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Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

a farmer's market i used to go to was open air in the summer, but got turned into an indoor market in the winter. birds would get in during fall and spend the winter inside in the ceiling so you'd have happy chirping even when it was -20 outside. i liked that

# ? Jul 27, 2022 17:31

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# ? May 28, 2024 08:36

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

Perry Mason Jar posted:

My workplace kept the office cooler in summer than winter. Hands stinging from cold I'm not joking

By the time I leave around 4 I'm loving freezing every day, even when it's 90 out lol

# ? Jul 27, 2022 17:33

smoobles: Sep 4, 2014

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:07

Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

Don't worry I'm sure there will be many big things all at once.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:08

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

smoobles posted:

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

it would damage real estate prices for sure, but i strongly suspect commercial real estate would get bailed out

everyone else can eat poo poo though

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:24

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Perry Mason Jar posted:

This is consent manufacturing bullshit writing. You read this and think the number is reflective entirely of private home cooling when it's definitely the fuckton of office buildings, strip malls, movie theaters, etc etc plus all the billionaires running the AC year long across 10 "homes"

Ya the first chunk comes of pretty lame, but the actual conclusions of the article are pretty decent as far as mainstream publications go

quote:

First, we can return the energy systems to those who use them. Currently, most Americans receive their energy from investor-owned utility companies, private corporations that act as public utilities. The very structure of these companies prioritize profit, not people. Energy should be controlled and managed by the communities they serve, and a growing number of energy collectives around the world are leading the way.

Second, we need to plant trees and close the gap in access to urban green spaces.
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Third, we must mandate better building design through legislation.
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Fourth, we need to increase access to more publicly cooled spaces like libraries and cooling centers.
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Lastly, cities need to treat heat emergencies like emergencies.
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The responsibility is not on citizens, whose only choices are whether to buy ACs and whether to turn them on. The responsibility rests on government leaders�the mayors, the city assemblies, and the urban designers that make decisions about green space, energy infrastructure, and building design. In the inevitable heatwaves to follow, the lives of the most vulnerable residents are in their hands.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:27

Fell Mood: Jul 2, 2022; A terrible Fell look!

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

it would damage real estate prices for sure, but i strongly suspect commercial real estate would get bailed out

everyone else can eat poo poo though

Congress passes a 10,000,000,000,000 bailout package to bail out real estate developers and Insurance companies along the east coast after a sudden 3ft sea level rise. A week later every news outlet in the country has articles about how workers demanding better wages is driving record inflation.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:29

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

Mr Hootington posted:

https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1551842174190469120?t=2sJ6UMg3qtCrAAcVi21oRQ&s=19

I read all hell breaking loose on thread recommendation and yes it was really funny

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:31

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Industry lobbyists and megacorps competing amongst each other to see who can get the biggest bailouts in the midst of escalating disasters seems to be the hellworld future that we are actually moving into.

Naturally, everyone else can go gently caress themselves.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:31

Erghh: Sep 24, 2007; "Let him speak!"

smoobles posted:

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

they'll move to protect economic interests so they have the resources to deal with things when they get...you know, really bad at some undefined point in the future.

alernately they just cut straight to war/purging the undesirables to maintain the status quo for a few more minutes

f/e; yeah that ^

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:33

Notorious R.I.M.: Jan 27, 2004; up to my ass in alligators

smoobles posted:

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

Marine ice cliff instability leading to Thwaites collapsing into the ocean still doesn't happen overnight. It will take months to years even in the most aggressive scenarios you can conjecture. Sorry, geological processes are too slow for our idiot brains to collectively deal with.

Thwaites also only has about 2 feet of SLR of water, but that is still more than enough to ruin coastlines.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 18:37

Notorious R.I.M.: Jan 27, 2004; up to my ass in alligators

Technology will save us!

# ? Jul 27, 2022 19:46

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

smoobles posted:

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

I'm confident that that would result in a :siren:

STAGE FOUR RESPONSE :siren:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXIetP5iak

# ? Jul 27, 2022 20:34

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

This is consent manufacturing bullshit writing. You read this and think the number is reflective entirely of private home cooling when it's definitely the fuckton of office buildings, strip malls, movie theaters, etc etc plus all the billionaires running the AC year long across 10 "homes"

And all the space heaters people put under their desks to counteract the airconditioning.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 21:21

Mirthless: Mar 27, 2011; by the sex ghost

skooma512 posted:

And all the space heaters people put under their desks to counteract the airconditioning.

not having to deal with space heaters is one of the greatest perks to working from home, jesus loving christ

I sympathize with office people who are always freezing to death but you can't imagine how much work one space heater can potentially cause for your local computer janitors

most space heaters draw more power than many cubicle outlets are rated for, they are blown circuits waiting to happen, especially when people start running extension cables and power strips around

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# ? Jul 27, 2022 21:29

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

I worked next to a busted single-pane window at my last job

sitting at a desk in a winter coat three months out of the year

# ? Jul 27, 2022 21:50

antipattern: Nov 8, 2019

smoobles posted:

I do often wonder if the Thwaites collapsing tomorrow, and flooding every coastline on earth with 3-6 feet of sea level rise, would cause governments to wake up and do something.

