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Robot Style posted:It would've been kind of funny to see Dark Forces IV: Jedi Knight III: Jedi Outcast II: Jedi Academy as a title on a game case. There's some nice logo art in there, and I think "Shadows of the Sith" is probably a better subtitle than "The Force Awakens" even if I also think maybe the whole Sith/Jedi thing should have finished with Return of the Jedi. That aside, the "Star Wars: Darth Maul" logo reminds me that there was a book released in the old EU about some schlubs who find out some piece of Palpatine's plan and try to report it, so Palpatine sics Maul on them and the main core of the book is Maul chasing them to kill them almost like a slasher flick villain. I haven't read it in years, but I remember quite liking it. Edit: If Lucasarts had made a Star Wars: Rebel Scum game, Ian McDiarmid should have announced the title at the start screen. tsob fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jul 27, 2022 |
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tsob posted:There's some nice logo art in there, and I think "Shadows of the Sith" is probably a better subtitle than "The Force Awakens" even if I also think maybe the whole Sith/Jedi thing should have finished with Return of the Jedi. Funnily enough, JJ Abrams actually wanted to call Episode 7 Shadows of the Empire, which had to be nixed because it had already been used by the video game.
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Wolfsheim posted:I would argue that ST09 is the best movie JJ has ever made? Force Awakens, super 8, and Mission Impossible 3 and ST are all great and fun movies.
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LionArcher posted:Force Awakens, super 8, and Mission Impossible 3 and ST are all great and fun movies. Hard agree. It’s TV, but I also love the first two seasons of Alias, which are the seasons he was involved with.
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Jul 28, 2022 02:11
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Force Awakens is a prologue to a movie that never happened and is worse in retrospect for it, Super 8 can't decide if it's fun Spielberg whimsy or about a horrific man-eating monster and never remotely reconciles these ideas, MI3 is good, Star Trek is a little better 
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Lt. Danger posted:Star Wars: Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy Eh, I dunno. Love the Kotors, as games to play, but I doubt much of the story would make for good movies. Robot Style posted:That kind of backstory would actually work with a lot of the existing assets from Episode 7: (and the next 2 as well imo) See? The ST is already broadly similar, and it sucks! Clean Your Teeth posted:star wars Origin movies for every phrase spoken by an OT character lmao
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Blood Boils posted:Origin movies for every phrase spoken by an OT character lmao It was a Lucasarts logo i.e. the game division. So it'd be a videogame, presumably about the less respectable citizens of Mos Eisley. I'm just going to assume it's one of those restaurant sims where you have to make increasingly complex drinks/food for the customers, with minor distractions to keep the player off-balance, with those in this case being less "clean the toilets" and more "break up bar brawls", "kick out droids" etc.
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Bongo Bill posted:Omega Force is on record as having said that they also want to make some sort of Star Warriors, but they were never able to get the license holders to the negotiating table. You are the bringer of pain.
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I think fans are trying to finish the abandoned Battlefront 3? That might be the closest we get to a Star Wars musou, sadly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxr-yA5yhmc And even that's a stretch and not musou enough.
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PeterWeller posted:The only issues with TLJ's aesthetics is the lack of wipes and irises. This is an issue for all of the sequels. This reminds me of something that I found really 'weird' but never really got talked about. Was Luke's montage in TLJ the first Star Wars film where a character was talking but not onscreen or implied to be? It always felt like it was breaking some massive Star Wars filming rule but then it felt like I was the only person to notice it.
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Wolfsheim posted:Force Awakens is a prologue to a movie that never happened and is worse in retrospect for it, Super 8 can't decide if it's fun Spielberg whimsy or about a horrific man-eating monster and never remotely reconciles these ideas, MI3 is good, Star Trek is a little better This. Force Awakens is the one movie needed to be salvaged by the other movies because it’s such a made in China copy.
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Blood Boils posted:Eh, I dunno. Love the Kotors, as games to play, but I doubt much of the story would make for good movies. thinking less a direct adaptation and more the broader strokes. which, I mean, it's just Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic, right?
