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Arquinsiel posted:Really successful contrast job. If you want to take that battle damage up exactly one notch, where you've got the large splodges if you put a little black smear in the middle it looks like the progression goes burnt paint > bare metal > carbon scored metal. I used to do it on all my second hand BattleTech stuff wherever the old lead minis got dinged up in the process of stripping the paint. I might give that a go on my next box, thanks!
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Jul 16, 2022 03:39
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StashAugustine posted:Mind trick is definitely fun but struggles into CIS, so it's a decent pick if you don't care about an all comers list. It's also pretty strong on Luke to set up You Serve Your Master Well. I think Push is just too vital to how saber users work to give up though- being able to manipulate engagement opens up so many new plays for them Huh. My memory failed me there! Mind you I only just picked up a copy of it so there's that. In other news, Assaj Ventress and Rebel Ashoka Tano coming Q2 2023, possibly a year until they come out but at least they are finally on the way. Ventress is CIS operative naturally. Ashoka is specifically the Rebels Fulcrum incarnation, not Clone Wars or Mandalorian. There will be other versions. Again she's an Operative, both she and Ventress will have the same lightsaber mastery,be dodge focused and double sabers. Ventress is more offensive, Ashoka more defensive.
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Jul 17, 2022 15:42
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Are full Droid armies reasonably competitive? There's a place near me that does league play every once in a while and I'm tempted to try this game out with a Separatist army. I see there's a boxed set for them coming out in a couple months, so if they're decent I might wait and pick that up.
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Jul 18, 2022 18:53
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Super tactical droid along with spider droids is the current stupid broken list, and really every CIS list is at most one or two meatbags in charge. Core set plus the boxed army should be enough to make some pretty decent lists with
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Jul 18, 2022 21:03
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Yeah, just started from the starter box and it's a lot of fun to play CIS. I've expanded via resin magic into some Super Droids and being able to give every trooper an order from one order is consistently hilarious.
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Jul 20, 2022 02:40
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Comic-con announcement: Looks like clones are getting a vehicle commander and a couple of nice personnel upgrades here. I really like the mechanic of adding named clones as unit leaders to change up your squads. I really want GAR to get a new operative though!
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Jul 23, 2022 07:11
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Points and good list be damned, I will run a named clone in every squad, drat it! 
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Jul 23, 2022 09:20
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Do they have Delta Squad in game officially yet?
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Jul 23, 2022 17:08
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Do they have Delta Squad in game officially yet? Unless there's a card I'm totally blanking on, they've just got Rex, Echo and Fives as far as named clones go.
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Jul 23, 2022 17:14
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Unless there's a card I'm totally blanking on, they've just got Rex, Echo and Fives as far as named clones go. "Delta Squad included RC-1138, RC-1140, RC-1207, and RC-1262—informally known as "Boss", "Fixer", "Sev", and "Scorch", respectively."
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Jul 23, 2022 17:19
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GreenBuckanneer posted:"Delta Squad included RC-1138, RC-1140, RC-1207, and RC-1262—informally known as "Boss", "Fixer", "Sev", and "Scorch", respectively." Right, I was saying I don't think they're in the game.
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Jul 23, 2022 17:20
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Right, I was saying I don't think they're in the game. Ah, gotcha, I misunderstood.
