 Will this bring back WiS?
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shortspecialbus posted:I can do basic poo poo like change light switches, outlets, or breakers as well as other minor wiring stuff but for a new 220v circuit or anything like that I tend to pay someone else. Or bother my neighbor who is a retired master electrician. This is where I’m at. Change out a switch to a fancy-pants timer switch? No problem. Use that to add a new outlet so I can power a bidet? God, no.
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PathAsc posted:Will this bring back WiS? If  had included renovating options they should have brought in the HGTV crowd.
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PathAsc posted:Will this bring back WiS? Hopefully not 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:I'm best at carpentry and drywall but I can do anything except hvac and I don't trust myself to do plumbing. The biggest problems are expensive or extremely labor intensive like its hot as gently caress I don't wanna go clean all the insulation out of the attic so I can find the mouse holes. And it's raining pretty much every day so fixing driveway cracks is a nonstarter most days. Piddly poo poo like caulking the shower is just me being lazy I am mostly okay with the piddly poo poo, but the bigger projects I should be supervised for because most of the time I've never had to do it myself. I have apparently leaned in hard to the useless/helpless academic stereotype so generally people don't let me get much further than announcing the problem and my plans to deal with before stepping and keeping me from, idek, nailing myself to a wall or something.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:Hell yeah, I bought a mountain not far from where I grew up lol We live on a mountain* now too, it's great. * more of a big hill in the Blue Ridge Mountains but still
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:its almost as bad as removing office carpet that's glued straight to a slab this should be illegal and carry the minimum sentence of 10 years edit: in b4 "much like my posting" Bigbillthaboss fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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shortspecialbus posted:We live on a mountain* now too, it's great. the blue ridge counts as long as the difference between local minima and maxima is more than 1000 feet  Citizen Rat posted:I am mostly okay with the piddly poo poo, but the bigger projects I should be supervised for because most of the time I've never had to do it myself. I have apparently leaned in hard to the useless/helpless academic stereotype so generally people don't let me get much further than announcing the problem and my plans to deal with before stepping and keeping me from, idek, nailing myself to a wall or something. grats on being the head in the clouds academic that gets steered away from perceived dangers, you never have to do poo poo you dont want to
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Bob Socko posted:This is where I’m at. Change out a switch to a fancy-pants timer switch? No problem. Use that to add a new outlet so I can power a bidet? God, no. Yeah once I replaced an outlet that was sort of melted. Twisting the ends of wires into those little plastic caps is kinda fun I guess.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I wonder if anyone has ever unironically purchased wallpaper past like 1980. I'd rather live in a house that is painted Landlord White in every room than have to deal with wallpaper. Well, maybe not the bedrooms. I realize this may be a honeypot but if you live in a 100 year old house like I do, and most of the historical aspects are still preserved, then you may be surprised to find that wallpaper actually fits the aesthetic well. At least in some rooms. I have wallpaper in one of my bathrooms and it isn’t tacky at all and fits really well. Wallpaper, chair-rail, and wainscoting work well in old craftsman homes. dialhforhero fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Wibla posted:Hopefully not 
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Mr. Grinch posted:I dont know how many of you remember this but after Mittani had his first public self immolation with the threadnaught and the legal threat from CCP, he was incredibly unpopular and even the goonwiki categorized him as a villain/insane former CEO with a good riddance. What is this in reference to? The EVE Fanfest panel where he encourage a player to commit suicide/be bullied to the point they commit suicide?
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:the blue ridge counts as long as the difference between local minima and maxima is more than 1000 feet Alas, our particular hill is more of a hill. But Rocky Knob isn't all that far and I think that's about a thousand feet. Compared to Wisconsin where I was, it's all pretty much mountains though.
