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Pablo Bluth posted:The R7 seems a bit underwhelming to me. All the oems are focusing on the more premium end as entry level collapses, yet the R7 seems a bit skimpy: an inferior EVF than the R6, no ibis, apparently none of the usual signs that it'll support a battery grip, not making use of the latest sensor tech canon have,.. R7 has IBIS "Canon EOS R7 Camera Body Key Features: Large 32.5MP APS-C sized sensor for balanced resolution IBIS system for 7 stops of protection against camera shake" I'm waiting for reviews, I have an R5 but mostly shoot birds/macro so APS-C is good for me.
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I have a 70D arriving today to replace my XT from 2005. The built-in IS is appealing to me in the R7.. And double the fps. The cost is reasonable, but glad I don't have that much to splurge. GAS Philthy fucked around with this message at 15:36 on May 25, 2022 |
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BetterLekNextTime posted:R7 and R10 are officially announced now. Am I crazy for actually considering flipping my R6 for an R7 (I use it exclusively for wildlife)? I'd definitely want to check one out in person to see if I can stand the camera controls and screen, and I guess I'd have to get over using it at ridiculously high ISO. Please send me your R6. I wasn't able to get Canon to sell me one. The new cameras do look nice but not something I'd be into I think. At APS-C I think I'd rather stick with the EM-M for the travel size. Did Canon comment on that at all? Is the system dead?
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Pablo Bluth posted:The R7 seems a bit underwhelming to me. All the oems are focusing on the more premium end as entry level collapses, yet the R7 seems a bit skimpy: an inferior EVF than the R6, no ibis, apparently none of the usual signs that it'll support a battery grip, not making use of the latest sensor tech canon have,.. The R7 does have IBIS. The R10 does not.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Mixed up r5 and r7 reviews... Both R5 and R7 have IBIS...
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I'll try that again! Mixed up r10 and r7 reviews...
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Well, this kind of sucks. I got my 70D and I cannot get any pictures remotely as sharp as the XT it is replacing. The live view is better for focusing, but still not nearly as sharp as the XT still. Just did a bunch of tripod timed shots with two different lenses with multiple stops and zooms and the XT from 2005 is night and day better in every aspect. I've gone through all the settings and they're all the same as far as I can tell. I got the 70D used for not that much ($350 shipped) from Adorama, and got the extended year warranty. It'll be interesting to see how they handle returns. My lens set is a EF-S 55-250 IS II, EF-S 24, EF-S 18-55, and the EF 50 1.8. Any suggestions of what I could get if I move to about $500ish for a body? I like shooting birdos in the back yard, and hiking mostly. I guess I am not married to my lenses.. But.. ugh. Edit: Looks like 30 day full refund is possible, so.. Philthy fucked around with this message at 16:44 on May 27, 2022 |
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Philthy posted:Well, this kind of sucks. I got my 70D and I cannot get any pictures remotely as sharp as the XT it is replacing. The live view is better for focusing, but still not nearly as sharp as the XT still. Hmm, that seems weird. You can try to isolate the issue to a focusing issue or something else by doing manual focus in live view and use the zoom 5x/10x (going of memory here, not sure those numbers are accurate) to dial in focus. That's basically the ideal focus and will tell you if its auto-focus loving up or something else. I assume when you are comparing you're taking into account that the 70D has more than twice the pixels of your XT? If you zoom into 1:1 view on the 70d its going to show the limits of your optics much more than a 1:1 view of the XT.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Hmm, that seems weird. You can try to isolate the issue to a focusing issue or something else by doing manual focus in live view and use the zoom 5x/10x (going of memory here, not sure those numbers are accurate) to dial in focus. That's basically the ideal focus and will tell you if its auto-focus loving up or something else. Yes. Even when resizing the images down to match the XT, the object of focus is still a blurry mess, while the XT is incredibly sharp. I've tried all the various focus methods from single point, to group, to area. I did see a bunch of issues with soft focus problems with the 70D that a few people were having, but only when the lens is wide open and using the center point. The Live View focus was the "fix" for anything focus related, and that still didn't get me what I am expecting doing f8. The camera has been boxed up, and I'm about to ship it back off. The easy return is making this easy, but I am going camping for a week 8 days from now, and no new toy to bring. I'll have my XT with 1GB card, just wont be able to do action shots. Just scenic one offs and such. Not too upset about it. I may end up just pulling the trigger on an R7 and a converter lens to be honest. But my wife would murder me. It's beyond my capabilities, but having such good AF for action shots with all that fps would keep me happy. Anything in the $500 range for a body would be preferable, though. I'll see if I can put together some side by sides a little later when I have time just for reference sake. Philthy fucked around with this message at 20:05 on May 27, 2022 |
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May 27, 2022 20:02
