|
Z the IVth posted:You could get stux-netted like an Iranian nuclear plant. nadine norries and liz truss will protect me
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 07:58 |
|
|
Being locked in my car and crispy fried by the batteries is a feature, actually.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:17
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:Being locked in my car and crispy fried by the batteries is a feature, actually. what temp was your car when you got in it on the hottest day this year? mine? very cool as it had preconditioned itself down to a lovely pleasant temp. although maybe the iranians did it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:20
|
|
|
I don’t even need to hypothesise hackers or malware to not want smart devices — computers are bad, they take work to use and maintain, and the benefits of convenience and functionality have to be weighed against the invisible costs that people don’t discuss as much. Devices in general should be as simple as possible to use. Putting computers in them makes them massively more complicated for very questionable gain.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:20
|
|
|
thats just your lack of imagination at work you literally just used a computer to post this dumbass point of view? i typed this with my monitor off (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:22
|
|
|
Z the IVth posted:You could get stux-netted like an Iranian nuclear plant. It's not about them turning the brightness on your TV so high that it explodes, it is about them gaining access to your TV and then pivoting into the rest of your network and then getting all your data and logins so that they can get money. Though most of the time the human is the weakest part of the chain in that network. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 24, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2022 23:23
|
|
|
Don’t get Nest (American, Alphabet) Get netatmo (French, Legrand)
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 00:14
|
|
|
Also those camera doorbells are always on and the police can go above your head and request the footage straight from the company. Don't help the surveillance state.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 00:31
|
|
|
TACD posted:I don’t even need to hypothesise hackers or malware to not want smart devices — computers are bad, they take work to use and maintain, and the benefits of convenience and functionality have to be weighed against the invisible costs that people don’t discuss as much. Pretty much every device is running some sort of microcontroller these days, it's a bit late for that. It's less about putting computers into things and more about those computers having an open interface that doesn't at the very least require soldering to use. Internet of course being the worst for it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 00:34
|
|
|
What's that meme with the early adopter who has everything in their house connected to the internet and then the computer expert saying "I have a baseball bat next to my printer in case it makes a weird noise."
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 00:50
|
|
|
Umbra Dubium posted:What's that meme with the early adopter who has everything in their house connected to the internet and then the computer expert saying "I have a baseball bat next to my printer in case it makes a weird noise." https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905?lang=en
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 00:53
|
|
|
Brendan Rodgers posted:It's not about them turning the brightness on your TV so high that it explodes, it is about them gaining access to your TV and then pivoting into the rest of your network and then getting all your data and logins so that they can get money. Unless you manage to enforce basic opsec on your entire household it's pretty much a foregone result that your home network is going to have gaps in it. It's hard enough to get family to shred documents on a regular basis and I think I've had the Alexa=bad conversation with my other half many, many times. Not having any other people in the household is also a solution I guess. Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jul 25, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:06
|
|
|
Tbh the main reason I don’t get many smart devices isn’t because of security or an aversion to home automation… it’s the long history of smart devices just turning into paperweights when the company goes bust or drops the product and the servers switch off (or if there’s no remote server, then it stops getting updates and suddenly the app doesn’t work on iOS 20 and now you can’t use it). Nest is owned by Google. Google is not a company that keeps products alive on a reliable basis.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:06
|
|
|
you're all mental
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:07
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:you're all mental https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfnDTvbtDUI
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:10
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:you're all mental You drive a car that comes with day-zero paid DLC. I'll stick to mental tyvm.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:14
|
|
|
I am surprised there isn't an open source version of a Star Trek like computer voice interface with no loving ties to any evil company or data harvesting.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:33
|
|
|
happyhippy posted:I am surprised there isn't an open source version of a Star Trek like computer voice interface with no loving ties to any evil company or data harvesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkE4Enc9IgY
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 01:48
|
|
|
i remember being a young teen on the internet in the wild days of firefox taking a hit at internet explorer 6, surely this was the future and software would avoid becoming a great capitalistic hellscape. the year of linux on the desktop was right around the corner and information would be eternally free
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 02:37
|
|
|
Total Meatlove posted:Don’t get Nest (American, Alphabet) Or make ur own. Then nobody's spy agency has access not even DGSE.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 03:36
|
|
|
Angepain posted:i remember being a young teen on the internet in the wild days of firefox taking a hit at internet explorer 6, surely this was the future and software would avoid becoming a great capitalistic hellscape. the year of linux on the desktop was right around the corner and information would be eternally free Turns out Linux was on the phone Edit: BTW citation very much needed on London of all places being a 'blue city'. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jul 25, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 03:43
|
|
|
feedmegin posted:Turns out Linux was on the phone Sorry I was drunk, I meant that London is controlled by tories regardless of who the mayor is because they hold the purse strings
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 06:04
|
|
|
It's also impossible not to sound like a oval office when you're commanding Alexa/Siri/Google Assistant to do stuff.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 06:42
|
|
|
There isn't strictly anything stopping you from saying please and thankyou to the robot except your own self consciousness.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 07:02
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:There isn't strictly anything stopping you from saying please and thankyou to the robot except your own self consciousness. This is like a very mild roku's basilisk
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 07:10
|
|
|
Also the default voice for all digital servants is female, which is #problematic!!!