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Bigbillthaboss posted:this should be illegal and carry the minimum sentence of 10 years turn on your monitor
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Kaysette posted:Yeah, let’s tread a little lighter here. These are complex issues and we’re going to need to talk through them at times, but the time for screeds and walls of chat logs about mittens is probably over. I apologize - I'm not intending to cause chaos at all or throw out petty stuff involving real things that hurt people in an attempt to mischaracterize anyone. I'm going to be more careful with what I say because I don't want anything to get out of control and I don't want it to lose focus and turn into a nonsense-fest - I am not used to people listening to what I say and doing things because of it, I've never been in this kind of position, it kind of scares me, and i don't wanna cause bad things or put out stuff that is untrue or violates people's privacy. Everything that I've posted in either thread, or on Reddit, is all stuff that was obtained through Google or searching these forums, using EVE usernames - I don't want this being seen as some kind of harassment thing so that it gets shut down, because it feels like that's what's going on, not that it's happening but that people are making those kind of attempts here and there - I'm sorry brisc for calling you out: I was attempting to, and yeah I'm just straight up telling you my plan here, this is the only reason I brought you up at all cheggitout: "okay so I've just found proof that the leader of this organization has been harboring a pedophile for a decade and here is one of his good friends and most publicly known affiliates, and I'm going to tell him straight to his face, in a thread he's just responded to a post by me and is answering other people's questions, because now he has to either respond or the lack of response speaks for itself. Why? Because it gives you the opportunity to either go oh whoa holy poo poo All right I'm done with him, or dig in and show that it's a loyalty based operation and not a morality-based one. You cannot have both." I did not think that it would provoke anyone to try to, I don't even know what, like dude I don't know your name I don't even know your real name. I know you're a right wing politics guy, that's it. No one is building up a chart for blood wars or whatever. Someone trying to gently caress with you in real life never crossed my mind, and I have never been in this situation before, and I hope that wasn't somebody motivated by me. Don't mess with brisc, don't mess with anybody, it's mean. I never imagined that this would get this degree of attention, I've never been.a kinda unofficial spokesperson to a large amount of people and feel like I've become one when it comes to this issue and real life harassment was the very last thing in my mind when I was saying anything. Fwiw to give better context, that post was for providing the info about BFM as a request from people earlier in the last thread who hadn't seen enough of it together to see how real it was, incl <SNIGG> leadership, since hey'd asked for stronger connected proof into the allegations I want to make extra clear that I'm not at all suspecting them of, nor accusing them of intentionally protecting/harboring BFM, he's an extremely deceptive person and the only reason I've been able to establish it's the same guy and that he actually did this stuff is because I was around him before the pedo poo poo Also a bunch of this post isn't a direct reply to you but is just stuff that I want to clear up while I'm writing this post that part about mittani saying that piece I went into a tangent on, I don't mean to look like I'm seeing stuff where there isn't, there's an added factor: I had just before posting that, been shown a second log from March 4, 2011, which was taken as a part of the internal investigation, taken by Vilerat, where mittani and a non-goonfleet member discussed the event with a third party in much, much greater detail while blatantly showing zero concern for the victim, and has him treating the extremely disturbing details discussed in it with a combination of disregard, detail-fishing, and as a joke. This unposted log is from March 4 2011, the log I posted itt is from Jan 05 2016 I can't post it or go into any greater detail than that publicly out of respect for the victim's privacy and for all of your mental health, but it's no good. I'm willing to send it to you for verification but I'm not going to go into extra detail on it it or to anyone else - it's not illegal content, it's only text, but it's disgusting. Reading it had me hosed up and my thought process on seeing that clearly disingenuous message by him in that log I'd posted had my thought process short-circuit past the "hey! everyone else does not know this extra info, just me, and I cannot & will not share that part openly!!" step. Without that added context I see how it reads like I'm making base assumptions off of just those couple messages by him & his patten of other behavior, and then pushing a narrative i.e automatically assuming he had no concern for the victim without hesitation and then calling it out off of a gut-feeling, or using a terrible thing to fuel spaceship drama as he's claiming his reason for telling people to 'drop it' on her behalf( with no substantiated evidence of her ever communicating that to anybody) That's not what I do and I don't want to look like I'm doing that because that's trashy. The focus of that