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Time_pants posted:Oh my God. The lawyer who won that huge case against Chevron in Ecuador, Steven Donzinger, did something similar. He sold shares of the payment Chevron was supposed to make so the indigenous plaintiffs could get paid sooner. Problem was that he was specifically barred from doing that as he had multiple judgements against him in the US over his conduct during the Ecuador suit that included halting that payout entirely. He's...not a good model for this type of plan.
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PhazonLink posted:never mind bitrot and bit decay of drives in ac buildings, but wouldnt a drive in a lireraly tonnage pile with decaying wet biomatter ruin it by now? And just sitting in a desk for years before the mechanical action of being thrown into a pile of refuse and probably shoveled, bulldozed and plowed. The data recovery firm might be positive but then, they wouldn't be in business if they weren't. All of those companies cite "99% rate of recovery!" but in practice there's a lot of caveats and fudging to get to that: we recovered some random pieces of some of your data so that counts as a success. I started out the story sympathetic - he'd mined at the best possible moment and moved on, losing a random windfall like that must be gutting - but he becomes such a total crypto bro by the end of the story, right down to handwaving technology (AI recognition of the drive) and alleging government conspiracies.
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*gets a pile of paper dust from a CIA safe house that they didnt burn yet* ah yes, so this paper atom was next to this paper atom. I recovered some sort ordered info. thats 1000$ please.
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PhazonLink posted:never mind bitrot and bit decay of drives in ac buildings, but wouldnt a drive in a lireraly tonnage pile with decaying wet biomatter ruin it by now? First thing I thought of as well.
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Betjeman posted:Half a billion at peak, that's an article from last year, no idea why it's resurfacing now Yea, this is where I got confused. Thought it was another idiot wanting to search through garbage.
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Jul 28, 2022 17:24
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If bitcoin can survive a nuclear holocaust it can survive a few years next to some wet wipes.
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Landfills can get real hot from decomposition as well.
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coolusername posted:A real crypto influencer would just sell the rights to a portion of the drive once found. Fund the search and get 10x returns when I regain my lost I'm somewhat surprised he didnt do this. Start a DAO, raise a bunch of funds promising to, I dunno, just buy the loving landfill. Details aren't important to credulous rubes. Then, when you have the money, ghost everyone and move to central america or something. No hard drive needed
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I will point out that selling a crypto token that represents shares of the Bitcoin found on the recovered drive would absolutely be considered a security. Not that that's stopped anyone so far, but it is definitely illegal unless it's registered as one.
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hey you know what else is illegal? https://twitter.com/tier10k/status/1552719668355469312 https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1552719890997469184
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Parkingtigers posted:Just make an NFT of the harddrive and boom, you have your half a billion dollars. This a lol Scam Likely posted:Is there a better way to HODL than to hide your BTC wallet 20ft under a landfill? I think not. This is also a lol
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drk posted:I'm somewhat surprised he didnt do this. You’re not thinking far enough. Start the DAO to raise money for buying the landfill, then start selling digging claims on parts of the landfill. There’s probably a third level that I just can't think of right now.
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Zopotantor posted:You’re not thinking far enough. Start the DAO to raise money for buying the landfill, then start selling digging claims on parts of the landfill. There’s probably a third level that I just can't think of right now. Selling NFTs of chunks of the landfill NFTWorld style.
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Zopotantor posted:You’re not thinking far enough. Start the DAO to raise money for buying the landfill, then start selling digging claims on parts of the landfill. There’s probably a third level that I just can't think of right now. Claim owners must sort and recycle metals to hand over to landfill management for no returned value.
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Zopotantor posted:You’re not thinking far enough. Start the DAO to raise money for buying the landfill, then start selling digging claims on parts of the landfill. There’s probably a third level that I just can't think of right now. Form a separate DAO to let people vote on which people get to dig on their claims first, so it's even more decentralized. Accept bets on which claim has the drive. Include parlays for dates and times. Livestream the search process and let donors bid on actual garbage as they see it. Mint NFTs of the items that get bought this way. Garbage all the way down.
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Trash mines are the future anyhow, if you think about it. Eventually it will be cheaper to mine trash for resources instead of mining them from ore.
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We'll fly you out and all you have to do is work off your debt to us*. *(Also, we'll sell you food and water, but that adds to your debt) (I'm literally just describing indentured servitude.)