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Battle report! I played the first full game in years yesterday (though our table is only 5x3 we made it work). It was empire vs. separatists. and we set up a sort of funky castle wall (with the stairs going up the outside, because of alternate placement. I joked that the architect was probibly fired.) The setup was breakthrough goal with rapid reinforcements. I dropped my storm troopers by a wall, but some Pikes climbed through the break in the wall and slaughtered by storm troopers. My ATST was off looking at another problem to my right, trying to help defend palp and the guards.  I knew if I tried charging with my 7 activation I was no way going to break through and at least one of his 10 (!) activation was probability going to get past, so I played fairly defensively, keeping in cover with defend and over-watch actions. I had a squad of snow troopers by a house in the back also taking pot shots and discouraging a fast advance. The problem was, my opponent was moving forward, but was also a bit skittish of meeting all my soldiers and so didn't charge super fast until the very end.  Stormtroopers holding the line  "Oh poo poo, it's Darth Maul!" Darth maul operative and some observer droids crept through the drawbridge tunnel, and met my smallest storm-trooper squad. With some lucky rolls I managed to destroy all 3 of the bots in 2 rounds, but then Maul obliterated them, killing the last one with a saber throw and ran up to my storm troopers and proceeded to destroy them as well.  Palp was super slow, but I managed to get him eventually to the wall and jump out and fry an entire pike squad with "And now you will die" (it's a very fun card). We only played 4 rounds before we had to go and it took us about 4 hours (and I forgot my speeder bikes, which would have made it go even longer). In the end neither of us scored objective points and I lost on points (Imp guards, Palp and a few storm troopers vs. a few b1 squads and some pikes) by some 200 points difference. Strategically I'm not sure what I should have done differently. Maybe focus fired more on the bigger squads (pikes, Maul) since the B1s were such low points. we agreed to stick with skirmish games for now on, since standard just takes too long to play.
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Sounds like you had fun. Having only recently put serious effort into this game, it's has taken a few games to fully click but then got a lot faster. Once you start to remember your key words and don't have to constantly keep looking everything up it is much smoother!
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Jul 23, 2022 23:23
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Skirmish games tend to overemphasize close range/melee stuff and you cant take as many toys, but I do like how much faster it plays. In that game I think playing defense was the correct call, but frankly in that matchup I might have tried to get a more favorable objective, since you dont have a lot of mobile elements and can't play such perfect defense your opponent can't score (this changes if you did bring bikes instead.) I also dont think Palpatine and the ATST have a lot of synergy, they're both very expensive and Palpatine mostly wants firepower that he can use Pulling the Strings on. Looks like a great game, thanks for the report!
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StashAugustine posted:Skirmish games tend to overemphasize close range/melee stuff and you cant take as many toys, but I do like how much faster it plays. In that game I think playing defense was the correct call, but frankly in that matchup I might have tried to get a more favorable objective, since you dont have a lot of mobile elements and can't play such perfect defense your opponent can't score (this changes if you did bring bikes instead.) I also dont think Palpatine and the ATST have a lot of synergy, they're both very expensive and Palpatine mostly wants firepower that he can use Pulling the Strings on. Looks like a great game, thanks for the report! Yeah, they vetoed the one before it on the last round of vetos (it was the third objective card), surprising me, so there wasn't a lot I could have done to prevent it. Likely the bikes would have maybe done a little damage to one of the b1 squads and then crashed in laser fire, so I'm not sure they would have done much good anyway, there wasn't really any way they were going to break through. I'm thinking my next buy should be more more special forces or operative type units, I don't have a huge collection right now. All I have is: Palp (L) Darth Vader (L) Imp Guards (SF) Stormtroopers (C) (x3) (Two from core, 1 I bought) Snowtroopers (C) ATST (H) Speeder Bikes (S) (From the Core) I was considering running Vader with Palp, thinking maybe as a duo they could do some damage (though without something to speed them up they take forever) I feel like I get a lot of use out of the ATST, both at stopping ground units and as a way of warding off enemy heavies, so I'm a bit loath to cut it. maybe I'll try Vader+ATST, though I don't get as much synergy with the royal guards with vader. (Also Palp and the guards are my new toys so I want to bring them out). Foolster41 fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 24, 2022 02:53
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Foolster41 posted:Yeah, they vetoed the one before it on the last round of vetos (it was the third objective card), surprising me, so there wasn't a lot I could have done to prevent it. Palpatine traditionally gets along well with shoretroopers for their solid range 4 shooting, though DLT or RT97 storms can be an alternative. Scout strike teams with snipers are both good in general as cheap effective filler, and also again with Palps. If you want operatives (or half-operatives), Bossk, Iden, and I guess soon IG-88 have very effective long range shots as well, and being able to double tap Bossk is pretty nasty. I'd definitely do scouts first for general purpose needs e: oh also consider a specialists pack, the generic officer and coordinated fire command card are imperial staples, and palp really likes having a medic around StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 24, 2022 03:37
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Foolster41 posted:I was considering running Vader with Palp, thinking maybe as a duo they could do some damage (though without something to speed them up they take forever) Upgrade card pack 2 might be of interest, it includes the Force Speed cards that give you one turn of speed 3 to catapult them forwards. You do need to be careful when to use it though.
