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roomtone posted:https://twitter.com/limitlessjest/status/1551055651110940673 found himself upright on miracle status...that's a testimony
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After the incredible first episode, I was kind of disappointed by this one. There was very little of the “here is a ludicrously convoluted and unworkable plan Nathan has come up with” and instead it was almost entirely “take a look at these two weirdos”. And of course, those two were super weirdos so it was still very entertaining, but still disappointing. I guess it makes sense as the first part of an arc that will carry over the season, but it means the whole episode is setup.
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Comrade Fakename posted:After the incredible first episode, I was kind of disappointed by this one. There was very little of the “here is a ludicrously convoluted and unworkable plan Nathan has come up with” He moved an entire fake bar coast to coast just to have a place to hang out. To get around labor laws he got a robot baby to recreate the screams of an actual live baby from a livestream. inferis fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 24, 2022 13:53
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yeah if anything this episode was way better than the first one
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Jul 24, 2022 14:07
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I disliked the episode on first watch but on second watch it was better. Just not as funny as the first
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Jul 24, 2022 14:08
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it is different that most of the planning was done before the episode began - he already had the house, the parents permissions, etc - and we're just thrown straight into it. usually they'd show all of that stuff in detail. so i don't think the episode was all setup, they skipped most of the setup to get to the action. i suppose i can see why someone wouldn't like that, but i did.
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Jul 24, 2022 14:09
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The very first thing on the cheap chick in the city blog right now is a free birdwatching event.
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inferis posted:He moved an entire fake bar coast to coast just to have a place to hang out. To get around labor laws he got a robot baby to recreate the screams of an actual live baby from a livestream. The fake bar is just a joke about the fact that it was so expensive to build for the pilot that they had to contrive reasons for it to appear in more episodes. The baby plan is funny of course, but there were no more layers to it. I’m sure that by the end of the season the plan will turn out hilarious, but as I said this episode is all setup. By the way, I hate to resurrect Nathan Fakery chat (as the answer is that it doesn’t matter what is real or not as it’s funny), but I’m fairly sure everything in the barn is scripted and recorded later to stitch all the rest of the footage into a narrative.
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Jul 24, 2022 14:25
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Why would you think that? Seems like it matches up pretty well to me
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Jul 24, 2022 14:32
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Comrade Fakename posted:I’m fairly sure everything in the barn is scripted and recorded later to stitch all the rest of the footage into a narrative.  whats it like, being broken
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Jul 24, 2022 14:33
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The guy in fitzcarraldo being a psycho driven by an obsessive singular vision was just a plot contrivance to justify spending all that money and effort pulling a real boat over a mountain.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Nathan Fakery chat My wife refused at first to believe that Robin is a real person and not an actor, which is ridiculous because of COURSE insane people like that exist, and it’s not even that hard to imagine they’d find a way to get on TV, like this. I think the thing that set her on that path though is just how normal Robin appeared at first. Even the first time he told the story about crashing his Scion TC at 100 miles per hour (you guys remember that?) it initially sounds kinda cool and makes you go “what kind of life was this guy living before he got Saved?” (Not unlike Angela’s much tamer example of “drinking 40’s and smoking weed on the street corner”, which I’m sure she probably did exactly once) When Robin slowly starts revealing his true self, I can see how it might set off some people’s alarm bells as too wild to be real. But for me, there’s no doubt in my mind that Robin Is Real, as presented on this show. Especially with the further Twitter evidence from his brother, which is what finally convinced my wife
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HBO is not going to stump up the cash to move an entire set to Oregon just to ease the melancholy of a single oddball. TV shows often bend plots to justify reusing sets that were expensive to build. Just off the top of my head, the beginning of Star Trek: Discovery is largely set on the bridge of a starship that blows up at the end of the two-part pilot. The rest of the first season then contrives to have the set reappear, through flashbacks, visiting the destroyed ship floating in space, an alternate universe where it didn’t blow up, etc. This is just one example, it happens all the time in shows of all quality levels. Interviews about The Rehearsal mention that it was a particularly expensive pilot. And there’s no way they would be allowed to build this elaborate bar set for just a one-off episode. The fact that Nathan provided an amusingly flimsy excuse for such an extravagance was putting a hat on the realities of TV production. It was part of the joke. As for the