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NDP posted:It's a stupid argument to get worried about since taken to its logical extreme, it's applicable to everywhere on earth except for eastern Africa. In fact, Native Americans have a stronger claim to North and South America than "native" Europeans have to Europe since the latter group replaced the Neanderthals who were there before them. Guavanaut posted:I always thought the land bridge was the anti-colonialist take because walking there is different to turning up in boats and genociding everyone.
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Hihohe posted:This seems like an exact copy of that other comic. I had the same thought, it's this one by Matt Bors. 
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Raised By Birds posted:Marty Two Bulls Native Americans are literally a different species? I wonder why we’re able to interbreed? Where was our last common point of genetic ancestry? Is there even one at all? Or are we two entirely different forms of life altogether? Two biospheres on one planet? The questions raised here are terrifying in their implications.
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Angepain posted:I had the same thought, it's this one by Matt Bors. Holy poo poo, there is no way Rall didnt just say gently caress it and just copy this comic, with more words and worse art. Rall is the biggest loving hack
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Found a real doozy of a politoon from someone that I don't recall ever seeing in these threads (Bob Moran from the UK): He got fired from The Telegraph for being too offensive, which is uh, quite the accomplishment.
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Zero_Grade posted:Found a real doozy of a politoon from someone that I don't recall ever seeing in these threads (Bob Moran from the UK): Bob was posted itt before he got fired; since then he's been producing increasingly deranged and depressingly well-made material, like an artistic Dees. Ah, right, he's producing material for these shmucks (note there's an unrelated entity by the same name run by Omidyar): https://www.thedemocracyfund.ca/ Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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Zero_Grade posted:Found a real doozy of a politoon from someone that I don't recall ever seeing in these threads (Bob Moran from the UK): No EMF waves? At all? Wow that would be a big shame, I'll miss the loving sun
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The fact that one of those skeletons is clearly supposed to be Bill Gates may be the line between vaguely threatening and call the police.
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Zero_Grade posted:
That's... uh... okay, I'll just ask it, when he says "globalist scumbags", does he just mean "kill all non-white, non-christian, non-straight people"? I mean, I'm assuming that first part just from the whole "being let go from The Telegraph" bit, but still.
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Jul 29, 2022 16:09
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"Globalist" is just "the Jews", though specifically "International Jewry". He means kill the Jews.
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Jul 29, 2022 16:13
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Antigravitas posted:"Globalist" is just "the Jews", though specifically "International Jewry". Pretty sure the Bill Gates skeleton indicates that educated elites and all other "New People" should be exterminated.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Rall: Great Replacement Lol I had that shirt on the right as a kid. It was one of my favorites.
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IIRC, Marty’s religion posits this belief as well, so it gets into that conflict. I don’t know if anyone is making the “well they aren’t technically native  ” argument in modern times, but regardless of where you think the North American natives came from you can still debunk that argument and hold that, no, there in fact was no justification for the European’s genocide of the native populations.
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Discendo Vox posted:Ah, right, he's producing material for these shmucks (note there's an unrelated entity by the same name run by Omidyar): Absolutely would recommend anyone looking for just terrible awful cartoons to look through the democracy fund gallery and Bob's website, just absolute garbage opinions 
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Cloud Potato posted:Saw this on Twitter, thought the thread would enjoy it: https://twitter.com/MaleVTuber/status/1552906958218436608?t=cRPKpbsV24Y6TuM34wR1nw&s=19
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Stultus Maximus posted:Speaking of, I'm not exactly sure which stupidity he's trying to be edgy with, but it's stupid I mean, it's probably a "Long Covid is bullshit" take, but honestly it just feels like a standard Wally plot.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Pretty sure the Bill Gates skeleton indicates that educated elites and all other "New People" should be exterminated. A lot of Covid deniers think Bill Gates is a Jew, especially the kind of people who believe in The Great Reset. It's very popular in Qanon circles, where you also find other Greatest Hits of Antisemitism, like Blood Libel. You can tell the author is in that milieu. I don't want to hand it to the Torygraph, but yeah, probably a good idea to not have that person on…
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Pants Donkey posted:IIRC, Marty’s religion posits this belief as well, so it gets into that conflict. I don’t know if anyone is making the “well they aren’t technically native
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Neito posted:I mean, it's probably a "Long Covid is bullshit" take, but honestly it just feels like a standard Wally plot. Yeah, on the one hand, it feels like Scott Adams is making fun of people with long-term effects from Covid-19, on the other hand, this is exactly something he would have had Wally say back before the brainworms had fully set in. Wally is the same person who he had taking his vacarion in 15 minute increments, or an "in-cubical sabbatical" that had been going on 3 months before anyone noticed. That being said, this is Scott Adams, so I'll just assume it's the first thing and just say "gently caress you Scott Adams, I hope you suffer from long covid".
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The petulant children who hate being told what to do are very dismissive of Long Covid as it hurts their inane “It’s just a flu/cold” rhetoric. Which is not surprising, as chronic illness/disability is often chided by the bootstrap crowd as being embellished or outright faked to avoid work. Unless you are visibly missing limbs or in an iron lung you just need to suck it up and put your nose to the grindstone.
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Neito posted:I mean, it's probably a "Long Covid is bullshit" take, but honestly it just feels like a standard Wally plot. The use “privilege “ and “reparations “ makes me wary.
