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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I managed to completely miss the Dominaria preview article last week, but there is one thing I have to get off my chest Please do tell us the correct diet of the magical golden goose that can channel mana
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Eggs, right?
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I managed to completely miss the Dominaria preview article last week, but there is one thing I have to get off my chest I don't want to live in a world without carnivorous golden goslings
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Jul 25, 2022 13:57
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What's the correct number of land destruction spells for ponza? 8? 10? Going to mess around with RG midrange some more, no ragavans, W6 or seasoned pyro. Is it worth cutting BBE/chandras and obstinate baloths in the side to jam obosh? It removes post board enchantment removal as well (Cindervines/force of vigor) but I figure 2 boseiju might be be enough anyway.
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Jul 25, 2022 14:00
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:This is not how geese work, at all. I bet that fish was thinking that too and look where it ended up!!
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Jul 25, 2022 14:11
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Geese do eat fish though, rarely.
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Jul 25, 2022 14:13
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VIOLENT J: loving geese, how do they work
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Jul 25, 2022 14:14
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Stickers look hilarious and I can't wait to draft that set. I will shoehorn them into every deck they could possibly work in. I don't even have a legacy deck but what's a cheap one so that I can shove some stickers into it and win games by giving my opponents brain aneurysms when they see me pull out my sticker pile and start shuffling?
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Jul 25, 2022 14:24
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A Moose posted:Stickers look hilarious and I can't wait to draft that set. I will shoehorn them into every deck they could possibly work in. I don't even have a legacy deck but what's a cheap one so that I can shove some stickers into it and win games by giving my opponents brain aneurysms when they see me pull out my sticker pile and start shuffling? Burn most likely. Or nic fit without dual lands?
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Jul 25, 2022 14:31
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A Moose posted:Stickers look hilarious and I can't wait to draft that set. I will shoehorn them into every deck they could possibly work in. I don't even have a legacy deck but what's a cheap one so that I can shove some stickers into it and win games by giving my opponents brain aneurysms when they see me pull out my sticker pile and start shuffling? People are already having brain aneurysms just thinking about stickers, imagine what'll happen when they actually exist. Do you even need to have the sticker-caring cards in your deck to play a sticker pile? Can you walk up with a stock Legacy deck and shuffle up stickers before each game? Is it now ~OPTIMAL~ to have stickers before every game of Vintage? Are commander players going to shriek and moan that they are obligated to bring yet more crap to the table?? I'm excited for what this means for eternal formats. Lone Goat fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Jul 25, 2022 15:14
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I managed to completely miss the Dominaria preview article last week, but there is one thing I have to get off my chest geese...lay eggs right? for flavor they should have given the goose a sac for value ability
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Jul 25, 2022 15:55
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The Nastier Nate posted:geese...lay eggs right? it's a reprint from eldraine and it's one of the better mana dorks printed into standard in a long time
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Jul 25, 2022 16:07
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I mean, wasn’t it one of the main reasons Oko murdered the standard format at the time (before he got banned obviously) Turn two pw with 6 loyalty is a hell of a thing (and I didn’t even have to look up the 6 loyalty thing because i remember he didn’t die to fry)
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Jul 25, 2022 16:45
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The goose itself was fine, everything around it (Once Upon A Time, Oko, the color Green in general) was the problem
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Jul 25, 2022 16:52
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now I think about it more, if Oko started at 3 loyalty instead of 4 do you think he would've managed to avoid completely wrecking standard? Starting at 3 means he would still die to fry after ticking up for food, which means that noxious grasp would no longer be the only real way to deal with a resolved oko. And since veil of summer doesn't work against red spells, perhaps that means fry would actually have been better at dealing with him than noxious grasp
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Jul 25, 2022 16:53
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Oko would have been acceptable if literally all of his stats were different, correct.
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Jul 25, 2022 17:00
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Froghammer posted:The goose itself was fine, everything around it (Once Upon A Time, Oko, the color Green in general) was the problem I also agree. Goose needs a lot of things to line up to be playable and everything did. I still love once upon a time and I wish it was never banned. It was just green when green was too good.
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Jul 25, 2022 17:09
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kurona_bright posted:now I think about it more, if Oko started at 3 loyalty instead of 4 do you think he would've managed to avoid completely wrecking standard? Starting at 3 means he would still die to fry after ticking up for food, which means that noxious grasp would no longer be the only real way to deal with a resolved oko. And since veil of summer doesn't work against red spells, perhaps that means fry would actually have been better at dealing with him than noxious grasp Ticking up for defense on a 3 mana walker is too good for standard.
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Jul 25, 2022 17:57
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HootTheOwl posted:Ticking up for defense on a 3 mana walker is too good for standard. Repeatable beast within at 3 is too good for standard
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Jul 25, 2022 18:01
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Sickening posted:I also agree. Goose needs a lot of things to line up to be playable and everything did. Imo every colour should have a OUAT effect for a spell type that colour cares about and a land.
