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crepeface posted:lol cmon, that was obviously a shitpost. maybe it's worth a probe, but surely not a ban it's the kind of shitpost that sometimes costs you a $10 troll tax. our forum rules very clearly say that ironic bigotry is not allowed, and I (and other mods I asked to double check my work in case I was missing something) honestly couldn't find a way to read that post other than "being gay is unhealthy"
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The Saucer Hovers posted:i am hello, friend
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vyelkin posted:it's the kind of shitpost that sometimes costs you a $10 troll tax. our forum rules very clearly say that ironic bigotry is not allowed, and I (and other mods I asked to double check my work in case I was missing something) honestly couldn't find a way to read that post other than "being gay is unhealthy" acab but yeah good ban
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Dysthymia posted:Walgreens map got cleaned up for 07/21-07/27. Looks like positivity rate is going down slightly nationally. Weird, this was the graph yesterday:  e: guess that was before they added more test results.
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I think it's reasonable to believe a population wearing 100% surgicals is better protected than an equivalent population where 5% wear n95s or better (with varying degrees of mask discipline). 100% use of n95s might enable offices and schools to stay open with minimal disruption, in a culture that encourages ppe use on all the right ways (e.g., don't work hard to keep masks off of screens, and don't tell cops to arrest people not wearing masks). Even then, a community trained and practiced in transitioning to a zero-contact local economy have a powerful tool for minimizing disruption and loss of life. Such a hypothetical community would fare better through the coming years. But it's becoming difficult to find equivalent communities now. Like, we were afraid zika was going to cause hydroencepholy or whatever in unborn children 'round the world, but conditions varied enough between the equator and North Texas (in some undefined way) that zika got north and petered out. Anyhow, a year ago a wave went around Turtle Island, but it largely missed Michigan. The narrative at the time was that the lower peninsula has a wave of ... beta, was it? ... that ended more recently than the wild type wave that got everyone else, so either immunity was still up (relative to the broader continents population), or that Beta wave conferred more immunity to Delta than wild type did This is all from memory and I'm not a researcher or journalist, so I expect I have some details off here... But the waves that have got the US are not exactly the same as the waves that get Japan. And so if you take the set of humans on Turtle Island who have has 3 infection, and you plot which strains in what order, you get a particular signature. If you do the same in Asia (for example), you get a different, equally distinctive signature. And if you zoom more local or more global, the signature changes. The global is a function of the local in aggregate, but may not resemble any given local signature. Anyhow, how well a new strain spreads in a given population - and what kind of damage it does to infected persons - may depend as much on that population signature as it does on aggregate mask use or variant mutations. E: I think of it like starting a fire. You have a pile of good dry wood, some tinder, some kindling, some sticks and broke down limbs and maybe 3 rounds. The air-to-fuel ratio determines whether the fire grows. Too much wood, you smother it. Too much space between fuel, the fire goes out. If dry kindling is carefully placed (in the sacred geometry of any ancient culture; tipi, right angles, 5 pointed star, 6 pointed star, 7 pointed star, etc), and tinder is placed beneath and a spark introduced... You get 'complete combustion' with the sacred blue flame that illuminates and without black smoke and carbon dioxide filling your tipi or yurt or cabin. Superspreaders are people who share air with hundreds of people within some period of time. People who make a habit of not sharing air, will not serve as superspreaders. The equivalent is tinder. If a spark hits tinder, you get combustion. World travel ensures a constant presence of sparks on all communities globally. If it hits a piece of tinder, that tinder goes up. If it's surrounded by a bunch of tinder, that tinder also goes up - catching any sticks interwoven. If the tinder all burns out before the sticks catch, the fire goes out and most of your fuel remains unturned. Kindling can be an intermediate. Basically, this is non-superspreading. Pods that relax, get got, and pass it to another pod. Teenagers bringing it home from school, it passing to the parents, who pass it off at work. The tinder catches the kindling, the kindling coals up the sticks, and then you have to move everything around again to keep the blue flame. It starts to smoke and go out. And you have to repeat the same air-to-fuel ratio, but it's larger in scale, fractal. Nobody is rearranging the fire as it burns. The tinder (people who share air with hundreds in a given week) catches, and it hits a bunch of sticks, but eventually the fire burns out without 100% of people getting got. And what remains isn't arranged with the air-to-fuel ratio necessary for a spark to hit. Capitalism reassembles the remaining fuel (humans) back into something that will ignite if hit with a spark. The process can take weeks or months. Uglycat has issued a correction as of 18:57 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:North Dakota, Maine and Mississippi finally fell to the 'pox: Alaska just got got down to 3
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Definitely going to stock up on vinegar, oxyclean, and bleach for produce / clothes, but does anyone have any insights on how people can disinfect their pets after vet appointments? And I guess themselves too if they ever have to go indoors?