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Fister Roboto posted:To be fair it doesn't have a great track record. Terrible Opinions posted:It doesn't make Marty right, but I think this thread is general is less familiar with the stupid rear end racist claims people have made to justify colonialism. During the 2010s there was a brief spike in popularity of a claim that was a combination of the land bridge and Solutrean hypothesis. Specifically white supremecists claimed both happened but the earlier Solutrean migration across pack ice from Europe represents the white "original" owners of America who were then killed off by the people crossing the land bridge. This was what the dumb rear end poo poo claiming Kennweick Man was white were a part of. Pants Donkey posted:IIRC, Marty’s religion posits this belief as well, so it gets into that conflict. I don’t know if anyone is making the “well they aren’t technically native  As to the 'we've always been here thing,' like it's been said, even without potential religious beliefs getting into it (which they can and do) it's also a profoundly unfortunate but deeply-understandable backlash against a long, long, long history of settler society - anthropological and otherwise - either maliciously, ignorantly, blithely, or all-of-the-above doing everything it can to delegitimize indigenous claims to sovereignty and land rights, quite frequently while insisting it's just good science. Stuff like the growing pile of evidence showing the continually-increasing antiquity of human presence in the Americas certainly helps lend fuel to the fire, because it's both (1) proof that they've got good cause to consider themselves native inhabitants and (2) proof that American anthropology in general has dragged its feet on accepting evidence of that. The lousy outcome is (again, as others have said) that advancing that different groups of humans originated from wholly different sources is nothing but a complete freight train to shittyville, no matter what other cause you think you're aiming for when you say it. For very, very obvious reasons. Drakyn fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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oobey posted:Native Americans are literally a different species? I wonder why we’re able to interbreed? It’s silly, but it’s partially a sovereignty claim and a way to challenge mistreatment and subordinate status by the US—it’s based on traditional religious ideas among first-nations people that they were created from and have always belonged to their traditional lands. Contrast that with a US policy perspective that has seen First Nations people as not really deserving control of their own land and not really part of America, or as pests to be managed by forced relocation and extermination because the US needs their land. I find it hard to get too angry about. Treat like you would the story of Yakub: not literally true, but expressing essential moral truth that should be taken seriously.
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Alhazred posted:A theology that states that native americans, asian and other non-white and non-black ethnic groups are a byproduct made by an evil scientist does not express any moral truths. It asserts that black people aren’t inferior to white people, in a way that engages the same bad logic as scientific racism, albeit with self-conscious absurdity.
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I AM GRANDO posted:It asserts that black people aren’t inferior to white people, in a way that engages the same bad logic as scientific racism, albeit with self-conscious absurdity. It asserts that every non-white ethnic group are inferior to black people.
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Ever since the early Dilbert strips, the Pointy-Haired Boss has consistently been a greedy, unprincipled, stupid corporate rear end in a top hat executive who would throw any employee under a bus for any reason, or for no reason at all. The PHB is too bad at lying to conceal how heartless he is, and he usually doesn't bother to try. He's never been shown to have any redeeming qualities. In Adams' own words from one of his books, the PHB "wasn't born mean and unscrupulous; he's worked hard to become that way." Lately, Dilbert strips seem to be encouraging the reader to agree or sympathize with the PHB. It speaks to Adams' deteriorating mindset.
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Raised By Birds posted:
Raised By Birds posted:Gary Varvel
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Zero_Grade posted:Found a real doozy of a politoon from someone that I don't recall ever seeing in these threads (Bob Moran from the UK): He buried the Telegraph right in this picture. Of course it's offensive (to them). As opposed to the rest of it, which is offensive (to everybody else).
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Victar posted:Ever since the early Dilbert strips, the Pointy-Haired Boss has consistently been a greedy, unprincipled, stupid corporate rear end in a top hat executive who would throw any employee under a bus for any reason, or for no reason at all. The PHB is too bad at lying to conceal how heartless he is, and he usually doesn't bother to try. He's never been shown to have any redeeming qualities. In Adams' own words from one of his books, the PHB "wasn't born mean and unscrupulous; he's worked hard to become that way." It would be very interesting to ask the Scott of 1982 and the Scott of 2022 for their opinions on organized labor.
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Pants Donkey posted:It would be very interesting to ask the Scott of 1982 and the Scott of 2022 for their opinions on organized labor.
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Xander77 posted:Wasn't Dilbert panned from the start for not blaming corporations \ capitalism, and promoting "smart people should be in charge, it's so simple" over any systemic changes \ organized labor? The core conceit of Dilbert from the start has been that there's a few elites and a bunch of useless eaters, yes. He never used that phrase exactly, but he clearly thinks that anyone other than him and a handful of others are little more than philosophical zombies; beings of pure instinct that have cobbled together a veneer of sapience.
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Zero_Grade posted:Found a real doozy of a politoon from someone that I don't recall ever seeing in these threads (Bob Moran from the UK): Get a brain Moran
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Neito posted:The core conceit of Dilbert from the start has been that there's a few elites and a bunch of useless eaters, yes. He never used that phrase exactly, but he clearly thinks that anyone other than him and a handful of others are little more than philosophical zombies; beings of pure instinct that have cobbled together a veneer of sapience. Considering he used (and maybe still does?) the phrase "cow-orkers" to describe anyone other than his "intellectually superior" (because they read Dilbert) readers, he may have just as well used the phrase "useless eaters".
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Technowolf posted:Considering he used (and maybe still does?) the phrase "cow-orkers" to describe anyone other than his "intellectually superior" (because they read Dilbert) readers, he may have just as well used the phrase "useless eaters". cow-workers were just your moronic co-workers. In-duh-viduals were the morons who weren't smart enough to buy dilbert products.
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