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Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Jesus who cares lol. It’s a Kid’s gag cartoon about bunnies. I watched it for 10 years of my life as it originally aired and could never have told you they were “dating.” It doesn’t matter. The “no relation” gag changes to “some relation.” Done.

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Larryb posted:

I believe they go on a date in one episode and there’s at least one instance where Babs explicitly refers to Buster as her boyfriend but otherwise yeah, I don’t remember the show doing much in regards to actual romance between the two

Iirc, there's an episode where we see Bab's family to where she has a truckload of siblings. Buster otoh was an only child or had like one sibling

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
It is kind of great those two posts opened the page.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Xelkelvos posted:

Iirc, there's an episode where we see Bab's family to where she has a truckload of siblings. Buster otoh was an only child or had like one sibling

I can't believe they would mess with such sacred lore like this

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Off that subject, I’ve also been hearing that the new Tiny Toons may be slightly more serialized than the old one instead of just random shorts (not sure how true that’s going to wind up being though)

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

And on another note I’m thinking of checking out the Big Hero 6 cartoon. Is there anything worthwhile about the third season or is it best to just stop after Legacies?

I also started watching The Ghost & Molly McGee recently, it’s pretty charming honestly and having Ashly Burch and Dana Snyder together in the same show is a treat

Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jul 25, 2022

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Larryb posted:

And on another note I’m thinking of checking out the Big Hero 6 cartoon. Is there anything worthwhile about the third season or is it best to just stop after Legacies?

I also started watching The Ghost & Molly McGee recently, it’s pretty charming honestly and having Ashly Burch and Dana Snyder together in the same show is a treat
I'd say the last season is about on the same level as the rest of them. Certainly not something you'd intentionally avoid because it retroactively makes the beginning bad.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

cant cook creole bream posted:

I'd say the last season is about on the same level as the rest of them. Certainly not something you'd intentionally avoid because it retroactively makes the beginning bad.

Ah ok, I had heard the show goes downhill a bit during the final season and from the description on the wiki the Season 2 finale seems like it could have worked as a natural stopping point for the series. Good to know then (or was that last bit sarcasm, I couldn’t really tell)

Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jul 25, 2022

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Hope the Tiny Toons reboot brings back the kennedy kick dance.

Space Robot
Sep 3, 2011

They could just change the "no relation" joke to meaning they aren't related to Bugs Bunny.

Or they could be step siblings.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Space Robot posted:

They could just change the "no relation" joke to meaning they aren't related to Bugs Bunny.

Or they could be step siblings.

One of the staff members specifically said they were twins in this series

It’s interesting they’re keeping Fifi around though considering Pepe’s basically been retired at this point last I heard (then again I don’t remember her being quite as extreme as her Looney Tunes counterpart even in the 90’s show)

I’m also curious if they’re going to put Lola in this somehow (hopefully sticking closer to the Looney Tunes Show version if they do)

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

will babs and buster gently caress

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Help me, step-rabbit! I’m stuck in this train tunnel I painted on the side of a cliff!

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Twincest was not what I expected in the Tiny Toons reboot.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I didn't actually see many episodes of Tiny Toons as a kid, since I grew up on VHS tapes, but one of the episodes was about how prom was coming up and Babs was annoyed that Buster hadn't asked her yet, so I guess that stands out to me more than it does others.

Fifi LeFume comes off differently than Pepe LePew, because there's a lot less worries of female on male sexual assault compared to male on female, and also she and Shirley gave Babs friends to hang out with in a separate friendgroup than Buster. Maybe they'll try connecting Shirley Loon with Daffy's girlfriend from The Looney Tune Show. I guess there's also that character who was based on Foghorn Leghorn whose whole bit was swearing, wonder if he'll show up and do anything. Maybe Mary Melody will do something beyond being a background character.

Come to think of it, if they're in college, is Elmyra going to be a lot different?

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

SlothfulCobra posted:

I didn't actually see many episodes of Tiny Toons as a kid, since I grew up on VHS tapes, but one of the episodes was about how prom was coming up and Babs was annoyed that Buster hadn't asked her yet, so I guess that stands out to me more than it does others.

Fifi LeFume comes off differently than Pepe LePew, because there's a lot less worries of female on male sexual assault compared to male on female, and also she and Shirley gave Babs friends to hang out with in a separate friendgroup than Buster. Maybe they'll try connecting Shirley Loon with Daffy's girlfriend from The Looney Tune Show. I guess there's also that character who was based on Foghorn Leghorn whose whole bit was swearing, wonder if he'll show up and do anything. Maybe Mary Melody will do something beyond being a background character.

Come to think of it, if they're in college, is Elmyra going to be a lot different?

No sign of her or Montana Max yet at least.

