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Tesseraction posted:On the other hand, if Mookie were to retell the original Dominic Deegan today... oh Christ. Dear Lord, it would be horrific. The misshaped vulvas, the lumpy dongs, the obvious tracing. I'm sorry but frankly nothing has made me realise how much he has failed to improve than imagining him retelling his own story with the benefit of knowing the whole plot in advance.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Ah yes, totally normal for a deaf person to have absolutely no spatial awareness and go running off for no reason. That's not insulting or belittling to an entire real-world community, no. Seriously. Imagine a tasteless but not openly malicious depiction of a cognitively impaired person from the 90s or 80s in a comic. Other than talking more, how would they differ from Snout? Like Mookie seriously seems to believe 'deafness' and 'cognitive impairment' are interchangeable conditions judging by how he handles deafness. Like imagine someone as ham-handed as him writing a mentally handicapped character and ask yourself sincerely how that would differ from Snout? Or how an impulsive child protagonist would differ from Snout besides - one would hope - less loving and nudity. Mookie has written an offensive depiction of a person with an intellectual disability and tried, poorly, to pass it off as an offensive depiction of a deaf person.
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Kainda gets some of this too, at least before she's healed by the sunflower. She cries and screams all night, and won't keep her clothes on!
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Zereth posted:He wouldn't, though, precisely because of knowing the whole plot in advance. He likes to sit down at his drawing table and then be surprised at where the plot goes. He's improvising and every strip is the first draft of that day's plot, which is why we have poo poo like the mystery of why people gave a flying gently caress about the pages, why ink witch's ship was so ominous tracking her and blew up snout's house, etc. Oh exactly, but that's why I was thinking about the "bonus content" he'd add in between story beats. Stuff that would make an already bad comic worse, and not in a funny way.
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Trapezium Dave posted:That is a weird art edit to make some kind of ramp in panel 4. Oh my god, the reason his trees and grass and mountains and poo poo are so weird loving looking is because they're just textures that have been lasso tooled. It's literally just perlin noise I think, one sec
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It's some kind of brush that he was, IIRC, initially only using for Ink Magic related poo poo but then he started using it for vegetation too
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Seriously. Imagine a tasteless but not openly malicious depiction of a cognitively impaired person from the 90s or 80s in a comic. Other than talking more, how would they differ from Snout? Like Mookie seriously seems to believe 'deafness' and 'cognitive impairment' are interchangeable conditions judging by how he handles deafness. Like imagine someone as ham-handed as him writing a mentally handicapped character and ask yourself sincerely how that would differ from Snout? Or how an impulsive child protagonist would differ from Snout besides - one would hope - less loving and nudity. I don't think he realises this though. He is trying to pass Snout off as kind, and because there is a fuzzy line between naivete/innocence and kindness he thinks that portrayals of the former suggest the latter. He writes Snout as someone with a primal, immature fondness for nature because he thinks that it's related to that trait. He just doesn't seem to be able to process how weird it is when he combines these childish characteristics with a disabled character who fucks. I legitimately think he put all these pieces together with purpose while simultaneously not realising the stereotype he's reconstructed, like a person putting together a jigsaw puzzle upside down, not realising what the completed image looks from the other side.
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ScienceSeagull posted:Kainda gets some of this too, at least before she's healed by the sunflower. She cries and screams all night, and won't keep her clothes on! If I wanted to see that I'd turn my monitor off.
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Zereth posted:It's some kind of brush that he was, IIRC, initially only using for Ink Magic related poo poo but then he started using it for vegetation too I feel like he's so excited to discover these brushes that he thinks make him a skilled artist, when the only uses for those brushes has ever been 1990s website backgrounds and little kids playing with Photoshop like it's Kidpix
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YF-23 posted:I don't think he realises this though. He is trying to pass Snout off as kind, and because there is a fuzzy line between naivete/innocence and kindness he thinks that portrayals of the former suggest the latter. He writes Snout as someone with a primal, immature fondness for nature because he thinks that it's related to that trait. He just doesn't seem to be able to process how weird it is when he combines these childish characteristics with a disabled character who fucks. I legitimately think he put all these pieces together with purpose while simultaneously not realising the stereotype he's reconstructed, like a person putting together a jigsaw puzzle upside down, not realising what the completed image looks from the other side. 
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Yep. I feel like if you want to depict a character who is truly, exceptionally kind in a way that surprises others and rallies them around the character, and not just "innocent", it works better to have someone who
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And there’s room for that with Snout, we see him living alone, no family, no apparent friends, no ties to the community whatsoever (except he has definitely had sex before) so that is a thread worth pursuing. You figure at some point someone would ask him about it. But Mookie doesn’t care and so neither do any of the characters.
