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opengl
Sep 16, 2010

bad_fmr posted:

It's the way of the road.

The way she goes, bud.

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



Tell me your car is an undrivable "show" car without telling me your car is an undrivable "show" car.

Good luck balancing that wheel, just as a beginning.

Majere
Oct 22, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I don't think anyone in the "stance" crowd ever cared about things like "safety" and "drivability"

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


:hmmyes: they seem happiest when they are unable to get over a speedbump or driveway transition

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


I like “low” from a visual/style standpoint, but I also like, you know, driving my car…
That’s why I will not hate on airbags.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Imagined posted:

What I've always wondered is why people always start with the wheels when they think about fixing up an old car. How many times have I seen an old car running around with rust and peeling paint and primered panels, all dinged up and poo poo, but with $900 wheels on it. Who is that supposed to impress? :psyduck:

You can get rims on credit. You can't get anything else for a fixer-upper on credit

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
No, I've got it all worked out. First I take out a student loan, then I drop out of classes and use the money as down payment for a charger

dphi
Jul 9, 2001

Majere posted:

I don't think anyone in the "stance" crowd ever cared about things like "safety" and "drivability"

It's not a "stance" car by any means fwiw and the wheel with the spoke cut off is something the dude throws on at shows. It's weird but they seem to like doing weird car things in Poland.

Here's his FB if you want to see the whole car, definitely some late 90s Max Power vibes

https://m.facebook.com/110180037169218/

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

slidebite posted:

throwin this here



I have no questions, just concerns.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



Saw this yesterday:



Pretty sure that hand truck is structural. Also the guy was scrolling away on his phone the entire time he was driving.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Was driving to my folks yesterday. Got passed by a motorcyclist, wind blowing their shirt up, the gun stuffed into the waist of their jeans exposed. No holster or anything.

I don't know poo poo about guns, how worrying is it for something like that to just fire into their butt/bike? Or I guess vibrate and fall out?

I always wore proper protection when I rode a motorcycle!

Uthor fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jul 23, 2022

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

Uthor posted:

I don't know poo poo about guns, how worrying is it for something like that to just fire into their butt/bike? Or I guess vibrate and fall out?
Minimal except for very rare exceptions of poorly designed models, and not minimal, respectively. Insanely irresponsible. It's also possible but unlikely that they had a holster that sits entirely below the waistband and wasn't visible, but gently caress them either way.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Guy thinks a situation whered hed have to shoot from atop his bike is more likely than him crashing and being force fed asphalt.

I wish him a very merry glock leg.

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Uthor posted:

Was driving to my folks yesterday. Got passed by a motorcyclist, wind blowing their shirt up, the gun stuffed into the waist of their jeans exposed. No holster or anything.

I don't know poo poo about guns, how worrying is it for something like that to just fire into their butt/bike? Or I guess vibrate and fall out?

I always wore proper protection when I rode a motorcycle!

Holsters do two major things. First they keep the gun attached to you, how well varies but a lot better than tucked into belt. Second they cover the trigger. A bit of clothing and a tug = bang. Lots of people shoot themselves in the leg, dick, or butt when holstering or tucking a gun into their waste band this way.

If there's no round in the chamber it's safe. If there is and it has a manual safety it's safe so long as the safety is engaged. If it doesn't have a manual safety it will have a trigger safety that a t-shirt can bypass.

If he's dumb enough to ride a motorcycle with an upholstered pistol he's dumb enough to do everything else as wrong as possible too.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Dude was riding a motorcycle, packing an unsafetied gun worn stupidly only increases his likelihood of mortality by like 2% tbh.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Ether Frenzy posted:

Dude was riding a motorcycle, packing an unsafetied gun worn stupidly only increases his likelihood of mortality by like 2% tbh.

poo poo, now I regret not getting into guns when I was riding!

(my bike broke and I never fixed it and I realized that at best I'm in the 50% of rider skill, so not worth it)

Genderfluent
Jul 15, 2015

Uthor posted:

Was driving to my folks yesterday. Got passed by a motorcyclist, wind blowing their shirt up, the gun stuffed into the waist of their jeans exposed. No holster or anything.

I don't know poo poo about guns, how worrying is it for something like that to just fire into their butt/bike? Or I guess vibrate and fall out?

I always wore proper protection when I rode a motorcycle!