Also reportedly Shirley was in fact inspired by Melissa (who's been around longer than the Looney Tunes show apparently and if this article is correct will also be appearing in Looniversity]r:

https://warnerbros.fandom.com/wiki/Melissa_Duck

Gogo Dodo from the original was also inspired by a character from an old short called Porky In Wackyland (and according to one of the creators is apparently the son of the dodo from said short)

Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jul 25, 2022

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Both Elmyra and Montana Max are in the promo art

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Macaluso posted:

Both Elmyra and Montana Max are in the promo art

Ah, in that case I wonder if they're going to make the former any less irritating in the reboot (Ducktales 2017 successfully turned Webby into a good character after all)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Space Robot posted:

They could just change the "no relation" joke to meaning they aren't related to Bugs Bunny.

I always thought that's what the joke was referring to.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

https://twitter.com/vas_90s/status/...ingawful.com%2F

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Dawgstar posted:

I always thought that's what the joke was referring to.

:same:

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Big “Have You Ever Seen A Man Say Goodbye to A Shoe?” “Yes, Once,” energy

Whitenoise Poster
Mar 26, 2010

I think I've mentioned it before in this very thread. But I've listened to a bunch of podcasts that's just groups of friends going through old shows and talking about them. The first I heard of were some people going through All of Power Rangers, and then things like digimon, totally spies, the spy kids movies, ect. Usually with a mix of big childhood fans and people seeing it for the first time more or less.

And now in the year 2022, where we have had 420,000 reboots in a less than a decade. I think it would be an interesting gimmick for a watch/rewatch podcast to get a group of friends together pick one of these shows and go through both the original and the reboot simultaneously. Compare and contrast and such.

This is a solid gold idea that will be a big hit if anyone pulls it off. I expect a shoutout and at least 1% of the profits for the service of providing this quite frankly brilliant concept if anyone actually goes through with it.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
https://twitter.com/cartoonbrew/status/1552048164873670663

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010


The video’s already been taken down it seems but it appears someone reuploaded it here:

https://archive.org/details/popeye-animatic-2013

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

This is really, really cool and I'm glad we got to see it.

...aaaaand I also kind of see why it didn't get greenlit.

It's got charm and it's clearly a labor of love but the writing is clumsy as hell and a lot of the dialogue feels like placeholder language that bluntly states motivations and exposition rather than showing things more organically. There's also several pretty severe structural issues to the plot like how the Sea Hag and Bluto just don't have much to do and the later never even gets a proper fight with Popeye despite him literally being Popeye's main antagonist. I'm sure some of these problems would have been addressed in the normal revision processes that happen when these movies get made but there are a lot of them and many run fairly deep meaning the rewrites would need to be fairly substantial. Also the movie does that thing where it crowbars in modern music for montages and such and it's just as distracting here as it is in every other kid's film that does this.

Mostly though I'm just not sure how an audience not familiar with the source material would react to this even in it's ideal state. It's a loving homage to cartoons from the 40s but I'm not sure anybody under 30 would understand that genre of animation and it's sense of humor enough to appreciate it. I mean, were Popeye reruns even on TV anytime in the last 20 years? Without understanding it's roots I suspect a lot of the film's choices (like the talking sea animals) might just come across as weird or random.


It would have looked great though. Even in this state the backgrounds are really cool and you can tell the action scenes would have been a hoot. It probably wouldn't have been a masterpiece but I can see the final result being worth the price of admission on the visuals alone. Probably just above the Hotel Transylvania movies (which while not amazing are better than people give them credit for).

Definitely check it out if you haven't yet. It's fun despite my issues with it and it's rare you get to see this kind of thing.

readingatwork fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jul 27, 2022

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Off the subject, we’ve got a little more info on the upcoming Chibiverse show (which based on the little teaser might possibly contain actual voice acting):

https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/2022/07/24/chibiverse-trailer/

Disney also recently dropped a sneak peek of The Ghost & Molly McGee Season 2 along with some promo images (no release date yet as far as I’m aware though):

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/amp/news/disney-the-ghost-and-molly-mcgee-season-2-clip-sdcc-2022/

And in live action ATLA news, it appears an old friend will be returning:

https://twitter.com/AvatarNews_/status/1551999544988016641

Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jul 27, 2022

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Larryb posted:

The video’s already been taken down it seems but it appears someone reuploaded it here:

https://archive.org/details/popeye-animatic-2013

This one's dead too. Someone really does not wants this out and about

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Yet more proof that piracy is not only morally justified but necessary.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Anther day, another episode of The Loud House:

readingatwork posted:

Season 1, Episode 13A: Overnight Success

Season 1, Episode 13B: Ties That Bind
Written by Karla Sakas Shropshire
Storyboard by Miguel Puga
Directed by Chris Savino

Synopsis: Lincoln overhears his parents talking about throwing out his Dad's ties through the bathroom vent and comes to believe that his parents are planning to get rid of the kids. He tells his sisters and after hearing another vaguely worded conversation they decide they believe him. They try being on their best behavior in the hopes that it will change their parent's minds and it seems to be working until Lincoln overhears another conversation making it sound like they will keep just one kid. Determined to be the one that stays Lincoln starts sucking up but is quickly caught and called out. The siblings hear yet another cryptic conversation and now it seems like only Lincoln is the one to go. The siblings band together and confront their parents only to be told the truth and realize that they were being huge dumbasses. No longer thinking the family is breaking up life goes back to normal and no lesson is learned.