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Jul 25, 2022 18:03
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Oko being killable a bit easier doesnt change enough tbh, the cards abilities are too good and werent properly balanced (it is absurd that the turn to elk is a plus instead of a minus)
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Jul 25, 2022 18:04
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fadam posted:Imo every colour should have a OUAT effect for a spell type that colour cares about and a land. When I playtested Eldraine OUAT, instead of letting you look at the top five, name land or nonland then flip your library till you hit a card of the appropriate type. It was so sweet.
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Jul 25, 2022 18:16
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:When I playtested Eldraine OUAT, instead of letting you look at the top five, name land or nonland then flip your library till you hit a card of the appropriate type. It was so sweet. So they just gave it a different name then and made that card. 
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Jul 25, 2022 18:23
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Yeah but it kept the free casting cost.
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Jul 25, 2022 18:27
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fadam posted:Imo every colour should have a OUAT effect for a spell type that colour cares about and a land. Yes! I still feel the card was/is balanced. When the card is at its full power, its great! When you are casting it for 2 cmc, its meh. It led to more playable games of magic which was the point of the card to begin with. It died for the sins of the blizzard staff.
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Jul 25, 2022 19:10
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Katana Gomai posted:I'm saying that there will be some "turbo sticker" archetype in legacy and/or vintage and it will be busted. lol
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Jul 25, 2022 19:20
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mandatory lesbian posted:Oko being killable a bit easier doesnt change enough tbh, the cards abilities are too good and werent properly balanced (it is absurd that the turn to elk is a plus instead of a minus) 3 Loyalty, +1/-1/-5 should've been okos stats
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Jul 25, 2022 19:29
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They should have given Oko Split Second and made his +1 you win the game
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I’ve never seen anyone bluff in legacy by bringing a bunch of dungeons cards they don’t need, something to track energy they don’t use, bringing and revealing a box filled with ability counters they can’t use, spending a sideboard slot on a pointless companion to reveal, pretending like they have a pregame action they eventually decline to take, asking for a storm count after every action, doing the annoying miracle draw thing, etc. This world people are imagining where players are going to do a bunch of annoying poo poo for a slight percentage increase only exists for Reddit guys who post about Magic more than they actually play. I was pretty cold on them, but idk I don’t think Stickers are going to matter for 99% of the people who play this game, but for the people who REALLY like Stickers I’m glad they can play them in their low power edh games without having to beg permission.
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Jul 25, 2022 19:36
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Been playing esper food in modern and I am 26-4 with it. Feels so good in this meta
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Time posted:Been playing esper food in modern and I am 26-4 with it. Feels so good in this meta That’s the Time Sieve build?
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fadam posted:I’ve never seen anyone bluff in legacy by bringing a bunch of dungeons cards they don’t need, something to track energy they don’t use, bringing and revealing a box filled with ability counters they can’t use, spending a sideboard slot on a pointless companion to reveal, pretending like they have a pregame action they eventually decline to take, asking for a storm count after every action, doing the annoying miracle draw thing, etc. Mark rosewater also said they deliberately costed them not to see competitive play: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/690702738865225729/has-wotc-considered-separating-commander-and quote:We were very conservative with the costing of the eternal cards. I'm not saying nothing could end up getting played (maybe weird interactions create something new), but nothing was close to being pushed. We don't expect Unfinity to have a big impact on Legacy and Vintage. A lot of this concern is more hypothetical than practical.
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fadam posted:That’s the Time Sieve build? Yup. the 4 color decks fold to it and it goes infinite from boardstates you can’t anticipate without hand information so it’s scooping a lot of “free” wins rn
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Hey, it's everyone's favorite Bryan Cibblar playing Magic: The Gathering old Standard with Voxy from Twitch. Prof sporting a very good Fedora. https://youtu.be/ewNy3ylRZdE
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fadam posted:I’ve never seen anyone bluff in legacy by bringing a bunch of dungeons cards they don’t need, something to track energy they don’t use, bringing and revealing a box filled with ability counters they can’t use, spending a sideboard slot on a pointless companion to reveal, pretending like they have a pregame action they eventually decline to take, asking for a storm count after every action, doing the annoying miracle draw thing, etc. Back when scars just was printed and people were having their inkmoths go Berserk people would set down a poison marker even if they weren't on infect.
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Maro talked to the Rules Manager about why Far Out can't be Eternal https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/markrosewater/690779081740075008?source=share It's because some modal cards would break. The example they gave is Outlaw's Meriment  Because of the way its worded, it would create a token that is 3/1, 2/1, and 1/2 at the same time.
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It would also probably break the Confluence modal cycles as well.
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Framboise posted:It would also probably break the Confluence modal cycles as well. I think it works with those, you just get to do each option once (or only one or two once if you wanted to). It seems like it's just the power/toughness setting that causes contradictions and they could have come up with a ruling to address it if they really wanted it to work.
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They can probably fix that one card, but then in the future they want to make another card with contradictory modes and they'd be like "ugh that goddamn joke card from years ago has hosed us again"
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Qwertycoatl posted:They can probably fix that one card, but then in the future they want to make another card with contradictory modes and they'd be like "ugh that goddamn joke card from years ago has hosed us again" Yeah, thats what Maro said in that interview
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