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PT6A posted:He really is just the most unfunny, gormless motherfucker. How he got a TV show is beyond me. Useful idiot. he gives the elites a friendly place to go when their PR firm tells them they need to appear more “relatable.”
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Chieves posted:This is a better litmus test than a lot of people realize. What's fascinating is that here in Texas there's still a ton of Trump poo poo at these places but nothing for Abbott. We'll see if that actually matters in November one way or the other. It's anecdotal and I realize that but I think there's something to be gleaned from the things I see and hear. It's rather rare for ANY politician to generate an industry of flags, t-shirts and banners. In my lifetime, I've only ever really seen it with Trump, now DeSantis and, to a lesser extent, Barrack Obama. Ron will absolutely win re-election. Easily. There may be more registered democrats in FL than Republicans but the party itself may as well not even exist and are remarkably invisible and ineffectual. They don't do poo poo. They have no organization, coherent message or really anything resembling a platform, let alone a presence. I've tried to get involved with the party here and it's a loving joke. The guy that DeSantis beat is being charged with election finance crimes and, before that, the biggest name on a Democratic ticket here in this poo poo hole state was former Republican Charlie Crist, who lost. Florida is a solid red state for the foreseeable future and I don't see any names on the Dem bench that are going to inspire anyone. The state loves DeSantis right now mainly for his unorthodox approach to handling COVID, for better or worse.
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Pretending COVID doesn't exist, falsifying data, and going after people who try to actually do their job isn't exactly unorthodox for Republicans.
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Jul 24, 2022 18:44
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PT6A posted:He really is just the most unfunny, gormless motherfucker. How he got a TV show is beyond me. Lorne Michaels. Lorne used his massive pull at NBC to get Fallon slotted into Late Night after Conan O'Brien took over the Tonight Show because Fallon was Lorne's SNL golden boy. And then after Jay Leno blew up the Tonight Show by running back into the room and detonating a C4 vest right in Conan's face, Jimmy Fallon eventually inherited the wreckage because he'd gone from being "that unfunny pube who comes on at midnight" to being the heir apparent in like a year and a half after Leno got bored with his stolen prize and retired a second time and hosed off to CNBC. The happy ending here is that Stephen Colbert came along about a year later and just ruthlessly poo poo down Fallon's neck with The Late Show and Fallon has been a late night after thought behind him and Jimmy Kimmel ever since, largely because of how he patted Trump on the head like a good little doggy. Seth Meyers is a far better host anyway.
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Jul 24, 2022 18:47
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I'll die mad about what they did to Conan.
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Jul 24, 2022 18:56
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mdemone posted:I'll die mad about what they did to Conan. This remains an extremely hosed up thing to have done to a TV personality and their crew
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Jul 24, 2022 18:57
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Tiny Timbs posted:This remains an extremely hosed up thing to have done to a TV personality and their crew AND HE WAS SO GOOD AT IT
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Jul 24, 2022 18:58
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OTOH, who knows if we would have gotten Clueless Gamer in that timeline, so who's to say if it's good or bad actually. Wait, what thread is this?
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Jul 24, 2022 18:59
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Tiny Timbs posted:This remains an extremely hosed up thing to have done to a TV personality and their crew All because Conan used to make fun of Jeff Zucker in college, so Zucker got back at him by destroying his dream job because he was a tiny, grudge holding cocksmear.
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Jul 24, 2022 19:53
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I'm sorry, not to exacerbate a derail, but what happened to Conan?
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I'm sorry, not to exacerbate a derail, but what happened to Conan? Mostly wrestled giant snakes, some of which used to be wizards.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I'm sorry, not to exacerbate a derail, but what happened to Conan? He was promised the Tonight Show publicly by Jay Leno as a part of an orderly succession plan in advance of Leno's retirement. Only Leno didn't want to retire from late night TV so NBC gave him a token half hour show at 10:30 as a lead in to Conan on the Tonight Show. Only Leno's show sucked and was a ratings drag on both the Tonight Show and local NBC affiliate 11PM news, so Jeff Zucker, who was the head of NBC at the time decided he was going to kill the Tonight Show to save Jay Leno and stick it to his old college rival Conan. Conan went "gently caress this, I have too much respect for the Tonight Show to see all of you pricks do this to it, I quit" and left NBC after like 20 years as a mainstay on the network. Leno comes strutting back into the now utterly tarnished Tonight Show like "Eeeey, so what did I miss? Nuhhuhuhu!" and Conan had to spend a year in exile doing sold out stage shows because Zucker forced him into an insane non-compete contract as a part of his severance payout from NBC. Conan then got his show on TBS, who bent over backwards to accommodate him after he got screwed by NBC, and then like two years later Leno decided he was bored with doing late night TV and retired from the Tonight Show for real, leaving Jimmy Fallon to gormlessly trip into the smoking crater Leno walked away from. Hopefully that explains it well enough to sew up this derail. Anyway, BACK TO TRUMP
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I'm sorry, not to exacerbate a derail, but what happened to Conan? https://www.hollywoodinsider.com/conan-o-brien-the-tonight-show/ I haven't read that article but I'm sure it covers the highlights. Fuckin' shameful behavior.
