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Digital Jedi posted:Alex is live on his show now instead of being at court lol the judge chewed him out yesterday for that she's going to throw her gavel at him
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Digital Jedi posted:Alex is live on his show now instead of being at court Contempt of court charge? Please? Throw his rear end in an Austin jail.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:24
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He can't be in court because his verbal diarrhoea and narcissistic personality disorder require him to regularly spout poo poo in front of a camera.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:27
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Robo Reagan posted:lol the judge chewed him out yesterday for that she's going to throw her gavel at him is this the same judge who was in the video discovering he was on the air when his defense lawyer said he was sick? if so she is gonna be super pissed
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StrangersInTheNight posted:is this the same judge who was in the video discovering he was on the air when his defense lawyer said he was sick? if so she is gonna be super pissed That was in CT.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:28
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I just found this thread on the Knowledge Fight subreddit. They were putting together some questions to ask the legal team after the trial should they be on the podcast but Ogden just started answering the questions this morning before the trial.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:28
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I just tuned in, who the gently caress is this guy?
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Jul 29, 2022 17:33
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Grand Fromage posted:I just tuned in, who the gently caress is this guy? An actual journalist as an expert witness.
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Grand Fromage posted:I just tuned in, who the gently caress is this guy? Retired journalist doing the whistle-stop version of the concept of journalistic ethics.
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Grand Fromage posted:I just tuned in, who the gently caress is this guy? The guy on the stand is an actual journalist sitting as expert witness on what this whole "responsible journalism" thing is, and the lawyer currently up is very bad at this whole "defense" thing.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:35
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Oh. Well that's no fun, bring back the clown car.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:36
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My twin sister is an attorney. One thing I have noticed about her (especially since going to law school) is that a lot of times when I talk to her, or when she asks me questions, I feel like the question she is asking me is not really the question she is asking me and it's really to get to some other information (not that she cross examines me or anything). Watching the attorney yesterday talk to Owen, it instantly made me think of my sister.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:36
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"But like, is harm even real? What even is defamation?"
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Jul 29, 2022 17:37
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Hah, in this case it really *is* about ethics in journalism!
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Grand Fromage posted:Oh. Well that's no fun, bring back the clown car. The defense lawyer is a big enough clown all on his own.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:38
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Tree Dude posted:The defense lawyer is a big enough clown all on his own. 
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Jul 29, 2022 17:40
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He's currently trying to get the guy to say that journalistic ethics don't exist if there's no script, as in a call-in show, or a man on the street interview. The thing being, Alex Jones often uses the information he gets from random callers as established fact in subsequent episodes.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:44
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Yeah he's trying to get the expert to say that all of the broad categories of things Alex does are ethically ok (i.e. ad hoc interviews), but the answer to all of these are "depends on the context." Like, its ethical to do "person on the street" interviews if you're trying to establish some sort of pulse of common opinion, but not if you're trying to establish facts about an event (unless those people were 1st party witnesses to the event in question). I actually think the witness isn't doing a great job of explaining why context matters but I'm also not sure if he's allowed to.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:46
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Defense seems to have slipped into defending Alex’s War from criticism hammering this idea that a documentarian just handing a freak a free platform is good journalism.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:47
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"Did Infowars physically force people to take in their exact point of view, the point of view they claim to be the One Truth against the Devil and the Globalists? No? Aquit!"
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Jul 29, 2022 17:50
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this motherfucking defense lawyer says "rother" like will menaker and now I really hate him
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Jul 29, 2022 17:51
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It feels like he’s really trying to get this witness to say that Alex is a journalist so he’s protected by free speech but not the kind that is bound by professional ethics or integrity. Or even the absolute bare minimum citations you’d expect from a grade schooler’s first book report. E: also lol at it being up to the viewers to do the editors’ job of separating fact from fiction. red19fire fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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Jul 29, 2022 17:53
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Stefan Prodan posted:this motherfucking defense lawyer says "rother" like will menaker and now I really hate him Random af but Seth McFarlane does this with every character he voices and it makes me seethe for no reason
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Jul 29, 2022 17:54
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Lots of sidebar this morning.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:58
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lmao he really tried to call it a mistrial
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Jul 29, 2022 18:01
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"A second phase for evidence regarding net worth" Can't wait to find out just how much money Alex/Infowars/FSS are really raking in.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:01
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Don't really understand the details, but the defense moved for a mistrial because they claimed the prosecution was arguing during the wrong phase of the trial and the Judge was like "Dude, the phase that you think is there doesn't exist. Its one phase."
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Jul 29, 2022 18:02
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That last objection was a chef's kiss moment.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:02
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He has called for a mistrial for some out-of-his-rear end reason after every single witness and will continue to do so as this progresses.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:02
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Do they even know what sort of court they're in?
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Trillhouse posted:lmao he really tried to call it a mistrial Motherfucker has done that every 2-3 hours since Tuesday.
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ryde posted:Don't really understand the details, but the defense moved for a mistrial because they claimed the prosecution was arguing during the wrong phase of the trial and the Judge was like "Dude, the phase that you think is there doesn't exist. Its one phase." In a standard bifurcated trial, they determine liability and damages for such in the first phase then move to the second phase for punitive damages. This trial, on the other hand, is bifurcated only insomuch that there is no discussion of Jones’ net worth in the first phase as that relates exclusively to the punitive damages. They also cannot discuss punitive damages in front of the jury or tell the jury there is a cap on punitive damages.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:06
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Still doing the ‘Alex is just a humble radio call-in show host, he has no control over what callers say’ routine. But as anyone who has tried to prank call a radio station would know, they have screeners who are supposed to keep the riff raff out. $100k a year to let any psycho call in seems like a great gig.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:06
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This time he did it because the plaintiff's attorneys brought forth evidence towards the compensatory damages, when this is the punitive damages phase, you honor! and the judge had to tell him that there are no separate phases for different kinds of damages.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:07
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Mr. Nice! posted:In a standard bifurcated trial, they determine liability and damages for such in the first phase then move to the second phase for punitive damages. This trial, on the other hand, is bifurcated only insomuch that there is no discussion of Jones’ net worth in the first phase as that relates exclusively to the punitive damages. They also cannot discuss punitive damages in front of the jury or tell the jury there is a cap on punitive damages. But basically the defense didn't understand the format of the trial, which is just a facepalm moment. The prosecution must be beside themselves with glee that they're working against such clowns.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:08
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Isn't that like basic prep for any witness ever? Answer only the question you are asked in as few words as possible is preparing for trial 101. Answering a question that is bad for you with Yes/No or a very simple sentence is almost always better than rambling about it trying to justify it. This is another area where the defense is really, really bad because even their rehearsed answers are too drat long. If Daria was a competent corporate representative almost all her answers would have been Yes/No/I do not know/I do not recall/Yes and (10 words or less).
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Lawlicaust posted:Answer only the question you are asked in as few words as possible is preparing for trial 101. Answering a question that is bad for you with Yes/No or a very simple sentence is almost always better than rambling about it trying to justify it. "Anything you say can and will be used against you" isn't just for the cops.
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Jul 29, 2022 18:15
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came for the jury asking Owen if he thinks they, the jury, are lizard people stayed for the everything else
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Digital Jedi posted:Alex is live on his show now instead of being at court lololol
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Please tell me he's complaining/discussing the trial.
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