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`Nemesis posted:uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I mean I want it but it seems like the pipiest of pipe dreams.
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But Why just one giant line? Unless they extend it to wrap around the planet, then it's back to being cool.
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Jul 26, 2022 15:54
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Oh wow, the world was waiting for another Kowloon City.
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Jul 26, 2022 16:02
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Love watching countries spend billions on a place that will be too hot to live in a decade.
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I for one welcome Floating Tree Technology Also I do wonder how well that heat exchange would work when the sun is sometimes directly above The Wall
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Oh neat, another arcology project! Those are always fun to think about.Arrath posted:But You want it thin for surface area reasons, which also relate to things like human sanity -- being buried inside of a huge building and never seeing the outdoors is bad for peoples' brains. So a thin structure gives more windows. It also probably simplifies climate control (getting heat out of the center of a big building requires more plumbing), which is good because this thing is going to be an absolute nightmare to keep temperate in its apparently-planned location. Why it's a line instead of a ring or some other curve, though, I have no idea. I mean, certain curves are a bad idea due to the whole "turning the sun into a reflected death beam" issue that certain skyscrapers have had, but you'd think they might follow the coastline or something at least.
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So they're just going to build a wall with no way for things like wildlife to get by, or anywhere for dirt and sand to go other than to pile up beside it?
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You're talking as if this horrendously expensive project would actually happen rather than fizzle out when nobody is looking. I wish we had actual arcologies and other mega scale habitats.
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Jul 26, 2022 17:46
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All I could think about was how a hundred mile wall of mirrored glass taller than the Empire State Building is going to be, uh, extremely bad for birds. Also, will there be underpasses for ground-based wildlife? A giant wall is going to disrupt their movements.  And what about wind and sand movement? It's basically a giant (and impervious-looking) windbreak. Then I got digging around retro-futuristic arcology poo poo and megastructures and it turns out the city on a line with transportation concept is not remotely new:  Another project to watch in this general realm of dense megastructure concepts is that crazy windowless dorm building going up at UCSB (the building itself has windows and the exterior is actually quite nice-looking, but the dorm rooms themselves do not have windows).
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It's slightly less dumb than snowpiercer. At least this isn't on rails. But what if the line...wrapped around into a circle! That would be even more efficient! And you could use the space inside the circle while the line functioned as a sort of outer wall protecting the inside!
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Buttchocks posted:It's slightly less dumb than snowpiercer. At least this isn't on rails. Given that you also want this integrated with some sort of transport system, wouldn't it make sense to make many smaller circles, maybe laid out in some sort of grid? Of course, you'd get better use of the space if you made them square instead of circular, though at the cost of having to deal with corner rooms.
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Arcologies are cool ideas, but I'm not sure how well that one will work.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Love watching countries spend billions on a place that will be too hot to live in a decade. I'm fine watching the Saudis pour money into pipe dream projects that won't go anywhere. Beats them using it to buy more missiles from Rathyon to kill people in Yemen at least. Or murdering journalists. Or really anything else they do with their money.
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Jul 26, 2022 19:50
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Those mirrored glass windows are going to be matte frosted glass after the first sandstorm hits it.
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Lol no need for wildlife crossings because there is basically no life in Saudi Arabia
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deserts have lots of life, especially near large bodies of water, and in fact desert wildlife rules a lot take a look at the choice real estate this is supposed to be slicing through
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After seeing a few of the abortions in this thread, I will share with you what I posted in the HVAC thread. I found this under my house (doube-wide) ... no wonder why it was always cold or warm under the place when the AC/heat was running.    