post was on BFM. However coming across that message made me furious at yet another display of carefully triangulated maneuvering on the part of Mittani motivated by his own interest of self-preservation even if those interests happened to line up with the interests of someone who intentionally created an unimaginable amount of hurt, anguish, & fear for a minor in his community 4 years afterwards it'd happened in 2011, Mittani makes jokes about it, then 8 years after it happening,2016. his only concern about it seems to be PR blowback from the situation gaining attention and being followed back to the goonfleet.com forums where much of the abuse occurred and was distributed, involving multiple members, not only BFM - this is not something that was the norm there, I want to remind people who don't know that I was active in the goonfleet/swarm corp and community de facto from 05-09, 21-22, and have been connected to people in the community the entire time I wasn't in it, many of my best friends on the internet are people that I met through goonfleet I'm not trying to start a "they're a pedophile cult" chant: this is not about space politics and never was I'm really not calling out the base membership at all, I'm not even calling out most of the leadership, I'm calling out a few people who have done some bad stuff and two pedophiles - it's not a thing where after them it'll switch to someone else, it's just them This was the only eve community I've ever been part of, and I'm absolutely not calling my buddies all criminals I was trying to add another checked box to the systemic coverups/suppression/counterpropoganda related to any scandal of any kind, which seems to have started around 2012, at fanfest, with a wizard hat, and that style then continued, uncontrolled and unfiltered, and remains as long as the leaders are showing up to host his twitch stream and the organization doesn't have a process of "de-Mittanization" ala Nikita Khrushchev & the USSR: The stuff needs to be put out in the open, it needs to be unequivocally denounced, it needs to be acknowledged to have happened, and then it needs to be left. Remembered, but not there. Lots of clarifying here, I apologize for how many times I'm having to say that In every one of these things that has happened: i'm saying bad poo poo was done by in this instance under ten people, with one being the main instigator, and this one has nothing to do with leadership afaik I'm not 100% certain on the timeline of this period, but as far as my understanding goes, Vile Rat (rip) was still in the process of gathering the info of the grooming/abuse when he passed, and I believe that's when the handling of this was all disrupted and investigation/evidence collection wasn't able to by completed or delivered to authorities after that - not an intentional coverup. If anyone still has any more of that evidence, it could be extremely helpful. I don't feel that there was a intentional conspiracy to do or enable BFM to do this stuff. I don't think that there was an immediate attempt to cover it up, was a combination of events that were out of anyone's control, neglect and selfishness on the part of some, incompetence on the part of others, and the difficulty of connecting all of it when you joined after it'd happened and don't know where to really look or who to ask afaik the police report made by solo was detailing the images being distributed and did not have the details on the grooming/abuse as they weren't fully unveiled at the time - if anybody has any information on this, I'm not trying to go after the handling of this part, I just am trying to fill in gaps. Any time I'm asking questions, I'm legit asking them, I'm not doing that Fod news guy 'Are YOU a terroris" thing. i know most members and directors are just people and didn't sign up to an mmo to handle this stuff. It's not their 'job,' and it's a lot of very unsettling, complicated work. Not trying to go after people who made mistakes, forgot, were tricked, etc. Only the actual bad actors. Also for the record I have not contacted anyone, at all, about this privately: every single conversation had on this stuff has been initiated by the other party I haven't asked anyone to contact anyone, outside of official contact channels to spread awareness of this stuff to CCP, Pearl Abyss, INN affiliates and law enforcement if relevant; and I've asked that if people do contact anybody, to be polite. I've never wanted to lead an angry mob around, I'm not trying to, and I'll be much more careful with what I say, because I do not want to unintentionally encourage people to do stuff that hurts and upsets people, that's against everything I stand for I'm going to be much more careful with what I say because I don't want to instigate the wrong stuff and I'm realizing that some people are listening to what I say seriously and I've never had that kinda platform before and it scares me so please people don't do stuff that annoys folks or scares them. I don't ever wanna instigate that kind of stuff. his isn't a call for vigilante justice or vengeance or anything like that, and it never has been. Pls be kind, anonymity and anger are a bad mix. Edit: I'm fuckin mostly. not entirely, talking to you, redditors. I think it's some misguided well-intentioned or selfishly trying to exploit this for "metagaming" advantage and that's one of the things I'm tryna stop Believe women over spaceship mans. Protect children over spaceship man's. Don't harass over spaceship mans. Don't hide crimes and commit crimes and tolerate racism