Thoughts: I don't know, maybe the show just caught me in the right mood but the humor felt a few notches better than usual in this one. Not spectacular by any stretch but it got several solid chuckles out of me. Even Leni's one personality trait of being an idiot kind of works for once. Also, against all odds I don't hate the premise like I thought I would. Yes, everybody is being unreasonably dumb but it's framed as a sort of insane kid logic rather than what we'd actually see were this situation to happen so it kind of works despite everybody being a bit to eager to throw their siblings under the buss.

Beyond that its just sort of a basic episode. Not much to write home about, particularly compared to most other cartoons, but by this show's standards it was pretty alright.

Themes and morals: This one is less of a morality tale and more a vague set of wacky misunderstandings. The most I can pull from it is a warning against the dangers of eavesdropping but even that's pretty tenuous and undermined by the fact that the kids were probably justified in listening for more details once being kicked out of the house was on the table.

I suppose you could also draw some kind of moral from the way Lincoln threw his sisters under the buss when he thought he was going to be an only child (he really comes out of this episode looking like an rear end in a top hat) and how it's contrasted with his sisters standing by him to confront his parents, which was kind of nice tbh. However the weird cartoon logic of everything kind of robs the episode of any stakes and by extension any real emotional impact or thematic value.

But whatever, the writers were just trying to have some fun and more or less succeeded so I won't complain that the episode isn't particularly deep.

Notable moment: This episode contains the exceptionaly rare occurrence of a Luan gag that's actually funny.



Final thoughts: This episode starts by focusing on other siblings and then has Lincoln come in later as a side character before properly becoming the protagonist a couple minutes in. It made me realize how neat it would be to have an episode where he's a supporting character in one of his sister's stories. Bonus points if they walk in on him narrating an episode that happens later in the season.

Final Rating: Good


Fake Edit: I came across this clip on twitter the other day and it's interesting to compare Clarence to The Loud House because they're both pretty similar in a lot of ways (relatively grounded slice of life suburban comedies made by people who suck).

https://twitter.com/cartoonsonghard/status/1551651140399513602?s=20&t=zdmyOJ-qHaottvenv7zhQQ

The key difference I think is that Clarence actually draws a lot of it's humor from interesting observations drawn from reality while The Loud House is mainly drawing from other shows. You can really see this in how it handle's Jeff (the square headed one) and his various mannerisms. Every little thing he does from the way he drops the bat repeatedly to the perplexed looks he gives is fantastic in a way that feels both clever and authentic. Compare this to Clyde who is in many ways the same sheltered nerd (complete with gay parents) but just doesn't work because all his humor is drawn from broad cliches.

God damnit, now I want to see a TLH episode written by the Clarence team. That would be incredible.

readingatwork fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jul 29, 2022

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
Yet another show with a problematic creator.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

That guy was fired from Clarence almost immediately if I’m remembering things right.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
He was fired pretty quickly, and the kinder sensibilities were done in SPITE of him, who originally described the main character with the r-word.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

I AM GRANDO posted:

That guy was fired from Clarence almost immediately if I’m remembering things right.

In his case it was also a matter of him having a mental breakdown if I'm remembering the right guy

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
It was all those things! It was quite a fukken debacle! He had to be escorted from the studio and everything.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

He was on a psych ward for a while, without a clear sense that he would necessarily get any better.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo
Anyone heard anything about Hamster and Gretal?

Whitenoise Poster
Mar 26, 2010

It's got an art style that reminds me of all the ai generated youtube videos that caused all the new regulations to be put on youtube kids content.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


So the first episode of chibiverse is online, and it's pretty good. Looks like they save the voice acting for the framing device, though.

But then they mixed up what instrument Anne & Marcy play in their band at the end. Ruined forever! :colbert:

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Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Yvonmukluk posted:

So the first episode of chibiverse is online, and it's pretty good. Looks like they save the voice acting for the framing device, though.

But then they mixed up what instrument Anne & Marcy play in their band at the end. Ruined forever! :colbert:

So who got a voice in the first episode out of curiosity and was it their usual actor/actress doing it?

Also how long are these episodes on average and how are they set up?

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