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Love watching countries spend billions on a place that will be too hot to live in a decade. They have a plan for that, too. Huge rear end lakes to generate a microclimate. I have no idea whether it can work, I'm reasonably sure it won't work, but it would be pretty cool if it did. This past winter in Riyadh was very wet. All the English language sources I could find said it was record levels of precipitation and everyone I spoke to between locals and long term expats said it was unusual, and the general consensus among people was all the green spaces were having an effect. Obviously, I can't gauge how much of that is propaganda and how much might just be global warming induced climate change, but weird things are happening in the desert. Don't get me wrong, all the poor people are going to get left behind, dissidents will still get their heads chopped off for quite a while yet, and the country will collapse if they really kick out all the foreign laborers by 2030. But it's not that much different from, say, the US moonshot.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Why it's a line instead of a ring or some other curve, though, I have no idea. Have you seen the netflix documentary "Snowpiercer"? e/ serious answer, it's not about making sense, it's about the spectacle. Same reason Burj Khalifa has a convoy of septic tankers go in and out every day instead of real plumbing Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jul 26, 2022 |
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Um, 170km long, and able to get from one end to the other in 20 minutes? That seems a bit much. If I remember my high school physics, assuming linear acceleration to midpoint, then same decel to destination, wouldn’t that put the vehicle at like 1000km/hr at the midpoint?
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Jul 26, 2022 22:35
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Look the spec didn't specify whether the passenger had to arrive alive, or in form of a paste against the bulkhead. Just the travel time.
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Orvin posted:Um, 170km long, and able to get from one end to the other in 20 minutes? That seems a bit much. If I remember my high school physics, assuming linear acceleration to midpoint, then same decel to destination, wouldn’t that put the vehicle at like 1000km/hr at the midpoint? Maybe it crosses a time zone and it actually takes 1 hour and 20 minutes.
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Just imagining a janitor traveling a 1000 km/h to open a window on either end to get ventilation going.
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Obviously Elon musk is in on the design.
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BonerGhost posted:They have a plan for that, too. Huge rear end lakes to generate a microclimate. I have no idea whether it can work, I'm reasonably sure it won't work, but it would be pretty cool if it did. They had this theory in the nineteenth century.
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`Nemesis posted:uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Queen Victorian posted:All I could think about was how a hundred mile wall of mirrored glass taller than the Empire State Building is going to be, uh, extremely bad for birds. Also, will there be underpasses for ground-based wildlife? A giant wall is going to disrupt their movements. Is that the one that a billionaire shithead thought up?
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I think the thought process is more analogous to the construction of reservoirs in Oklahoma which. The state has no meaningful natural lakes but has seen a significant increase in humidity since the constructions of a massive network of artificial reservoirs.
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What's hilarious is that, if the Saudis build any of that arcology whatsoever, to whatever diminished effect, they'll have done more for housing than America  It's not great when "massive impractical hilarious pipe dream money pit arcology project" is materially better than everything America has allowed itself to even try
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I remember seeing a bunch of ads a few months ago for NEOM on Twitter and thinking it was all pipe dream bullshit that costs infinite money. Now I know it's a Saudi initiative and was right all along!
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what a great idea, in a few years it can double as a levee
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mAlfunkti0n posted:After seeing a few of the abortions in this thread, I will share with you what I posted in the HVAC thread. I found this under my house (doube-wide) ... no wonder why it was always cold or warm under the place when the AC/heat was running. It's kinda hard for me to see what is going on here tbqh but I'm gonna just let you know that clicking through to the imgbb.com site to try and look at larger versions made my corp malware agent go absolutely bonkers. I'd recommend sticking with imgur in the future.
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Potato Salad posted:What's hilarious is that, if the Saudis build any of that arcology whatsoever, to whatever diminished effect, they'll have done more for housing than America Care to elaborate on this, or are you just being super brave and edgy here?
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Potato Salad posted:What's hilarious is that, if the Saudis build any of that arcology whatsoever, to whatever diminished effect, they'll have done more for housing than America I get that it's cool to hate on the USA, but please have some actual goddamn facts to back it up when you do. More to the point, this ain't D&D or C-SPAM.
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Great way to know when they fail.
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Today I learned that .22LR rounds are sufficient for both 15A and 20A circuits.  Edit: 👇Yup. Beef Of Ages fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jul 27, 2022 |
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Surely those are .22 LR.
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The classic audio-visual auto alert fuse.
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