and sexism and pedophiles and people putting in 18 hour days and clearly killing themselves but gee they keep the structures fueled - think about the person. you need to put real life first no spaceship kingdom justifies this behavior I've seen a few who are tryin to run counterspin. not so much here, but j see it on Reddit really hard, it's probably the worst place to discuss this stuff. It's locked down, they autoinvis my posts & comments lol you know who I mean, but I'm not saying it. y'all talk one way & pretty different on that discord not talkin about leadership, any individual, or the whole group but you guys are fake. as. gets. Please do not inquire as to whom I refer and do not do anything bc watch the harassment will either stop or go up bc it's a small amount of people and I doubt they're from here because it's not a thing this forum is about at all and everyone here knows that lol - Do Not Harass that was the whole point, I've seen "first they were the victim, now they've become what they hate" - type poo poo WAY too often on Reddit yeah I read reddit it's really bad, neat for obscure interests and stuff tho Now let's see that pattern of harassment drop off please FirstnameLastname fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Bigbillthaboss posted:this should be illegal and carry the minimum sentence of 10 years mlyp
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Citizen Rat posted:I am! I landed a gig where they let me teach both Indigenous and anarchist politics! And then let me run around helping Indigenous communities file lawsuits against the nation-states in which they reside. (This is the one that got me into to trouble in Russia. Turns out the Russian powers that be really do not like it when you potentially both help Indigenous peoples and interfere with the flow of oil. Ah well. this is incredibly cool, maybe the coolest thing that it's possible to be, which is remarkable because the exact opposite end, the least cool thing a person can be, is an EVE online player, so,
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Mekchu posted:What is this in reference to? The EVE Fanfest panel where he encourage a player to commit suicide/be bullied to the point they commit suicide? It was the end of Mittani's first stint as CEO when we lived in the south. He thought some CCP employees were acting suspiciously and giving some advantage to our enemies (I don't remember how solid his case was at the time), so he tried to rabble-rouse the alliance into posting a lot on the official forums to call attention to the malfeasance and get things changed. It didn't work (the calls for change, not the calls to shitpost) and he resigned in disgrace. IIRC, by the time of the great kartooning, he'd somehow wormed his way back into leadership. He stepped into the power vacuum that kartoon left from which he ruled until he ran up against some people even worse at not believin than himself.
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Cefte posted:Well, that was a read and a half. hi cefte
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Cefte posted:Well, that was a read and a half. Hi Cefte!
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Mekchu posted:What is this in reference to? The EVE Fanfest panel where he encourage a player to commit suicide/be bullied to the point they commit suicide? Hahaha no this incident resulted in no disgrace or departure whatsoever, a few people called mittens a big loving dumb idiot in Elysium, he got banned from the game itself for a few months but he already was quite proud of running the show without ever needing to log in, literally nothing came of it except a bunch of redditors saying that he was a bad person for encouraging someone to kill themselves and therefore should kill himself and that is about it. Edit: he also had to resign from csm because of it and was banned from running again or something, and IIRC this was what prompted the whole "let's weaponize Xenuria by sending him to the csm to show our disdain" thing so really the most meaningful consequence was domino-meme levels of unintended consequences. hailthefish fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Hey look ma, my conduct was unbecoming
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Good Dumplings posted:lol and lmao Kind of BS. All I did was bitch in the Q&A Thread and I was banned. I don't have characters in an enemy corp, and I do believe I had 3 characters in goonwaffe. I didn't deface any service, harass anyone. Oh and I posted on reddit.
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Solus posted:Hey look ma, my conduct was unbecuming Ftfy
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quote:Going forward we are not going to allow personal/IRL attacks or comments about people, whether they're in alliance or not. The normalization of attacking people's RL attributes and pop psychology/psychobabble has polarized relationships negatively and is so derogatory in nature that it just isn't acceptable. nothing like breaking your own rule before you even finish defining it
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lol claiming what I did was beyond the pale I'm sorry that "lol" and chaos dunking mittani off the planet is too rude edit: must suck when the specific reason you wanted me to be mod is turned against u
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banned for posting mittanis logs in helldump, the anything goes forum with no rules lol lmao
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