I've seen so many motorcyclists open carrying while not wearing a helmet. Feels like a total miscalculation of risk to me, but on the other hand this is America

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Genderfluent posted:

I've seen so many motorcyclists open carrying while not wearing a helmet. Feels like a total miscalculation of risk to me, but on the other hand this is America

"I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride"

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

honda whisperer posted:

If he's dumb enough to ride a motorcycle with an upholstered pistol he's dumb enough to do everything else as wrong as possible too.

Riding with my pillow top glock.

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Genderfluent posted:

I've seen so many motorcyclists open carrying while not wearing a helmet. Feels like a total miscalculation of risk to me, but on the other hand this is America

That's probably the most perfect risk assessment of this whole situation.

Terrible car stuff: Riding my hog, no helmet, one in the chamber.

Gabby_Jay
Dec 14, 2000

Gör som vi
Till denna melodi


:prepop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl3KlAr5xio&t=1228s

PitViper
May 25, 2003

Welcome and thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart!
I love you!
Is that.... the "official" way to lift that for battery removal? Because that's sketchy as hell, I'd like that adapter plate to maybe be about three times wider, but I don't know if that would interfere with the bodywork to the outside. And how is it attached to the vehicle?

Edit: ok, so they fit into some slots and then bolt in place. What's stopping them from being slightly taller and much wider at the bottom, just for more lift pad engagement space? Reminds me of the Tesla "pucks" which all seem too drat small in diameter, relative to the space they occupy under the vehicle.

PitViper fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 24, 2022

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Presumably doing anything at all to get the load centered over the pin would cost more than the lives of the techs working underneath the car.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

You know those videos of people going into parking garages overheight, ignoring the bar, and then wrecking poo poo? My girlfriend just tried to do that, would have done that if I wasn't there.

We whanged the warning pipe with the kayak carriers, and she just kept driving because she had no idea what the loud noise and car shaking was, and then tried to insist that we continue into the garage because she couldn't turn around. (We ended up backing out). She's a fine driver on the road, but her stress and anxiety make her scary as poo poo when she drives in the city.

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

:sever: her driving license.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Elviscat posted:

You know those videos of people going into parking garages overheight, ignoring the bar, and then wrecking poo poo? My girlfriend just tried to do that, would have done that if I wasn't there.

We whanged the warning pipe with the kayak carriers, and she just kept driving because she had no idea what the loud noise and car shaking was, and then tried to insist that we continue into the garage because she couldn't turn around. (We ended up backing out). She's a fine driver on the road, but her stress and anxiety make her scary as poo poo when she drives in the city.

I get that. I can still do it, but my stress level skyrockets noticeably in downtown areas of large cities. Like, say, Dallas, by which I live. Hate driving in downtown Dallas. I'm generally not scary when doing so, though (I hope.) Just a lot more cautious.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Oh poo poo, look which brand I'm posting in the thread again! A cautionary tale about cars that are always online, woooooo!

https://twitter.com/wk057/status/1551713027480817670?t=ub32eRSz8zHNFrxGyzYoJg&s=19

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Olympic Mathlete posted:

Oh poo poo, look which brand I'm posting in the thread again! A cautionary tale about cars that are always online, woooooo!

https://twitter.com/wk057/status/1551713027480817670?t=ub32eRSz8zHNFrxGyzYoJg&s=19

I would absolutely lose my mind with rage if that was my car.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
Not to defend Tesla here by any stretch, they're being dicks, but the PO who slapped a 90 badge on it and sold it as a 90 is also a bit of a dick too.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Guess VIN encoding goes out the window when it comes down to software upgrades/downgrades defining the particular model.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
If you read the thread, Tesla did the upgrades so it's more like if you took your ecoboost Mustang to the Ford Dealer for a warranty engine replacement, all they had in stock was Coyote motors so they put one in there, then you sell it as a 'dealer upgraded V8 Mustang" and then 2 owners later the dealership disables 4 of the cylinders and detune it when it was in for an oil change then ask you for the upgrade price it would have cost as a new car to re-enable the 4 cylinders.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Pushing updates that downgrade a car is just scummy, regardless of how the car’s specification came about.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


BuckyDoneGun posted:

Not to defend Tesla here by any stretch, they're being dicks, but the PO who slapped a 90 badge on it and sold it as a 90 is also a bit of a dick too.