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 07:35
|
|
|
The Perfect Element posted:Also the default voice for all digital servants is female, which is #problematic!!! Things are problematic when something you enjoy has bad sides that need to be acknowledged. These robots have no good sides and nobody decent enjoys them, so they can't be problematic.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 07:57
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:you're all mental lol Nest has actually already been discontinued. They say there’s minimum 5 years of support for each device from date of release but at some stage I assume the servers are going to disappear and turn your thermostat into a brick because Google decided the Nest line is dead. Not 100% sure that servers will disappear in a few years, they might keep the servers on looonnng after the products themselves are no longer updated, but tbh seems like a bad idea to buy it just on the off-chance it’ll still work in a few years. I’m definitely open to smart home stuff, I just want to make sure it’ll actually carry on working after I buy it. e: I picked the male Siri voice because it sort of sounds like the voice from a Pendulum track. Surprise T Rex fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 25, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:00
|
|
|
I love my Alexa, it means I can voice control the lights in my house like in Demolition Man
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:10
|
|
|
I have zero idea how people are ok with paying bezos to listen to their conversations. Smart phones are bad enough
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:15
|
|
|
jiggerypokery posted:I have zero idea how people are ok with paying bezos to listen to their conversations. I don’t have interesting enough conversations for anyone to give a gently caress about them
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:24
|
|
|
My phone is Huawei, and if Beijing want to listen to me and my partner talk about the cat and what's for dinner that's fine by me. Have at it.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:28
|
|
|
Nowadays it's more like Tech Enthusiast: Nest is bad because the frame protocol in the application layer is vulnerable to overflow injection attack vectors Tech Worker: Nest is bad because the US one doesn't do wireless and the Euro one doesn't do cold
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:28
|
|
|
The Perfect Element posted:Also the default voice for all digital servants is female, which is #problematic!!! There used to be a Brian Blessed GPS theme (Garmin?). Get him to do some lines for the digital assistants.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:32
|
|
|
The voice on my macbook is set to angry Scottish lady, who tells me harshly when my battery is low, and when I just yank a USB stick out without ejecting first.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:34
|
|
|
Guavanaut posted:Nowadays it's more like Tbf most euro houses don't have central a/c, and Google hasn't cracked how to make your boiler do cold
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:36
|
|
|
Z the IVth posted:There used to be a Brian Blessed GPS theme (Garmin?). Get him to do some lines for the digital assistants. There used to be a Bonnie Tyler GPS theme as well, but it kept saying "turn around" and every now and then, it fell apart.
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:40
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:There isn't strictly anything stopping you from saying please and thankyou to the robot except your own self consciousness. They even acknowledge it when you do
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:41
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:Tbf most euro houses don't have central a/c, and Google hasn't cracked how to make your boiler do cold
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 07:58 |
|
|
The commissions editor for Guardian Labs (the Guardian's advertorial section) had a spectacular Twitter meltdown that may have got her and her company into some fairly significant legal trouble. https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1551470844144238593?s=21&t=BZ_9mzY5tPW_SG9qrmZayw
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2022 08:47
|
|