Climate change's effects are too slow and easy to dismiss, we need something big to happen imho

The ruling classes don't care about millions upon millions of preventable deaths (see covid, famine and other horrific poo poo going on) so I doubt they'd lift a finger to help. Most likely you'd see them hardening borders even more to fend off read: kill huge amounts of refugees that would result from something like sea level rise.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:08

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

antipattern posted:

The ruling classes don't care about millions upon millions of preventable deaths (see covid, famine and other horrific poo poo going on) so I doubt they'd lift a finger to help. Most likely you'd see them hardening borders even more to fend off read: kill huge amounts of refugees that would result from something like sea level rise.

if I were a wealthy sovereign, I would simply ambush the sea peoples as they were departing their boats in the swampy river delta

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:16

Sushi The Kid: Sep 10, 2005; <img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

I work in a datacenter. Summer? Freezing. Winter? Extra Freezing. Right now it's 92/102index outside and it's 58 in my office, even though I'm 2 feet from two giant windows.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:19

Stereotype: Apr 24, 2010; College Slice

Oxxidation posted:

I worked next to a busted single-pane window at my last job

sitting at a desk in a winter coat three months out of the year

For three months I worked on a computer in a 50ft hangar in antarctica where one of the walls could open, and did, often

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:20

Enfys: Feb 17, 2013; The ocean is calling and I must go

Marenghi posted:

Where I worked used to have plastic plants in the office. Then as a green iniative they replaced them with real plants from a company who provides them on a subscription model. Rather than watering them they just drive in fresh replacements every month.

I think the plastic plants were better for the environment. Though I did get lots of free plants everytime they threw them out.

https://twitter.com/ravenbooks/status/1552018945091244034

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:41

JAY ZERO SUM GAME: Oct 18, 2005; Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.

Erghh posted:

https://time.com/6199353/air-conditioning-will-not-save-us/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

....and goes from there

lmao and the nuclear power plant, indian point, that used to serve nyc was shut down since then!

# ? Jul 27, 2022 22:58

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Stereotype posted:

For three months I worked on a computer in a 50ft hangar in antarctica where one of the walls could open, and did, often

Did they do that for a particular reason?

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:01

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

lmao and the nuclear power plant, indian point, that used to serve nyc was shut down since then!

it was going to have to shut down sooner or later. the technophile love to pretend that nuclear reactors can run forever and ever, but like all infrastructure it has to be replaced eventually.

the solution isn't keeping aging plants operational longer and longer, its to build new things instead.

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:03

JAY ZERO SUM GAME: Oct 18, 2005; Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.

well they're not doing that either

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:05

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

i should ask my condo about putting in a generator for the inevitable rolling blackouts

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:09

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

Speaking of Thwaites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvFkLWHRUwo

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:44

Stereotype: Apr 24, 2010; College Slice

skooma512 posted:

Did they do that for a particular reason?

it was the only way to get the big cargo containers in and out, also it was closer to where you could park the trucks. eventually it's how they get the instrument out, which is why it's so big. also one of the techs always joked that they did it for fun to annoy us keyboards

# ? Jul 27, 2022 23:49

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

Mayor Dave posted:

Speaking of Thwaites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvFkLWHRUwo

Oh poo poo I think that I posted a pseudo vlog of that expedition earlier in the thread. It was a south Korean exposition to thwaites earlier this year

TeenageArchipelago posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0PmfZYVAA

pretty neat little vlog from a team of korean scientists going down to the thwaites glacier. It doesn't really say anything, more of a "day in the life" type video without much voiceover

# ? Jul 28, 2022 00:08

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

James Lovelock, environmental scientist who created Gaia ecology theory, dies at 103

quote:

James Lovelock, the environmental scientist whose influential Gaia theory sees the Earth as a living organism gravely imperilled by human activity has died on his 103rd birthday.

Lovelock's family said Wednesday that he died the previous evening "in his home surrounded by his family," from complications related to a fall. The family said that until six months ago Lovelock "was still able to walk along the coast near his home in Dorset and take part in interviews, but his health deteriorated after a bad fall earlier this year."

Born in 1919, Lovelock studied chemistry, medicine and biophysics in the U.K. and the U.S. He worked at the Medical Research Council in Britain and in the 1960s on NASA's moon and Mars programs at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. But he spent much of his career as an independent scientist outside of large academic institutions.

Lovelock's contribution to environmental science included developing a device to measure ozone-depleting chlorofluorocarbons in the atmosphere and pollutants in air, soil and water.

The Gaia hypothesis, first proposed in the 1970s, saw the Earth itself as a complex, self-regulating system that created and maintained the conditions for life on the planet. Lovelock said human activity had thrown the system dangerously out of kilter.

"The biosphere and I are both in the last one per cent or our lives," he told The Guardian newspaper in 2020.

Initially dismissed by many scientists, the Gaia theory became influential as concern about humanity's effect on the planet grew, not least because of its power as a metaphor. Gaia is the Greek goddess of the Earth.