Read the twitter thread mate.

efb.

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Jul 27, 2022

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
I've read the thread and what it says is Tesla put in a 90 battery under warranty and mistakenly didn't software lock it to 60 as is their procedure.

Is it also their procedure to accidentally stick a 90 badge on the back too? Thread doesn't say Tesla badged it that way, just "Car is sold twice since, and now has a new owner (my customer). It says 90, badged 90, has 90-type range."

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


BuckyDoneGun posted:

I've read the thread and what it says is Tesla put in a 90 battery under warranty and mistakenly didn't software lock it to 60 as is their procedure.

Is it also their procedure to accidentally stick a 90 badge on the back too? Thread doesn't say Tesla badged it that way, just "Car is sold twice since, and now has a new owner (my customer). It says 90, badged 90, has 90-type range."

Weird you're focusing on the owner applied badge when the car for all intents and purposes was turned into a 90 by Tesla. Should Tesla (or any manufacturer) be allowed to gently caress over a customer years after they've upgraded the car for a previous one?

The answer is no and this sets an incredibly lovely precedent if people just shrug their shoulders. Anyway, happy ending?

https://twitter.com/wk057/status/1552310322077339649?s=20&t=1QckpLo-F-UsnOJLwzUcOQ



And speaking of lovely precedents in the car world, data collection and sale of it to third parties. If someone is making money from me using their product, I want a cut or the opportunity to decline my data being sold.

https://themarkup.org/the-breakdown/2022/07/27/who-is-collecting-data-from-your-car

quote:

The Markup identified 37 companies that are part of the connected vehicle data industry. These companies seek to monetize vehicle data in an environment with few regulations governing its sale or use.

The connected vehicle data market is still in its early days, but analysts predict it will be worth anywhere from $300 billion to $800 billion by 2030.

This nascent industry faces challenges, as it is under pressure to reap profits in order to attract and satisfy investors; at the same time, the disclosure of sensitive and potentially identifying information from smartphones has prompted U.S. lawmakers to threaten sweeping crackdowns on the collection, transfer, and sale of location data, an effort that could create barriers for the industry as it grows.

Nevertheless, the race is on to gather massive amounts of data points about drivers to feed the growing market for this information.

Otonomo is a publicly traded company based in Tel Aviv. Founded in 2015, it was valued at $1.4 billion at the time of its initial public offering (via a SPAC) in August 2021. It boasts on its website that it draws data from 50 million vehicles, “tracking” 330 billion miles and ingests 4.1 billion data points per day.

Wejo, founded in 2014, is a publicly traded vehicle data hub based in Manchester, England. Wejo claims that its data represents “one in every 28 vehicles in the USA” and contains 16.2 trillion data points and 76.7 billion journeys with accuracy down to 3 meters, with a “1-3 second capture rate.”

Bennett Cyphers, a staff technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said, “The more different ways you’re being measured in your vehicle, the more likely it is that someone can take a stream of data and use the characteristics of all of those different data points to fingerprint a particular user or a particular vehicle.”

Cyphers said the amount of personal data collected in combination with a lack of regulations for its sale and use is troubling. “When you see the volume of data that’s up for sale, and the lack of regulation in the vast majority of American states regarding how companies can use data, it seems like a match made in privacy hell.”

https://twitter.com/jonkeegan/status/1552283132786888705?s=20&t=1QckpLo-F-UsnOJLwzUcOQ

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jul 27, 2022

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Lol I’ve been posting about data collection from cars for years, it’s been sold for ages

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.
The data is anonymized except for all the time you spend at your house and at work and when you go to the closest grocery stores to your house and the sandwich shop near your work.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Weird you're focusing on the owner applied badge when the car for all intents and purposes was turned into a 90 by Tesla. Should Tesla (or any manufacturer) be allowed to gently caress over a customer years after they've upgraded the car for a previous one?

If I'm going to be told to read, you can too. I'm not focusing on it, just bringing it up as an "also". Plenty of people piling on Tesla, no need for me to add anything to something everyone agrees is a dick move.

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Not to defend Tesla here by any stretch, they're being dicks, but the PO who slapped a 90 badge on it and sold it as a 90 is also a bit of a dick too.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Doesn't the 90 also have more powerful motors?

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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



so the car is carrying the weight of more batteries but isn't allowed to access them?

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