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super 8 is good. TFA, imho, is the best of the ST, even though I agree it sets up a lot of stuff that never pays and is fundamentally screwed by the fact it kinda tries to be a sequel and a remake at the same time Also, I love Lost (please dont yell at me)
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Lt. Danger posted:thinking less a direct adaptation and more the broader strokes. which, I mean, it's just Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic, right? That's the setting, sure, but the plot of the games themselves is probably closer to....I dunno Hook?
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Elias_Maluco posted:Also, I love Lost (please dont yell at me) Same but Abrams doesn't deserve much of the credit or blame there.
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I remember sitting down to watch TFA, being cautiously optimistic because those trailers looked pretty cool. I walked out of that move a sad and broken man. Still can't believe I stayed until the end.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Same but Abrams doesn't deserve much of the credit or blame there. He is one of the creators, thought I really have no idea what exactly was his part there
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Jul 28, 2022 11:44
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Elias_Maluco posted:He is one of the creators, thought I really have no idea what exactly was his part there IIRC he was there for Season 1? He, Lieber, and Lindelof were tasked with making a Survivor/Castaway mashup of a TV show, and the rest is history.
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Elias_Maluco posted:He is one of the creators, thought I really have no idea what exactly was his part there The broad concept for Lost was kicking around ABC but Abrams and Lindelof (who was brought on because Abrams was still busy with Alias) were the ones to nail down the specifics of the first few episodes and the initial cast. Then in season 1 Abrams was busy with Mission Impossible so Carlton Cuse and Lindelof became the showrunners, and from then on Abrams had minimal involvement (outside of a single teleplay credit). It would have been a very different show without him but he also just didn't work on it for the vast majority of its run.
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Bongo Bill posted:Omega Force is on record as having said that they also want to make some sort of Star Warriors, but they were never able to get the license holders to the negotiating table. What I meant to say was, "The negotiations haven't started because the ambassadors aren't there? How could that be true? I have assurances from the chancellor..."
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Same but Abrams doesn't deserve much of the credit or blame there. Lost is fine, it just suffers from a meandering middle because it actually wasn't planned. Once they got a plan for the last few seasons and built/wrote around it, it was fine again. Also had far too many episodes because of network TV. You see how much better Lindelof got without having to showrun hundreds of episodes with The Leftovers and especially Watchmen. But yeah, almost no Abrams there.
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Darko posted:Also had far too many episodes because of network TV. You see how much better Lindelof got without having to showrun hundreds of episodes with The Leftovers and especially Watchmen.
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Blood Boils posted:Eh, I dunno. Love the Kotors, as games to play, but I doubt much of the story would make for good movies. KOTOR1 is basically the most generic rehash of SW hero's journey story beats possible. So in that sense it makes for about as good a movie as we got in TFA. Chucat posted:This reminds me of something that I found really 'weird' but never really got talked about. I believe that is the first time we've gotten voiceover and a flashback in a Star Wars film.
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PeterWeller posted:I believe that is the first time we've gotten voiceover and a flashback in a Star Wars film. Are we counting diegetic flashbacks? Because that'd make TFA the first to have them. TLJ's is non-diegetic, narrated, and much longer.
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Chucat posted:This reminds me of something that I found really 'weird' but never really got talked about. How about the random voiceovers when Rey touches the lightsaber and trips? Which, as far as I can remember, never got any sort of explanation despite seeming super important in TFA.
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Glottis posted:How about the random voiceovers when Rey touches the lightsaber and trips? Which, as far as I can remember, never got any sort of explanation despite seeming super important in TFA. They were addressed... from a certain point of view (chucked out of the picture when Luke tossed his father's lightsaber over his shoulder).
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PeterWeller posted:KOTOR1 is basically the most generic rehash of SW hero's journey story beats possible. So in that sense it makes for about as good a movie as we got in TFA. I kind of disagree, it's a generic rehash of every Bioware plot ever and those are tailor-made for a RPG power fantasy. Adapting that in a different medium would demand a not insignificant amount of changes.
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Ironslave posted:Are we counting diegetic flashbacks? Because that'd make TFA the first to have them. TLJ's is non-diegetic, narrated, and much longer. I remember watching that the flashback really felt out of place in Star Wars.