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Ugleb posted:Upgrade card pack 2 might be of interest, it includes the Force Speed cards that give you one turn of speed 3 to catapult them forwards. You do need to be careful when to use it though.
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Jul 24, 2022 08:12
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 Getting back into Legion painting with some Shadow Collective stuff
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regarding Shadow Collective: What do you see people running currently as far as shadow collective units/purchasing right off the bat? Right now, I have: -2x pyke foot soldiers -2x black sun enforcers -2x mandalorian super commandos I own all the commanders/operatives for the faction, and eagerly awaiting to buy 2 of the swoop bike rider units. My plan is to run a pure shadow collective faction, I'm just not seeing a huge justification for buying more than two units collectively, but it seems like in the beginning many people are running 3 mandalorian super commandos. Is it worth right off the bat just buying more of each of these? I have a gut feeling that more units are going to be released as time goes on, making 3x of any unit not really feasible.... that being said, 3x mandalorian super commandos actually seems pretty sexy.
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Jul 24, 2022 23:36
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Since they're not technically a full faction I wouldn't expect them to get showered in support- except for the swoops I don't think anything announced is for them. Most of the strong lists right now seem to be Pyke spam for corps, though maybe that's just familiarity and reliability. 2x Mandos seems pretty reasonable, 3 is probably workable; 4 seems like a gimmick and tbf you'll have enough spare models to make it work
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A bunch of lists I've seen want like 4 Pykes which makes me extremely not interested in playing them
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:A bunch of lists I've seen want like 4 Pykes which makes me extremely not interested in playing them Yeah, I am honestly just considering holding out for a while and waiting until more core units drop along with special forces units and so fourth. None of the core troops really entice me the way that running 3x stormtroopers does just given that they roll whites for defense and aren't really the greatest in terms of combat, albeit not "horrible." I'm not planning on entering tournaments at this time so it's not like I'm trying to build a competition based army, but would like to win against my buddies and other individuals in non competition battles. Nice and hot piss fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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I'm genuinely considering just running Black Sun as a counts-as for Pykes at local game nights
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My friend is trying to run a gimmick of “as few models as possible on the table” for shadow collective. I think he’s doing black sun core troops (w/ the mag-det guy, that one is a monster), Maul, Saxon, Bane, Bossk, and filling the rest with Mandos. I think he’s down to 16 or so in an 800 point list? Maul, Saxon, Bane, and Bossk all together are like over half your points gone already 
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Nice and hot piss posted:Yeah, I am honestly just considering holding out for a while and waiting until more core units drop along with special forces units and so fourth. None of the core troops really entice me the way that running 3x stormtroopers does just given that they roll whites for defense and aren't really the greatest in terms of combat, albeit not "horrible." Black Sun are super good too, there's been lots of focus on pykes but but Black Sun have been putting up wins in big tournaments. Edit: Pykes are actually far better than you're giving them credit for. They roll better dice at range 3 than Shoretroopers, get a free dodge that dodges crits and Danger Sense 2, once they have suppression, is better than red defense dice for 3 or fewer hits, and parity at 4 hits. They're one of the best Corp in the game, probably the best all-rounder. hoiyes fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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hoiyes posted:
I played against 2 squads of Black Sun in a skirmish game, and was trying to focus Maul down while they marched forward. I managed to kill Maul (barely), but the enforcers and their mag-det guy loving ruined my clone squads. Pykes feel like a blend of rebel soldiers and pathfinders. They’ve got the high points of both (shooting black dice, surge on defense, danger sense), plus a little extra. Sure it’s just white defense dice, but they’re going to be annoyingly tough to dislodge from cover once they’ve got any amount of suppression. You can even give them Prepared Supplies to have an extra dodge on-hand (one-time use, but still).