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I keep trying to get work done, and then I remember that any day I could catch covid and/or monkey pox and it feels futile.
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Malgrin posted:I keep trying to get work done, and then I remember that any day I could catch covid and/or monkey pox and it feels futile. you've got the wrong attitude. well idk if you're American or whatever. but i just remind myself i was going to work myself to death anyways and at least this way i get die with my rear end in a top hat exploding in disease heroically
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Definitely going to stock up on vinegar, oxyclean, and bleach for produce / clothes, but does anyone have any insights on how people can disinfect their pets after vet appointments? And I guess themselves too if they ever have to go indoors? use a blow dryer on ur parakeet to gently blast off the monkeys pox
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Steve Yun posted:what’s this % in each state up to date on covid vaccination
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The Spanish Ministry of Health has confirmed one monkeypox death, but no further details so far:quote:A total of 135 patients of the 2,353 (7%) presented complications throughout their clinical process. The most frequent were secondary bacterial infections and mouth ulcers. https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1553061442076680192
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NeonPunk posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Rpshahmemorial1/status/1553075920000679938 I think if you’ve got pustules they’ve got live virus in there like a gusher
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How up-to-date is the thread guide for getting pax? The front page of findcovidcare.com has changed and the very first instruction (click "Request Treatment") is no longer there. It's been replaced, I'm guessing, by "Online consultation & prescription". But I'm not 100% sure. https://twitter.com/ToonyGoons/status/1524538401839628289 I ask mostly because I want to send this to an older relative who may not be awesome at figuring things out if the site has modestly changed.
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Malgrin posted:I keep trying to get work done, and then I remember that any day I could catch covid and/or monkey pox and it feels futile. recovery begins when the amount of pain we get from an negative set of behaviors outweighs whatever benefits we get from it just survive long enough for a large enough proportion of the shitheads to die which will in turn flip the pleasure/pain ratio for the rest of the population to make a change all of our current problems don’t actually take a lot of time to stop their exacerbation, just political will anyway this is how I hope
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The Saucer Hovers posted:virus is stored in the puss puss and pussy just a letter away, one can mean the other but not the other way around, makes u think
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Captain Magic posted:puss and pussy just a letter away, one can mean the other but not the other way around, makes u think women CANNOT get monkeypox. this is MISINFORMATION and HOMOPHOBIA
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The Spanish Ministry of Health has confirmed one monkeypox death, but no further details so far: Cool we are really doing this lol
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Strep Vote posted:Cool we are really doing this lol very very mild
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how long does monkeypox take to kill you? wondering if rumors of mildness were exaggerated
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Fairly young guy as well, was undergoing lymphoma treatment ahh yes but what about the comorbidities?! 
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TheLemonOfIchabod posted:how long does monkeypox take to kill you? wondering if rumors of mildness were exaggerated yeah like if takes months after symptoms start to die or if the 3-6% mortality for this strain is more like 0% in 20-50 year old men and 10% mortality in the very old and very young, then we may have been lured into a false sense of security by the low death rates over these last few months too bad it wasnt endemic for decades and no data exists on this mystery virus that came out of nowhere gotta just wait for it to start killing westerners before we can determine that it can kill westerners
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i think we're gonna have to face the fact that statistically we probably won't die of exploding puss butt disease
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TheLemonOfIchabod posted:how long does monkeypox take to kill you? wondering if rumors of mildness were exaggerated you have 13 months left
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hekaton posted:yeah like if takes months after symptoms start to die or if the 3-6% mortality for this strain is more like 0% in 20-50 year old men and 10% mortality in the very old and very young, then we may have been lured into a false sense of security by the low death rates over these last few months
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speng31b posted:i think we're gonna have to face the fact that statistically we probably won't die of exploding puss butt disease I think you're counting Marburg out a little early there buddy
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Strep Vote posted:Cool we are really doing this lol good news, most of the hospitalizations aren't because the patient's life is threatened, but because of continuous, horrendous pain https://twitter.com/basophil_brett/status/1553040209507385346?t=uqFQTh9tP86na3HluTmQOA&s=19
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*counting up where I’m experiencing symptoms for my doctor* hmm, let’s see, my neck, my back (BA5), my pus(sy) and my crack (monkeypox)
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Jigsaw posted:*counting up where I’m experiencing symptoms for my doctor* lmfao
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i notice that the goalpost has moved from "september" to "this winter" already https://twitter.com/drogon_dracarys/status/1553091479530340352
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U-DO Burger posted:good news, most of the hospitalizations aren't because the patient's life is threatened, but because of continuous, horrendous pain taking opiods for pain which makes you constipated which will cause more pain is some 🤣 hospitals got enough of the good stuff or find a fentanyl hookup we’re doomed
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The Spanish Ministry of Health has confirmed one monkeypox death, but no further details so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYkWkbhetA&t=11s
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What's the best diet for zero poops and gas (farts)?
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