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Jul 24, 2022 20:14
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Apparently on the Sunday talk shows, four 1/6 committee members (including both Republicans) say that the DOJ should open a criminal investigation into Trump. So, I think a criminal referral when they are done is pretty likely.
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Jul 24, 2022 20:41
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nine-gear crow posted:Lorne Michaels. Lorne used his massive pull at NBC to get Fallon slotted into Late Night after Conan O'Brien took over the Tonight Show because Fallon was Lorne's SNL golden boy. And then after Jay Leno blew up the Tonight Show by running back into the room and detonating a C4 vest right in Conan's face, Jimmy Fallon eventually inherited the wreckage because he'd gone from being "that unfunny pube who comes on at midnight" to being the heir apparent in like a year and a half after Leno got bored with his stolen prize and retired a second time and hosed off to CNBC. Fallon is by far the worst and in addition to Conan getting hosed over, I'm incredibly disappointed that Craig Ferguson never really got his due, because his show was amazing. From the robot cohost to Sid the Cursing Bunny and other puppets, to making explicit fun of how loving stupid Twitter is, he was so loving far ahead of everyone else.
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Rigel posted:Apparently on the Sunday talk shows, four 1/6 committee members (including both Republicans) say that the DOJ should open a criminal investigation into Trump. So, I think a criminal referral when they are done is pretty likely. There are currently 12 criminal investigations on going around the events of J06. https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1547093929513742337 I say 12 because since that thread we know that there is an investigation opened into the USSS. A formal criminal referral that lays everything out over a few hundred pages of testimony and evidence would be nice too though.
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I'll believe it when I see it. And will not hold my breath.
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Steve Bannon talks a lot of poo poo about what a hardass he is. He still has I suppose three-six months before he actually has to serve his sentence, whatever that might be. Thirty days to two years, depending. Maybe he thinks he can handle it but I suspect he's only delaying the inevitable as long as possible in the hopes he'll luck out somehow on a technicality, or only have to do a quick stint before he is pardoned. Virginia Thomas, on the other hand, is a mentally ill church lady fascist. I'm pretty sure she has no illusions about her ability to survive in prison. I bet her mind has been occupied with questions about whether her marriage to a SCOTUS judge is enough to keep her out. I would expect it is enough, but poo poo. That's never been tested, has it? She does not strike me as tough. She's as smart as granite and as loving as Susan Smith. How is she going to handle a subpoena vs. criminal contempt? Because she has no plausible claim to the protections Mark Meadows has been granted. Best case for her is to go like Flynn and just plead the fifth, right? She's got to be the type to do whatever she must to avoid prison. I wonder what that leaves her. She's publicly doubled-down about her actions since being mentioned by the committee, but does that mean she'll talk under oath? I doubt that. But what is she left? She's a real inconvenience. And typing that sentence just now lit a light bulb over my head that makes me feel gross, and afraid.
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Fart Amplifier posted:I don't think Trump voters care about CNNs coverage Good number of Obama voters switched to Trump in 2016. Coverage matters.
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VideoGameVet posted:Good number of Obama voters switched to Trump in 2016. Adding to the Conan thread, Zucker e: Less Zuckerberg more Zucker Automatic Slim fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Automatic Slim posted:Adding to the Conan thread, Zuckerberg had moved to CNN by this time. Zuckerberg enabled Trump and his game show on NBC and he enabled Trump by covering his rallies on CNN. Zucker was also famous quoted on the matter of whether Trump was bad for the United States and the world if he gained the power of the presidency as basically saying "Oh yes, of course he is. But it'll be great for CNN's ratings!" Just the worst level of scumbag imaginable, even worse than Trump somehow.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Virginia Thomas, on the other hand, is a mentally ill church lady fascist. She’s a true believer, that she could be failed by her god is not something that has crossed her mind.