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Icon Of Sin posted:My friend is trying to run a gimmick of “as few models as possible on the table” for shadow collective. I think he’s doing black sun core troops (w/ the mag-det guy, that one is a monster), Maul, Saxon, Bane, Bossk, and filling the rest with Mandos. I think he’s down to 16 or so in an 800 point list? I've made some actually pretty legit Rebel lists at 23 models (Han Chewie Lando Sabine Clan Wren and the rest naked corps and snipers)
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StashAugustine posted:I've made some actually pretty legit Rebel lists at 23 models (Han Chewie Lando Sabine Clan Wren and the rest naked corps and snipers) This is very similar to the cheap-mode list I've been thinking about for Rebels as I work from Skirmish to Standard point values. I imagine I can actually drop a few of the extra upgrades on the Commando Strike Teams and I'm not at all married to the AT-RT. But it seemed like a reasonable inexpensive way to hit the full 800 points while providing some tools that'll probably be useful even when I have more options. Cheapskate Rebels 800/800 (10 activations) Commanders: - Luke Skywalker (160): Saber Throw (5), Force Push (10), Environmental Gear (2) = 177 - Han Solo (100): Vigilance (5), Offensive Push (4), Ascension Cables (4) = 113 Operative: - Chewbacca (90): Into the Fray (4), Offensive Push (4), Emergency Stims (8) = 106 Corps: - 3× Rebel Troopers (40): MPL-57 Ion Trooper (17) = 171 Special Forces: - Commandos (48): Duck and Cover (2) = 50 - 2× Commando Strike Team (20): DH-447 Sniper (28), Overwatch (4), Ascension Cables (4), Smoke Grenades (3) = 118 Support: - AT-RT (55): Laser Cannon (10) = 65 Commands: ••• Notorious Scoundrels, ••• Change of Plans, • Sorry About the Mess, •• My Ally is the Force, • Sabotaged Communications, •• Reckless Diversion, •••• Standing Orders
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The units look good though I'd personally mess around with the upgrades (not a huge fan of MPLs, for one). I'd probably pick up operative Luke for the command cards if nothing else- though his unit card is also nuts. I also can't emphasize enough how quickly I'd take Son of Skywalker over Sab Comms. I do like some full commandos with snipers too, if you're wanting to experiment a little. e: if you're looking to pick up a third corps vets might be useful since they're two units in one box, i'd just get one if you wanna get the battleforce later
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StashAugustine posted:The units look good though I'd personally mess around with the upgrades (not a huge fan of MPLs, for one). I'd probably pick up operative Luke for the command cards if nothing else- though his unit card is also nuts. I also can't emphasize enough how quickly I'd take Son of Skywalker over Sab Comms. I do like some full commandos with snipers too, if you're wanting to experiment a little. Oh, I didn't know that. I'd been going back and forth on the battlebox and might pick it up regardless, but the Han & Chewbacca combination looked like a lot of fun. (And noted on Son of Skywalker. It does look really good.)
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Yeah vet boxes come with a full unit plus a detached machine-gun thats treated as a separate unit. The battleforce box claims it comes with 4 vets and 4 turrets but given how bad their proofreading has been recently I'm not clear if they hosed up "2 vets and 2 turrets for a total of 4" as "4 of each"
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StashAugustine posted:Yeah vet boxes come with a full unit plus a detached machine-gun thats treated as a separate unit. The battleforce box claims it comes with 4 vets and 4 turrets but given how bad their proofreading has been recently I'm not clear if they hosed up "2 vets and 2 turrets for a total of 4" as "4 of each" I look forward to the tears if this turns out to be true!
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Is there a place to buy just the cards for Legion or a decent do-it-yourself way at home? I have a 3D printer and play Skirmish casually with friends, so haven't been looking to shell out on a lot of the regular troop expansions yet. I read a decent inkjet on cardstock combined with hi-res images would work, but I'd prefer to at least get money into the hands of a retailer if I can manage.
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Upgrade cards are sold in packs but not unit cards. You can get the info you need for any unit from https://tabletopadmiral.com/ but getting that to a printable format is outside my aoe.
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Most upgrade cards can be bought in separate packs, but yeah unit cards and their specific upgrades are tied to the unit boxes
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Yeah, I should have specified I am interested in unit cards. I don't mind buying upgrade cards in bulk in the card packs - my local shop carries those and I'd be happy to support them - but if there's a secondhand or wholesale way to get unit cards without having to drop $35 on plastic too that would be great.
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