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Philthy posted:Well, this kind of sucks. I got my 70D and I cannot get any pictures remotely as sharp as the XT it is replacing. The live view is better for focusing, but still not nearly as sharp as the XT still. That's weird. You're looking at the images on a computer, right? Just double-checking it's not just the diopter on the viewfinder. I've never done any in camera micro focus adjust stuff but maybe see if you can find that in the menus and reset it. Regarding other models, I think that's probably a good choice in that price range. For a smidge more there are some newer models like the 80D and 77D . MPB has the 7Dmk2 for about $700 or $800 I think if you wanted to go bigger. e: I see your reply to the earlier post, so ignore the diopter comment. BetterLekNextTime fucked around with this message at 20:16 on May 27, 2022 |
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Yeah, my first thought was micro-focus was set to all or something. It wasn't. I reset everything to defaults, same issue. Nothing looked better. I did try setting the microfocus, but it actually got worse no matter which direction I went with it. Also, yes, looked at both via Lightroom and Photoshop side by side. Resized the larger and exported, same thing.
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Here is what I was seeing. It's entirely possible I was making a mistake somewhere, but these were all on a tripod with the settings and zooms set as close as possible. XT (8mp) on the left for all, 70D (20mp) on the right for all. RAW was used on both cameras. 10 second delay timer was used on all shots. Focus was set dead center of the church window. Aperture priority. 24mm prime  18-55mm  18-55mm  yes, I need to dust Philthy fucked around with this message at 21:27 on May 27, 2022 |
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May 27, 2022 21:17
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There's something wrong with that 70d, send it back and move on. If they offer to send a replacement it might be worth a try but it's up to you if it's worth the effort.
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Thanks for posting screenshots. That's a weird issue and I can't explain it, but agree that just sending the body back seems like the best course of action. Philthy posted:Any suggestions of what I could get if I move to about $500ish for a body? I like shooting birdos in the back yard, and hiking mostly. I feel weird suggesting an M series camera since they're end of life, but I absolutely love my M50. It'll mount all your lenses with a small adapter and you'll have the option of any of the (mostly inexpensive) EF-M lenses as well. I use mine with a 55-250mm STM for birds when I'm hikes where dragging my 150-600mm isn't realistic and it does great. Add a wide angle lens (the 11-22mm is great, but I use the Rokinon 12mm F/2) and its the perfect hiking/walkaround combo. Mirrorless takes a little getting used to, but it has some big advantages I miss when I use my DSLR.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Thanks for posting screenshots. That's a weird issue and I can't explain it, but agree that just sending the body back seems like the best course of action. This may be an option, the EF/S adapter costs nothing, and I lose nothing. Might be some good deals turning up. The more I look, though, the more I am simply inclined to go down to the local shop and put an R7 on preorder. I can live with my XT in the mean time, it just has bits falling off from old age. Also, there is some hubbub about a new Fuji release in a few days, so I'll see what that's all about as well. Options are open when you have this much gas. Edit: Couldn't help myself. 7D mk II on the way. Philthy fucked around with this message at 18:36 on May 28, 2022 |
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Anyone had a card crash the camera? I put a microSD & adapter into mine and it would crash every few minutes. Wasn't anything on the card, formatted it with the camera
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brand engager posted:Anyone had a card crash the camera? I put a microSD & adapter into mine and it would crash every few minutes. Wasn't anything on the card, formatted it with the camera I've had issues with microSD cards and adapters in cards, biggest of which is that they negatively impact write speed and can get jostled around so that they don't read/write properly. I saw a noticeable performance increase in my 80D when I swapped to a fullsize SD card.
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No crashes here either, but I have had issues with the camera recognizing microsd cards, needing a couple ejections and insertions to get it to read. I think the adapters are barely functional garbage and probably cause a lot of issues.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Mixed up r5 and r7 reviews... melon cat fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jul 23, 2022 |
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Oh yeah, R7 impressions here from my first couple of days with it. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3462132&pagenumber=53&perpage=40&userid=0#post524998228
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The model numbers aren't horrible if you get familiar with the system, pretty much all of them sort from pro to consumer. I think Canon is unique in that smaller numbers mean higher end, which is maybe a little weird but not as weird as the gaps in numbers. I guess they're just leaving themselves the option of sneaking in an intermediate body at some point. I do rather like the "mk1" and on up bit for depicting the generation of the body or lens. It's pretty easy for anyone to decipher that.