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There was a twitter thread detailing all of the possible charges that may or may not be brought as a result of the hearings. I could have sworn it was in here, and I could have sworn it was from @MuellerSheWrote, but I can't seem to find it in either. Does anyone happen to have it? edit - lol never mind it's on this loving page sorry
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InsertPotPun posted:mmmmeh. you need a cult of personality to get trump numbers, desantis isn't going to gather a trump cult of personality because he's a grumpy dickhead who isn't entertaining in the least. chuds need trump's "humor" to hide behind, "it's just a joke, bro" is a gigantic part of the chud playbook and trump, being objectively funny either on purpose or by accident, is a lot of what makes him bulletproof. they used to refer to nixon as "charming" and "funny" too despite the fact that he was a bitter old toad who took pleasure in other people's pain....hey that sounds like trump! With the way the Republican party is now, DeSantis could run on a platform of entirely "Own the libs" and "all our problems are caused by (group of people Chuds don't like)" and cakewalk to the nomination
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:With the way the Republican party is now, DeSantis could run on a platform of entirely "Own the libs" and "all our problems are caused by (group of people Chuds don't like)" and cakewalk to the nomination This is basically the entirety of the RNC platform and literally whomever their candidate is will run on these pillars.
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American politics feels more and more like Green Street Hooligans everyday. Wonder what our version of Prime Minister's Questions would look like.
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https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1551583450553090050 in lighter news. lol/ -Blackadder- posted:American politics feels more and more like Green Street Hooligans everyday. Wonder what our version of Prime Minister's Questions would look like. i think your giving the UK too much credit. i feel like the UK media would defend this poo poo way way more and louder then the US media. US media sucks/etc but UK is all different stripes of fox news from what here. BigBallChunkyTime posted:With the way the Republican party is now, DeSantis could run on a platform of entirely "Own the libs" and "all our problems are caused by (group of people Chuds don't like)" and cakewalk to the nomination i mean yeah but he also has not charisma and if trump runs, desantis is hosed because he is a really shitt pale reflection of trump with none of the hosed up charms.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:With the way the Republican party is now, DeSantis could run on a platform of entirely "Own the libs" and "all our problems are caused by (group of people Chuds don't like)" and cakewalk to the nomination You're all still trying to prognosticate beyond the event horizon that is "whatever happens with Trump". Book title: We need to talk about Donald.
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nine-gear crow posted:Zucker was also famous quoted on the matter of whether Trump was bad for the United States and the world if he gained the power of the presidency as basically saying "Oh yes, of course he is. But it'll be great for CNN's ratings!" So he acknowledges that Trump generates tons of content, what's so bad about that?
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mdemone posted:You're all still trying to prognosticate beyond the event horizon that is "whatever happens with Trump". yeah trump is running if he can no matter what and that election is still a year and half or so out. i suspect he announce before labor day and mid terms. anyway we will have a month to get weird and poo poo about this before more hearings start again
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think your giving the UK too much credit. i feel like the UK media would defend this poo poo way way more and louder then the US media. US media sucks/etc but UK is all different stripes of fox news from what here. As far as American PMQs, maybe they'd be more violent given how many American politicians apparently sneak in guns and knives into congress. OTOH it's always been interesting how much more rowdy UK parliament is than US Congress.
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And now in the "I thought Fawni Willis was smarter than this" category, she hosted a fundraiser for the opponent of Burt Jones, who is a) running for GA Lt. Gov. and b) a target of her fake electors special grand jury. I'm sure it is entirely legal but the judge called it a "what were you thinking" moment and all I can do is agree. The investigation and prosecution of Burt Jones will now have to be moved to another court. There is no loving margin for this kind of stupidity. This is a slam-dunk and the Nazis are gonna cry foul no matter what happens but for gently caress's sake can we not score every own goal along the way? quote:Judge blocks Georgia DA from developing case against Republican state senator in Trump investigation
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Dr. Faustus posted:And now in the "I thought Fawni Willis was smarter than this" category, she hosted a fundraiser for the opponent of Burt Jones, who is a) running for GA Lt. Gov. and b) a target of her fake electors special grand jury. I'm sure it is entirely legal but the judge called it a "what were you thinking" moment and all I can do is agree. I'm not getting all in a panic over this. Having the judge make this ruling that the guy still would be investigated but not by her actually adds to the legitimacy of the process. Had the judge NOT removed her as the DA and let her continue the GOP would have made a lot more noise over this.
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Speaking of the investigations: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1551690152736694272 Short was at the Capitol and with Pence, and has previously been shown in video in the congressional hearings. Unclear about what he talked about specifically, but wonder if some discussion of Pence's USSS detail and/or discussion of what they were talking about that day is involved.
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Mirotic posted:Speaking of the investigations: This is for the OOJ charge, they can collect heaps of evidence for that alone, to begin with. Or maybe also 1512.
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mdemone posted:This is for the OOJ charge, they can collect heaps of evidence for that alone, to begin with.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Sorry, I can't place OOJ. Please elaborate what's OOJ and what's 1512? This sounds like possible confirmation of mattering. Obstruction of justice, and tampering with a witness, if I'm not mistaken.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Sorry, I can't place OOJ. Please elaborate what's OOJ and what's 1512? This sounds like possible confirmation of mattering. Obstruction of Justice and 1512 is likely referring to https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512 or witness tampering.
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