barn, those same interviews I mentioned say that Nathan is a master of forming a story out of reams of perhaps disparate footage. And in this show that is the structural function of the barn scenes - to provide framing and context to the events in the house. This would all be easier to do after the “reality” portion of the show was wrapped, so I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be “faked”. They film all the reality bits, look through the footage and decide what the story they want to tell with it is, and then film the barn sections to tie it all together. This is not a criticism! The Rehearsal and Nathan For You are not reality shows, or documentaries. They are fictional comedies that rely on the authentic reactions of “real” people. Because of that reliance, a lot of the hilarious things they do have to be done for real. But anything that does not rely on those reactions is probably faked, because if it looks the same on camera, why wouldn’t it be? This is all cool and good. The Rehearsal and NFY are both TV shows that are above all about TV. They’re about the odd character of “Nathan Fielder,” a weird, awkward guy who somehow was able to command the resources of a TV production company and uses them to play out his bizarre obsessions and also for his own personal enrichment, using them to help him try to overcome his anxiety, make friends, find a girlfriend, and in this most recent episode indulge his paternal instincts. This is all justified with the patina of US reality TV presentation and tropes. Nathan does something selfish or pathetic but it’s justified with inspirational-sounding music and soft-focus as if some kind of emotional breakthrough was made. Considering the realities of how TV production really works when watching the show does not ruin the illusion, it allows you to appreciate it even more. Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 24, 2022 15:24
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drat, debunked
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it's pointless to speculate about what HBO "would" do when they already have done it. they apparently trusted Nathan and gave him a big budget and frankly i don't understand any talk about HBO "wasting money" or whatever. NFY ran 4 seasons and is a massive cult hit. this show is probably doing insanely well, even considering whatever budget it has (which is miniscule compared to literally any other show they do) like, The Flight Attendant definitely cost a lot more money than this show, and it is definitely a lot less popular
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Jul 24, 2022 15:36
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vague craigslist posts promising TV time and SA TVIV topics, apparently
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How many sets y’all reckon they had to build for Game of Thrones
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Mons Hubris posted:How many sets y’all reckon they had to build for Game of Thrones I bet they reused them just to save money
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precision posted:it's pointless to speculate about what HBO "would" do when they already have done it. they apparently trusted Nathan and gave him a big budget It’s not about what show costs more money or less, this is just how TV is made. Nathan pitches a TV pilot to HBO, which hopefully will turn into a full series. HBO agree but they hold onto the purse strings. They don’t just hand a cheque to Nathan and say “make whatever this money can fund,” they keep an eye on what their money is buying. When HBO decides to take the show to a full series, they are well aware that a big chunk of their cash went to building a recreation of the Alligator Bar. That’s expensive, so they likely wrote into the contract that the bar set had to be reused so they could feel like they got their money’s worth. This is a problem for an extremely episodic show like Nathan’s so they drop in a comedically contrived excuse to include it in the second episode, one that had nothing to do with the bar. This works because it’s a meta joke about the way TV is made in a show about how TV is made.
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inferis posted:I bet they reused them just to save money I mean, they definitely did, all the time. I’ve not read the books, but I guarantee there are scenes taken from the books placed in different locations in the show because “can we move this scene to a set we already have available?” is a conversation that occurs in all television across all budget levels. No one wants to spend more money than they have to, even if it’s the most expensive TV show ever made, at the time.
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Actually the bar recreation is still in a warehouse in New York, they just built a smaller warehouse inside the warehouse to simulate moving it across the country. It wasn’t ideal but hbo had the final say, they wouldn’t just hand him a check to move a bar across the country.
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I watched "Finding Frances" and was a bit disappointed. It was a touching story, but after watching some other episodes of Nathan For You and the first episode of The Rehearsal, I expected more insanity. Do you US guys not have TV shows where they help find people that lost each other/distant relatives, so this is something that's more unique over there?
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That was my thought not going to lie. There were some funny moments. It wasn't the worst bit of television but I didn't understand the high acclaim. I really loved nathan for you and it felt a little ehh.
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What gets the acclaim isn't the reuniting people aspects lol. Its how Nathan uses that as a framework to explore this lonely guy who manipulates the truth and Nathan then juxtaposes that against himself and the artifice of the show itself. The stuff with Maci is incredible and that ending has so many pieces that come together.