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Clean Your Teeth posted:star wars It was gonna be an adventure game. SCUMM and Villainy.
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Bogus Adventure posted:LucasArts getting shuttered really sucked. And none of these game developers have the courage to give me a next gen X-Wing game. Squadrons is okay, but it feels so small. I just want a game that lets me fly and fight in the Battle of Endor with today's graphics. Comrade, have I got some good news for you. It take Alliance, adds the fan-made asset upgrade mods, and then layers on top of that all the missions and cutscenes from TIE Fighter, and a whole new "re-imagined" campaign. Plays just like the old one, looks almost modern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEVrdwZ9bEk
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mllaneza posted:Comrade, have I got some good news for you. It take Alliance, adds the fan-made asset upgrade mods, and then layers on top of that all the missions and cutscenes from TIE Fighter, and a whole new "re-imagined" campaign. Plays just like the old one, looks almost modern. That is very pretty, but I would feel icky flying for the Imperials. That was one part about Squadrons I haaaaaaaaaaated. 
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mllaneza posted:Comrade, have I got some good news for you. It take Alliance, adds the fan-made asset upgrade mods, and then layers on top of that all the missions and cutscenes from TIE Fighter, and a whole new "re-imagined" campaign. Plays just like the old one, looks almost modern. Jesus that looks amazing. I instantly started itching to play the original again the second the trailer started, with the wonky 1994 graphics; wondering where I had a joystick stuffed. My poor laptop would explode if I even tried playing that new version though, gorgeous as it looks. I wonder if whoever did it wants to do the X-Wing game too; both were rad as hell. I love that the first comment is from one of the X-Wing Alliance devs, saying it looks great. Thanks for letting me know it exists, regardless.
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mllaneza posted:Comrade, have I got some good news for you. It take Alliance, adds the fan-made asset upgrade mods, and then layers on top of that all the missions and cutscenes from TIE Fighter, and a whole new "re-imagined" campaign. Plays just like the old one, looks almost modern. 
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mllaneza posted:Comrade, have I got some good news for you. It take Alliance, adds the fan-made asset upgrade mods, and then layers on top of that all the missions and cutscenes from TIE Fighter, and a whole new "re-imagined" campaign. Plays just like the old one, looks almost modern.  drat I'd love to play that. I was just thinking about how much I missed the old games last week, and now i see this. If they also do an X-Wing upgrade in the style of this, I'll get a proper PC or whatever I need to play it.
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Darko posted:Lost is fine, it just suffers from a meandering middle because it actually wasn't planned. Once they got a plan for the last few seasons and built/wrote around it, it was fine again. Lindelof's Watchmen was as incoherent and directionless as the ST  YaketySass posted:I kind of disagree, it's a generic rehash of every Bioware plot ever and those are tailor-made for a RPG power fantasy. Adapting that in a different medium would demand a not insignificant amount of changes. I dunno about a movie but 'the hero goes around solving people's problems until they eventually stumble onto the main plot again' style of RPG is basically all the good episodes of the Mandalorian so I could see a KOTOR show working well
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Wolfsheim posted:Lindelof's Watchmen was as incoherent and directionless as the ST Really? It was coherent and understandable to me.
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I liked a lot about it, but...making the KKK gay rapist a secret black guy was definitely, uh, a choice.
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Halloween Jack posted:I liked a lot about it, but...making the KKK gay rapist a secret black guy was definitely, uh, a choice. They gotta stop giving Chapelle work.
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Halloween Jack posted:I liked a lot about it, but...making the KKK gay rapist a secret black guy was definitely, uh, a choice. The show takes a lot of liberties with the material, and Hooded Justice's identity never being confirmed gave them an opening to change his actual backstory. It has been a while since I've watched the series, but I think the Rolf Müller theory is the Hooded Justice shown in the superhero TV show. I feel like the change paid off. It's not perfect (I would have liked to have learned about what happened to Nite Owl), but it taught me more about the Tulsa race massacre than I ever learned in school (which was nothing). porfiria posted:They gotta stop giving Chapelle work. lmao
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