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Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

LRADIKAL posted:

This thread is anti fascist, so maybe don't let fascists post in it!

I scan through the GIP threads once or twice a day to help make sure poo poo hasn’t gone completely off rails. I don’t know who the hell half of you shitposters from other parts of SA are and don’t know anyone’s posting history in other sub forums.

If you take issue with things that are posted, feel free to smash that report button or call it out so we see it when scanning threads.

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Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Hekk posted:

I think our inter forums drama derail has runs its course. This thread is for discussion about Ukraine and it’s defense against Russian invaders. Please try to steer conversation back that way.

I fail to see how posting about Russian disinformation campaigns is germane when it's pulling from twitter but not when it's pulling from SA. It's the same poo poo, but suddenly it's not okay to talk about when someone points out it's this website hosting it.

Jarmak fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 24, 2022

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

Jarmak posted:

I fail to see how posting about Russian disinformation campaigns in germane when it's pulling from twitter but not when it's pulling from SA. It's the same poo poo, but suddenly it's not okay to talk about when someone points out it's this website hosting it.

Because this thread turns into the spot everyone comes to complain about how lovely the rest of SA is instead of staying on topic. Feel free to call out Russian disinformation in the threads you see it in.

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Would love to know who is setting off incendiary shells over central Donetsk, which last I checked was under Russian control.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1550936296926969856


Jasper Tin Neck posted:

An ammo dump probably got HIMARSed and the ensuing fire cooked off a bunch of incendiary Grad rockets. We've seen similar fireworks when other dumps have gone boom.

The Russians have been sending incendiary Grads across Donetsk City (where that video was shot) to Avdiivka every night for almost a week. These are either early releases or the Russians decided to send a few way short. Either way, it's War Crimes O'Clock.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

CoffeeQaddaffi posted:

The Russians have been sending incendiary Grads across Donetsk City (where that video was shot) to Avdiivka every night for almost a week. These are either early releases or the Russians decided to send a few way short.

Yeah I imagine it's just equipment failure or operator error. The only other conceivable option is some sort of nonsensical false flag using weapons Ukraine doesn't even seem to have.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

my kinda ape posted:

Yeah I imagine it's just equipment failure or operator error. The only other conceivable option is some sort of nonsensical false flag using weapons Ukraine doesn't even seem to have.

Which, of course, would be exactly the kind of stupidity I've come to expect from the Russian military.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1550838584739069952

Apparently the strike on Odessa hit the grain terminal of the port?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Marshal Prolapse posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4008064&perpage=40&noseen=1

I posted in QCS please press F for me. The mod is actively and I mean without irony blaming Buca on Azov. So any posts of support would be appreciated.

I know this is kind of OT, but it's just repulsive and if I get a sixer for it, so be it. I think it's worth it.

Not to drag this back up as the topic is definitely closed, but I want to emphasize that importing drama from other subforums is frowned upon.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

That post did get me thinking- what happened to Azov? It seems like coverage of them stopped after Mariupol. Did they get folded in with another righter-wing extremist group, or are they just not that much of a relevant entity anymore?

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
As far as I know they are mostly dead

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

pantslesswithwolves posted:

That post did get me thinking- what happened to Azov? It seems like coverage of them stopped after Mariupol. Did they get folded in with another righter-wing extremist group, or are they just not that much of a relevant entity anymore?

The core fighting part seems pretty much spent after Mariupol, while the internet propaganda membership is still active on socials.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

M_Gargantua posted:

As far as I know they are mostly dead

They can't be that many of them left after the beating they gave/took.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I was hoping they’d all collectively fall down a really tall flight of stairs if they made it through the war

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

ASAPI posted:

They can't be that many of them left after the beating they gave/took.

Seems that way based on prisoner exchange numbers.

https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-fighters-freed-from-russian-captivity-in-prisoner-exchange/6639289.html

Natty Ninefingers
Feb 17, 2011

Or they were exchanged with a ditch.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

pantslesswithwolves posted:

That post did get me thinking- what happened to Azov? It seems like coverage of them stopped after Mariupol. Did they get folded in with another righter-wing extremist group, or are they just not that much of a relevant entity anymore?

Most of them are in captivity, some were freed in exchange few weeks ago; a part of Azov is still functioning as a special forces unit on the frontlines and they regularly post videos.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
It’s also confusing cause there are a fair number of people who aren’t in the azov unit but wear azov patches for angelic wolf morale reasons or whatever.

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008
It was my understanding that a large part of their forces were killed/captured in that encirclement, but there was a portion of their forces in the outskirts of the city that was able to withdraw with the rest of the Ukrainian forces.