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you'd think in all their librarying maybe someone would find a book about sign language and we could move on from gigantic written infodumps
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A competent author might have learned a bit of sign language and incorporated into their comic
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And a webcomic would be perfect for that because you'd only be able to do one word of the sentence, so you'd have sign language representation without having to learn the entire language. E and you'd always have something interesting for the hands to do.
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Boba Pearl posted:And a webcomic would be perfect for that because you'd only be able to do one word of the sentence, so you'd have sign language representation without having to learn the entire language. What's that? Drawing out every single word of the sentence as individual panels with minimal differences between them? Why, even at eight panels a day that could drag an exposition scene out for weeks! Genius!
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Moola posted:competent The eternal insurmountable hurdle of Mookie.
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Dabir posted:What's that? Drawing out every single word of the sentence as individual panels with minimal differences between them? Why, even at eight panels a day that could drag an exposition scene out for weeks! Genius! anyone who wants to draw that many hands has earned it, or needs to be arrested
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Lunatic Sledge posted:anyone who wants to draw that many hands has earned it, or needs to be arrested Trace that many hands! 
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Moola posted:A competent author might have learned a bit of sign language and incorporated into their comic He wouldn't even have to do that! He could just draw random hand signs and say that's what sign language is in this world. It's at least plausible that a fantasy world wouldn't use ASL. But nope apparently there's absolutely no way for deaf people to communicate in Mookie's world. What a shame.
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You know, I wonder if Mookie drew the Ink Witch's ink ship with a riveted hull and wing flaps in exactly one chapter because he hadn't drawn it in a year and a half and had actually forgotten that it wasn't a mechanical device.
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It does seem like Mookie had a little self awareness when Snout hosed the bog witch, since he threw in that part about "This happens every time I have sex" to let us know that no, Snout totally has sex all the time you guys, the bog witch totally did not seduce a childlike character.
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poo poo you can't just turn him into Booga, the love interest Ripper from Tank Girl! There oughta be a law!
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Suddenly the white mist descends into the valley obscuring all the horizon except for arudaks_tower.jpg.
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Awww, the smell of flowers reminds him of his physical abuser. How sweet.
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The second panel makes it look like he's taking a poo poo in the grass. I still laugh at that tower design. It's a dildo with a secondary one for the rear end. With veins and everything.
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You've been away for like five minutes
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Panel 1 Snout is in the same pose as panel 4 Ethan in loss.jpg
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I'd love to beat snout's rear end
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Figure 56. Emotional Codependency
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Snout's been away for two pages but in Mookie's mind it's like he's been away for several days. Because that's how long it's been since he drew those two pages. The pacing for this comic is probably completely hosed if you just read it all in one go, but I don't want to test that theory.
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I mean let's be real the pacing is hosed if you read it update by update. Just utter poo poo. I really hope his idiot patrons start complaining about the glacial pace in enough numbers to make him change because it's been three loving years and he's done enough plot to maybe cover 4 months of updates.
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You can see the cutoff where he pasted the tower in
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yeah actually they will posted:I'd love to beat snout's rear end Misread that at first.
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Libra posted:Snout's been away for two pages but in Mookie's mind it's like he's been away for several days. Because that's how long it's been since he drew those two pages. Kinda like the relationship Snout's pining about here. Like name literally anything about any of the non-Snout party members that isn't part of their ~*tragic backstory*~. Like what kind of problem would you go to Kaianda for help with? What's her uniquely Kaianda-like way of responding to things? What kind of things does she enjoy doing? Like let's say it's her birthday. What would she want as a gift? What would be a terrible gift? How would she react to either of those? And, I mean, name anything Snout and Kaianda have done together that's not quest-related. Like there was an entire vacation arc, and Snout spent nearly the entire thing by himself. And then when he was shown hanging out with Kaianda, what did they do?  Literally nothing. In the most recent page Mookie is making an appeal to some nebulous and idyllic relationship Snout and Kaianda are presumed to have, but whatever constitutes that relationship is really never depicted in the comic.
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Still can't get over Ink Witch just flashing her groin to the ocean.
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It's a clothing optional formless white void.
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Now because I know what Mookie's like I'm am almost certain it's traced from a picture of a woman receiving cunnilingus, hence the open legs and not how people would sit while wearing a dress. Also explains the more accurate breast position than her usual gravity defying depictions.
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