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drk posted:I'm somewhat surprised he didnt do this. We are all aware this story is like 8 months old right? Did they have DAOs then? feedmegin fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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Cantorsdust posted:I will point out that selling a crypto token that represents shares of the Bitcoin found on the recovered drive would absolutely be considered a security. Not that that's stopped anyone so far, but it is definitely illegal unless it's registered as one. You gotta think like a rugpuller
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Jul 28, 2022 22:24
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Biff Rockgroin posted:Was there ever an official explanation for how Bitcoin was supposed to be superior to USD when it's only worth anything because you can trade it for USD? A big selling point for enthusiasts seems to be the lack of (((centralization)))
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nonathlon posted:The data recovery firm might be positive but then, they wouldn't be in business if they weren't. All of those companies cite "99% rate of recovery!" but in practice there's a lot of caveats and fudging to get to that: we recovered some random pieces of some of your data so that counts as a success. It would be fun if they found the hard drive, but then a data recovery firm just stole the key while “recovering” the data.
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Professor Shark posted:I agree that this is possibly some sort of weird buttcoin El Dorado The Hard Drive of El Dorhodl
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Jul 29, 2022 00:11
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Why? Is it just cuz it was at 20kish for a while? It's supposed to go down not up.
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Waltzing Along posted:Why? Is it just cuz it was at 20kish for a while? It's supposed to go down not up. All markets are irrational in the short term, and crypto markets are especially irrational because they're fueled by ignorant, toxic positivity and pure grift.
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RocketMermaid posted:The Hard Drive of El Dorhodl Bitcoin: The Hard Drive of El Dorhodl
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ET on Atari but it's a hard drive that never existed.
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Crypto is backed by grifts, scams, FOMO, and vibes.
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PhazonLink posted:never mind bitrot and bit decay of drives in ac buildings, but wouldnt a drive in a lireraly tonnage pile with decaying wet biomatter ruin it by now? Yes, the drive is more than likely completely ruined by now. But this is a crypto idiot. They know nothing about computers. If he does find the drive, he'll be shocked it even got dirty, let alone ruined by being filled with garbage water for a few years.
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data that valuable you could afford the real high end data recovery services; I imagine the biggest gamble would be that the platter got damaged directly somehow. no recovery method would be too esoteric or expensive.
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CoolCab posted:data that valuable you could afford the real high end data recovery services; I imagine the biggest gamble would be that the platter got damaged directly somehow. no recovery method would be too esoteric or expensive. Well, maybe not at current market prices... There also comes a time when the damage is just too extreme. This thing has been submerged in who loving knows what, compacted, bulldozed, exposed to extreme heat (decomposition gets surprisingly hot), left in the elements for years, and who even knows what else. There's a chance data could be recovered, but even then, it would likely be an incomplete recovery. Edit: and hell, it's possible that it got scavenged at some point between his home and the dump and isn't even there at all. The Bible fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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The Bible posted:There also comes a time when the damage is just too extreme. This thing has been submerged in who loving knows what, compacted, bulldozed, exposed to extreme heat (decomposition gets surprisingly hot), left in the elements for years, and who even knows what else. There's a chance data could be recovered, but even then, it would likely be an incomplete recovery. Yeah, ummm....what magic secret sauce do you think paying extra would get you exactly? If there was one they would already upsell you on it if regular data recovery wasn't sufficient. Money isn't a magic spell, there are things it can't fix no matter how much you have.
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Once I met a guy who was a professor studying data recovery, he said he could get data off drives that had been set on fire or smashed into multiple pieces. So I reckon there would be a non-zero chance of getting it in this case.
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Sailor Viy posted:Once I met a guy who was a professor studying data recovery, he said he could get data off drives that had been set on fire or smashed into multiple pieces. So I reckon there would be a non-zero chance of getting it in this case. I'm sure it's possible to get data off. Sometimes even multiple kilobytes of it!
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Sailor Viy posted:Once I met a guy who was a professor studying data recovery, he said he could get data off drives that had been set on fire or smashed into multiple pieces. So I reckon there would be a non-zero chance of getting it in this case. Yeah, using an electron microscope, he could recover literal bits of data, maybe even a few sequential bytes if he's super lucky.
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PhazonLink posted:never mind bitrot and bit decay of drives in ac buildings, but wouldnt a drive in a lireraly tonnage pile with decaying wet biomatter ruin it by now? Also don't forget that they use huge bulldozer type machines to move and compact the trash, so that hard drive is probably crushed and mangled too.
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Viscous Soda posted:Also don't forget that they use huge bulldozer type machines to move and compact the trash, so that hard drive is probably crushed and mangled too. So you're saying this is ths perfect time to mint an NFT of the hard drive?
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I'm pretty sure college profs and researchers scamming the DoD/NSA, etc for money for a lab setting result "yeah we technically did it" is a con as old as civilization. I mean good for them getting the money.
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