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I've picked up an R7 and the Rf 100-400 and I'm struggling. I've been out hunting dragonflies, butterflies, etc midday. Bright cloudless sunlight. Direct freaking light. Everything through the viewfinder is dark looking in all the modes. I'm taking pictures of stuff and it's throwing ISO 2000 on something in direct light. It makes no sense to me. Coming from the 7d2, it should be ISO 100 or even 200 easily in so much light. The difference between the two was I was using 55-250 lens. I was looking across this beautiful field, and its bright and lush, then I go through the view finder to compose and it's like 1 or 2 stops darker. I thought maybe it's the view finder brightness since it's a screen (Which is driving me nuts, I much prefer DSLR over this) and bumped it all the way up, and it's still.. darker. I came across a sign that is bright brilliant white in the sunlight for reference and took a photo, and looking at it, it's dark, like it looked in the view finder. The histogram was dead center reading. EV meter was right at the middle. This should be bright brilliant white as white can be. Even the field behind it is all dark. Like i'm under a cloud. I'm not, you would want to wear sunglasses, if anything.  This is how everything looks through my R7, it's this dim cast over everything I see and take. I don't know if I have some wacky setting totally off or what, but it's frustrating I can pick up my 7D2 and it's 100% perfect, and the R7 is.. dark poo poo. Edit: I guess the next test is to simply go out with my converted EF-S 55-250 and see if it acts any differently to see if it's the lens or the body. Philthy fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jul 23, 2022 |
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Now I'm feeling like an idiot. Using Av f8, ISO set to 200, full sunlight on the house. Shutter speed that was determined was 1/1000 for almost every shot. I took a photo of my white house siding with the R7. RF 100-400 @ 100mm and it's darker looking through the VF vs what I see in real life. View finder and resulting image is darker. RF<->EF-S 55-250 @ 100mm and it's darker looking through the VF vs what I see in real life. View finder and resulting image is darker. I took a photo with the 7d2. EF-S 55-250 @ 100mm and it's perfectly white through the VF vs what I see in real life. View finder is showing what I see, BUT resulting image is darker as with the R7. All I can take away from this is that the 7d2 viewfinder, which is basically looking through the lens is showing what I see, but not necessarily what it will capture. Where the R7 view finder is showing exactly what the sensor will capture, because the image is from the sensor itself. At the end of the day, R7 is more accurate for what the captured image will be. However, this isn't explaining why everything seems to dark to me since going to the R7. Is it a brain thing going on? I mean, I can certainly add it to the list if need be. Philthy fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Why not just post your settings ISO, shutter speed, aperture? Or even a RAW file. Okay read your edit, yeah you are seeing the exposure simulation as is, it takes some time to get used to after using DSLR jarlywarly fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jul 23, 2022 |
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Ah, okay. That makes sense. So it's a brain thing I will need to get used to. So, photos were actually always darker in the DSLR, it's just by the time I got home I would never really notice. Where the R7 is showing me in real time as I see it. Lawwwd. Thank you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp3AsLhMwDk I've made a shortcut for this on My Menu. I'll keep it on because accuracy is probably better in the long run, but when I'm doing night photos, I'll likely want it off to compose vs a black screen. Philthy fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Now that I got through my personal insanity on that aspect of the R7, I can say focusing wise, it is insanely better than what I was capable of achieving with my 7d2. When it locks on to something, be it a bunny, a dragonfly head for half a second before it gets confused and locks on to its rear end, or a bird on a branch, everything is sharp as heck. My keepers to wade through are about 80 good/20 bad whereas with my 7d2 it was 20 good/80 bad. When it locks on to an eye of a bird, it's crazy to see the texture around the eyeball so detailed compared to just okay on the 7d2. This was primarily why I wanted the R7 and its delivering. I picked up Ritz Gear Video Pro 64gb card that has a write speed of 250, but tends to beat out the 300 write speed cards from some random dude who did some testing on the internet. Likely paid by Ritz Gear to put it at #1, but I don't care. With CRAW I am getting just about 3 seconds of continuous 30fps shooting, which is ridiculous. I came home with 1500 images instead of my typical 300-400. Clearing the buffer took about 5 seconds, and I could also shoot more short bursts as soon as half a second or so - it didn't need to dump the entire buffer to be ready again. That said, trying to capture flying dragonflies and a few birds, of which im not that experienced at, I never ran into buffering issues. I seldom did on my 7d2 with 10fps, I always feather the trigger instead of spray and pray. Auto focusing was voodoo, as it captured the black speck rapidly flying around eveywhere off in the distance at 400mm that you would only know to be a dragonfly by zooming all the way in during post. It was sharp. How? Voodoo. I have since turned it down to 15fps, and might go further. Unless I'm trying to capture eagles grabbing fish, I'm not sure 30fps is going to help me capture a lazy rear end dragonfly sitting on a weed. I'm on day 2 with it. It feels a lot harder to figure out than the 7d2 so far, but I'm hoping it's just muscle memory. Philthy fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Yeah I made the upgrade to a 128gb card just because the modern mirrorless cameras can burst so fast it feels like you fill up the card immediately. As you've noticed the hit rate is so high that you don't have to take as many shots, which helps once you retrain your spray 'n pray instincts.