Lovelock is survived by his wife Sally and children Christine, Jane, Andrew and John.

"To the world, he was best known as a scientific pioneer, climate prophet and conceiver of the Gaia theory," they said in a statement. "To us, he was a loving husband and wonderful father with a boundless sense of curiosity, a mischievous sense of humor and a passion for nature."

The family said there would be a private funeral, followed by a public memorial service at a later date.

# ? Jul 28, 2022 01:21

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Rime posted:

James Lovelock, environmental scientist who created Gaia ecology theory, dies at 103

Sad news. He must have seen so much change in his long life. I hope everyone posting here makes it to 103, too.

# ? Jul 28, 2022 01:23

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

it was 103 last thursday thank you

# ? Jul 28, 2022 01:23

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

"The biosphere and I are both in the last one per cent or our lives," he told The Guardian newspaper in 2020.

lol metal as gently caress for a 101 year old

# ? Jul 28, 2022 01:30

Lpzie: Nov 20, 2006

mawarannahr posted:

Sad news. He must have seen so much change in his long life. I hope everyone posting here makes it to 103, too.

born in the 340s, hopefully dead by the 690s....

# ? Jul 28, 2022 01:33

The Voice of Labor: Apr 8, 2020

mawarannahr posted:

Sad news. He must have seen so much change in his long life. I hope everyone posting here makes it to 103, too.

*posters at 65 and onwards*

"dear god why didn't I die years ago? why am I cursed to wander this scorched, parched, forsaken land, only the christofacists and anprims and centipede people for company?"

# ? Jul 28, 2022 02:09

Shifty Nipples: Apr 8, 2007

Real hurthling! posted:

it was 103 last thursday thank you

except yesterday

# ? Jul 28, 2022 03:11

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

mawarannahr posted:

I hope everyone posting here makes it to 103, too.

Why do you hate us.

# ? Jul 28, 2022 03:11

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

loving this guys energy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaUZuglbnFw

I kind of want to get into beekeeping, but tbqh I know I can't afford it right now. Something something "need to own a house"

e: that said this is literally the first video of this guy's that I've watched so I can't say how good the channel is

TeenageArchipelago has issued a correction as of 03:58 on Jul 28, 2022

# ? Jul 28, 2022 03:41

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

if you have a window just put the bee hive in that as if it were an air conditioner.

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# ? May 28, 2024 08:36

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Mr Hootington posted:

https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1551842174190469120?t=2sJ6UMg3qtCrAAcVi21oRQ&s=19

Mayor Dave posted:

I read all hell breaking loose on thread recommendation and yes it was really funny

Despite the Syria comment, interventions like this into civil wars and future "ungoverned spaces" exacerbated by climate change really are things that the Pentagon is contemplating. Their "worst case" scenario is really interesting.

The top of the "ladder of escalation" is the most interesting step, because it not only talks about limited deployment in a chaotic world, but because worsening climate change impacts (like flooding, drought, storm surges, etc) within U.S's bases could hamper their capacity to respond even from the U.S. itself.

All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon's Perspective on Climate Change posted:

[...]

Ultimately, the U.S. military could face an �all hell breaking loose� scenario�a situation in which the armed forces are confronted with multiple warming-related crises abroad while the homeland itself is suffering from severe climate effects and many of the military�s own facilities are immobilized by rising seas or other climate impacts. With governments collapsing in many areas of the world, global trading systems�for food, energy, and other vital commodities�will begin to break down, producing widespread chaos and flight. In this terrifying scenario, the military will be stretched far beyond its deployable capacity and senior commanders will be forced to make heart-wrenching decisions about which emergencies can be accorded attention and which will have to be ignored, at whatever cost in human life and the national interest.

An �all hell breaking loose� scenario would, no doubt, prove the American military�s greatest nightmare. This is so not because senior officers fear injury or death in battle�they are fully prepared to face that risk in some future clash with China or Russia, if ordered to do so�but rather because they dread institutional collapse under the weight of multiple deployments in impossible conditions. American officers are loyal above all else to the unfailing integrity of the military services (which they view as the ultimate bulwark against America�s adversaries), so anything that might undermine institutional integrity is perceived as an existential threat. Climate change, by multiplying the risks to world stability while placing the military itself in danger, constitutes just such a threat.

[...]

Climate change poses many varied threats to American national security. But for military commanders, none are more terrifying than its potential to directly undermine the military�s capacity for carrying out its fundamental operations. This is an institution that prides itself, above all else, on being prepared at all times to carry out orders from the commander in chief pertaining to the nation�s security. And being prepared, in this case, means having fully functioning bases at home to support operations conducted elsewhere. The fact that climate change might, in the years ahead, imperil that ability is the Pentagon�s ultimate �all hell breaking loose� nightmare. And while this may once have seemed only a distant possibility, recent events show that this scenario could arise much sooner than many analysts initially assumed.

also decided to take a quick break to start reading through 6 Degrees of Warming on thread recommendation and

uh

things really aren't that bad yet

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 04:21 on Jul 28, 2022

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