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Snooze Cruise posted:What gets the acclaim isn't the reuniting people aspects lol. Its how Nathan uses that as a framework to explore this lonely guy who manipulates the truth and Nathan then juxtaposes that against himself and the artifice of the show itself. The stuff with Maci is incredible and that ending has so many pieces that come together. Nathan talking to the escort is prime 
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Comrade Fakename posted:HBO is not going to stump up the cash to move an entire set to Oregon just to ease the melancholy of a single oddball. quote:The fact that Nathan provided an amusingly flimsy excuse for such an extravagance was putting a hat on the realities of TV production. It was part of the joke. quote:And in this show that is the structural function of the barn scenes - to provide framing and context to the events in the house. This would all be easier to do after the “reality” portion of the show was wrapped, so I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be “faked”. They film all the reality bits, look through the footage and decide what the story they want to tell with it is, and then film the barn sections to tie it all together. Nathan is a magician and he absolutely uses slight of hand liberally in his act, but we don't gain anything by assuming he must also be faking the juggling somehow.
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ymgve posted:I watched "Finding Frances" and was a bit disappointed. It was a touching story, but after watching some other episodes of Nathan For You and the first episode of The Rehearsal, I expected more insanity. Do you US guys not have TV shows where they help find people that lost each other/distant relatives, so this is something that's more unique over there? Its not so much that Finding Frances ranks among even the crazier stuff NFY did, it's more that it just functions really well as a series finale. After 4 seasons, it's surprising to see him break the format and do something that feels more personal
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https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-nathan-for-you-finale-my-new-favorite-love-story/quote:But, by the end of “Finding Frances,” we learn that Bill Heath was never really a Bill Gates impersonator at all. He merely impersonated a Bill Gates impersonator in order to get the job on “Nathan for You.” A sad state of affairs, but something that might have made Borges happy. Errol Morris explains pretty well what makes Finding Frances special, and it applies just as much to the rest of NFY and the rehearsal.
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I think he will set up the bar as his rehearsal base and literally live in the house raising the progressively older kid with Angela for an entire year while simultaneously shooting the “real” version of the show. Sort of like Review in which the job and home life are dangerously intertwined. I hope.
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The first episode of NFY was about poo-flavored ice cream, so you have to view the finale in that context.
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It's tough to gauge nathan wrt poo poo and farts based humor. Is his heart not really in it but he includes it because it's the medium of his generation, and what the audience expects, or is he such a fan that he wedges it into the show even when, let's face it, it isn't the best fit
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I thought Angela praying for Nathan and the production team was really sweet
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General Dog posted:I thought Angela praying for Nathan and the production team was really sweet She wasn't praying FOR them, her prayer was for God to control the experiment even though Nathan thought he was in charge.
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Phenotype posted:She wasn't praying FOR them, her prayer was for God to control the experiment even though Nathan thought he was in charge.
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The reveal of Nathan as old scratch is really gonna shock me
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Martman posted:Pretty sure this is setting up for later episodes, I think God is gonna show up soon I mean, Nathan moving into the house is kind of like God coming to earth.
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Nothing about the logistics of faking moving the set makes sense. If that were the case the show flew the girl from episode 2 to new york just to pretend they moved it, while her being there didn’t really add anything to the episode. Or they lied about it being in NY in the first place and flew the entire cast of episode 1 to Oregon any time the fake alligator was on screen lol. And it’s obviously in a different warehouse now than the one it was in in the first episode. I think a lot more sensible answer is that they built the set with the intent to move it so it could eventually fit into whatever Rube Goldberg machine this show is currently setting up.
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The cold open of this episode had me cackling. Without even knowing why they were doing it, the tense music with the clearly tense mood on set while they were doing the baby swap just had me thinking, Jesus Christ what the gently caress has this man gotten himself into now. Even though the reveal was somewhat underwhelming (just another one of the many legally required baby swaps to uphold the illusion of one kid) just thinking about what could have possibly wrought the situation unfolding on my screen was very amusing
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ymgve posted:I watched "Finding Frances" and was a bit disappointed. It was a touching story, but after watching some other episodes of Nathan For You and the first episode of The Rehearsal, I expected more insanity. Do you US guys not have TV shows where they help find people that lost each other/distant relatives, so this is something that's more unique over there? I'm not from the US, but I've never watched any finding relatives type show, so I didn't have that basis for comparison - but a lot of what makes Finding Frances work so well is that Bill isn't portrayed neutrally. His flaws are focused on as much as his desire to find some old love from his youth, and there's the thread of Nathan being lonely running alongside it. There's this constant skirting between ridiculous and sad which I doubt you'd get in some straight faced find my grandmother type of show starring a presenter and some Normal Person. the whole thing was permeated with this feeling of futility and loss, of throwing your life away for a deluded fantasy and then trying to scramble back to where you started, in yet another deluded fantasy. and it also managed to still be funny when it wanted to be.
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