At least that’s what I half remember from a map a month or two ago.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


I'm positively surprised that the Russians (sorry, the independent People's Republics) haven't publicly executed any as fascists yet

I'm sure there's horrible videos out there but afaik nothing that was designed to make it into mainstream media

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
The propaganda machine has moved on to other topics now that Azov is an established talking point.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Is Russia even talking about "denazification" any more? I'm curious about what their official propaganda line is these days.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I haven’t seen nearly as much of that rhetoric. I think they’ve fully settled into Lebensraum.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

aphid_licker posted:

I'm positively surprised that the Russians (sorry, the independent People's Republics) haven't publicly executed any as fascists yet

I'm sure there's horrible videos out there but afaik nothing that was designed to make it into mainstream media

I'm fully expecting the leaders of LNR/DNR to be labeled as terrorists if they execute the British, Moroccan, and American PoWs. Seems hollow until one realizes they aren't recognized as actual countries by anyone other than Russia, Syria, and North Korea, and being on the list basically gives the US government the ability to assassinate them through covert means without anything other than a basic legal review.

psydude fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 24, 2022

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


UAF seem to be continually forming new Azov units under their SSO umbrella in different regions (Kyiv, Kharkiv) including veterans of the original Azov units, but I'm not sure it isn't more coopting the fame/prestige of Azov to recruit. Compared to earlier in this phase of the war there does seem to be less or at least less prominent fascist imagery, so hopefully most of those guys are out of it. Probably many of them died or were captured in Mariupol as already mentioned.

https://twitter.com/VBTC_22/status/1533596024463400960

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1550788616858865664

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1550216378820562945

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1551012558718509057

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Is Russia even talking about "denazification" any more? I'm curious about what their official propaganda line is these days.

They are still talking about denazification. It's just now that they're saying that anyone who incorrectly identifies as Ukrainian instead of Russian is a Nazi, and that Russia the last best hope to stand against that horror.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

A.o.D. posted:

They are still talking about denazification. It's just now that they're saying that anyone who incorrectly identifies as Ukrainian instead of Russian is a Nazi, and that Russia the last best hope to stand against that horror.

I've seen a lot of tankies parroting the line that the USSR single-handedly defeated the Nazis in WWII, so this tracks.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


psydude posted:

I've seen a lot of tankies parroting the line that the USSR single-handedly defeated the Nazis in WWII, so this tracks.

People have so much difficulty with the concept of "allies".

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

glynnenstein posted:

UAF seem to be continually forming new Azov units under their SSO umbrella in different regions (Kyiv, Kharkiv) including veterans of the original Azov units, but I'm not sure it isn't more coopting the fame/prestige of Azov to recruit. Compared to earlier in this phase of the war there does seem to be less or at least less prominent fascist imagery, so hopefully most of those guys are out of it. Probably many of them died or were captured in Mariupol as already mentioned.

Even before Mariupol there were Azov splinter/offspring units. One of the, apparently, higher ups in Azov left and formed Kraken shortly after 2014/2015 iirc. While Azov was in Mariupol, Kraken was operating around Kharkiv.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Grand Fromage posted:

People have so much difficulty with the concept of "allies".

And the importance of Lend-Lease.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
Russians, facing reduced entertainment options due to world embargo, threaten to make chess cool

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1551185329960411141

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
BMP-2 barrel. Big country, big tolerances.

https://twitter.com/jmkorhonen/status/1550913336182816775/

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

GD_American posted:

Russians, facing reduced entertainment options due to world embargo, threaten to make chess cool

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1551185329960411141

no light fence? oh you best believe that's a paddlin

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008




Speaking of barrels, this one turned itself into a sunflower :dadjoke:

Chalks posted:

A few pages back we were talking about how frequently Russia would need to repair their artillery barrels to avoid losing too much accuracy.

Turns out if you just don't repair them, their inaccuracy becomes infinite

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1551294834027249664

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


shame on an IGA posted:

no light fence? oh you best believe that's a paddlin

" Apparently, children need to be warned. It happens.”

Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009
https://twitter.com/Clapman7/status/1551308278495203328

Is this how the guidance computers really work for unguided munitions? Anyone have the video he’s referencing?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Suicide Watch posted:

https://twitter.com/Clapman7/status/1551308278495203328

Is this how the guidance computers really work for unguided munitions? Anyone have the video he’s referencing?

I'm actually in the process of watching it right now.

https://youtu.be/qnoKpXvj41A

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


I remember these from my computer games. You point the plane at the target, pull up and the computer yeets the bomb when you're at the right angle

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
I've never heard of it for rockets but yeah jets definitely have computer controlled targeting/auto release for tossing dumb bombs. Not sure how accurate it is but it's surely a lot better than having the pilot guess!

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Can't speak to Russian equipment but with most US planes I'm familiar with you can choose between the computer telling you where your bomb is going to hit, or choosing a spot for the bomb to hit and having the computer tell you where to fly. For the latter basically you line up with the target and hold weapon release and the computer lets it go when the parameters are correct.

There's fancier cool-guy versions of that for JDAMs so you can pitch up and toss them far, the normal dumb-bombs stuff is intended for a more standard attack profile and probably can't hit the broad side of a barn if you try to toss them like that.

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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




isn't that literally what they do during the bombing run in Maverick?

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