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Neat, the back button focus lets you assign almost every focusing variable to a button with a long checklist. The normal back button focus is set to the custom settings I've set. Animal detect, eye detect, case 2, etc. I've noticed for butterflies it can grab focus on a spot on their wings because it looks like eyes and throw the focus point off drastically, and dragonflies it might grab their rear end. So, I set the * button to be a back button spot focus, that turns off all the other assists to use while it's depressed and just does the old-fashioned center point focus. As soon as I let go, the eye tracking and everything else that is built into the default focus I've set up takes over again.
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I love my R but am a bit gutted it doesn't have other kinds of eye detect, other than human. although spose I don't do much of that. I'm glad you're enjoying mirrorless AF though. I came from a 7D (the original) and god the difference in the keepers.
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melon cat posted:On this note Canon naming conventions are total poo poo. So are Sony's. Really am curious why they do it like this. That said, Canon should have used the mirrorless switch to make single digit models exclusively full frame. The 7D2 successor should have been R10, R10 mkII, R10 mkII, etc, while the XXD lines should have gone R20, R30, etc. Instead the R7 seems to be somewhere between the 7D2 and 90D.
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Yeah it seemed like they reused the same scheme the dslr models have, so 5D -> R5 6D -> R6 7D -> R7 90D -> R10 (starting over from 10D model) I'm assuming if they make an equivalent of the t#i/###D line it'll be called R100
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TomR posted:Canon naming is some of the clearest naming in all of tech. You can not pay attention for a while and then see a new model name and have a pretty good idea of what it is and where it fits in the line. Apart from the 760D which was somewhere between a 750D and a 70D, and was then replaced by the 77D.
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Those are at least weird numbers in the line up so you have an indication you should probably go look up the details. The Rebel line gets a bit messy with the letter names they use here instead of just a number scheme. Still though, for the most part the line up is straight forward. Only thing I would add is a clear line between full frame and crop sensors. Also probably a clear indication of weather sealing or not I suppose, but I just assume anything one or two digits is at least acceptable as a pro body. 7D messed up everything. Good camera though.
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Philthy posted:However, this isn't explaining why everything seems to dark to me since going to the R7. Is it a brain thing going on? I mean, I can certainly add it to the list if need be.
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TomR posted:Those are at least weird numbers in the line up so you have an indication you should probably go look up the details. The Rebel line gets a bit messy with the letter names they use here instead of just a number scheme. Still though, for the most part the line up is straight forward. Only thing I would add is a clear line between full frame and crop sensors. Also probably a clear indication of weather sealing or not I suppose, but I just assume anything one or two digits is at least acceptable as a pro body. 7D messed up everything. Good camera though. I had a 7D and was so validated when I read about a dude who used it for a Britney Spears photoshoot lol
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echinopsis posted:I had a 7D and was so validated when I read about a dude who used it for a Britney Spears photoshoot lol Studio work is pretty undemanding of a body though. You don't care about dynamic range, you don't care about AF tracking or burst rates, you don't care about weather sealing, What you care about is that the camera will work every time you pick it up and you can dial in the settings you need without having to gently caress about with menus. So ergonomics and build quality basically. Everything else is down to your lens, your lighting, and post.
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