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garfield hentai
Feb 29, 2004

Katamari Democracy posted:

Some even call it cheating

It's interesting how for how similar the games are how different some of these sort of "meta" bits are, like how playing super conservative is considered cheating with PIU whereas arcades will have "do not put baby powder on the DDR pads" signs up because talcing up the pads for "stamina play" (shuffling around, lifting your legs as little as possible) is such a common high level practice, or how PIU doesn't allow bar use for competitions but every high level DDR player I've seen is adhered to the bar the whole time

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djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




The biomechanics of PIU are just more natural IMO and don’t lend themselves to adhering to a bar I think.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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djfooboo posted:

The biomechanics of PIU are just more natural IMO and don’t lend themselves to adhering to a bar I think.

Phone posting but ill edit this out later. But the bars are legal in both piu and ddr due to safety concerns. Used to do a lot of tournaments and can say people who complain about the bar can be shot into the sun.

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

I didn’t know even a single person cared about bar vs. no bar in 2022.

Part of me wants to build a bar for my home setup because the upper tier of 16s is just brutal without a bar. I still haven’t passed a 17 yet just due to lack of stamina.

But playing no bar is way better exercise, so it’s a decent trade off.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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Freestyling is great exersize AND it looks cool if you perform comfortably. H.O.T is a prime example. No pun intended.

Edit- Just also wanted to go a little further but starting out a lot of new players do not necessarily use the bar unless they feel uncomfortable with the layout. DDR is no exception, but it really depends on player preference and skill.

I have seen players perform very well without using the bar, but to me using it is more comfortable, and I have met others who like to laugh and taunt at people who use them. I do not really talk to those people and thankfully they are very few of them.

But as you climb into the much harder difficulties and when the game throws very rapid fire stairs and twists then its easy to get caught up and trip. That's why the bar is there as a safety precaution and to prevent players from falling and breaking their necks or hurting other players around them.

Sorceress Elise S23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ_FHAQX1P8

Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jul 23, 2022

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind
So this is a thing

https://twitter.com/itsJevette/status/1548761046898204672

I saw this happen at my local R1 last weekend. Kind of hilarious, actually.

baby puzzle
Jun 3, 2011

I'll Sequence your Storm.
Do you man the dance handle?

IMO it is justifiable.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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baby puzzle posted:

Do you man the dance handle?

IMO it is justifiable.

I always wear protection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOdByGe9bbA

midwifecrisis
Jul 5, 2005

oh, have I got some GREAT news for you!

Dance around is such a busted piece of trash, why does my R1 need two of them!

I got my first 8 in iidx a couple weeks ago. After slamming my head against more of them I've switched to playing lower randoms to get used to the bullshit chords that start appearing now.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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MopeMope S20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fmz38fPYpQ

garfield hentai
Feb 29, 2004

Are these PC-only simfiles that are meant to be played on a keyboard, or are there actually legit PIU tracks that have you do two directions + center simultaneously? I was never good enough at DDR to get into ITG but I remember hearing that game also had some 3- or 4-at-once steps as well. Were you supposed to use your hands, or kind of smash your feet down at a weird angle, or what?

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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garfield hentai posted:

Are these PC-only simfiles that are meant to be played on a keyboard, or are there actually legit PIU tracks that have you do two directions + center simultaneously? I was never good enough at DDR to get into ITG but I remember hearing that game also had some 3- or 4-at-once steps as well. Were you supposed to use your hands, or kind of smash your feet down at a weird angle, or what?

The .ssc files used in the software I use is also connected with official user custom steps and the official stepcharts from the arcades.

You can legit make your own feet / hand pads at home which is also what I use.

As for your second question; those steps use heel to toe. One foot can hit two steps as long as the foot is pointing in the direction of the notation from the mindset of heel to toe.

Requiem S23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LePCJEp44Qs

Edit: Had a friend of mine join me while I suffered on a bad song. It's awful and I am warning you.

Bust Back S17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYVZ6nvYoD0

Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jul 30, 2022

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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Double postin' more Pump it Up stuff. This past weekend I finally got through my thick skull on managing certain step patterns that and also remembering to speed up past X4 on certain charts so I can manage to read closeup steps better in the future.

Everybody should know this song. But I was stuck on learning how to read this for weeks without going past X4 and once I did and learned the pattern it made life so much easier (And goofy because you have to do a lot of twists and heel stepping to get right)

Conga S21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NByWUjM5pw

This next song is more stamina and twist focused. And it does not give up. Given the name and how big of a reputation it has I am sure you can understand why:

Bee S22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hf1fHJUJtQ

And finally, every cabnet version of Pump it Up has one song that is cruel and unusual. In the later stages on S26 watching it looks borderline impossible, and hell even Doubles very few people in the world can actually stage pass the song. But yesterday was a big milestone for me being able to finally read and beat a song (Granted at S23 but still)

1949 S23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0uDXAr9-g

So yeah, pretty big week for me! Also leveled up again!

garfield hentai
Feb 29, 2004
https://twitter.com/IIDX_OFFICIAL/status/1554754477428977664

People complained about how dumb "Bistrover" was but at least it was unique, "Resident" just reminds me of junk mail

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

As someone who just started messing around with the IIDX cabs at Round1 a few weeks ago I hope the UI is better because I extremely do not understand the point of the channels and whatnot on Cast Hour is. I love that Konami’s “English available!” basically comes down to translating like 4 absolutely mission critical menu items to English and leaving everything else Japanese.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Potassium Problems
Sep 28, 2001
my local Round 1 got SDVX valkyrie cabs in, they're great to play on and it's awesome to finally have access to blaster gate, ΩDimension & hexa diver. just wish konami would give us valkyrie generator too

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

is the difference just the 120hz screen? R1 got one here as well but I’ve just been using the regular cabs since I’m still really new to the game and there’s been a line for the valk

Potassium Problems
Sep 28, 2001
hardware wise the screen size is bigger (43 inch vs 32 for regular cabs), 120hz and I think the stock spring/switch changed (100g switches, 20g springs?). the regular cabs just have access to light start, which means you can't do any of the song unlock events so there's a solid chunk of songs from those events you just don't have access to. when you're scrolling the song list and you see a song with a lock icon, that's a song that's gated behind one of those events.

with the valk cab, standard and blaster start are enabled so not only can we finally unlock those songs, we also get ex track, ARS, and even premium time. the only thing we don't have is valkyrie generator which is the in-game gacha for unlocking cosmetics like navigators, bgm, touch screen backgrounds, etc.

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010

holefoods posted:

is the difference just the 120hz screen? R1 got one here as well but I’ve just been using the regular cabs since I’m still really new to the game and there’s been a line for the valk

Gameplay wise 120hz is a big different yes, lasers feel way more responsive than on the old cabs. The new buttons are really satisfying to hit, also the new knobs use ball bearings which feels nicer and will make them last longer. Valk cabs also allow for use of premium time which is great for grinding PUCs/grade raises, and the aforementioned standard/blaster starts which are now a necessity for unlocks.

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

Getting closer and closer to completely conquering my teenage nemesis (yes, I do play other songs - I just revisit this every few weeks to see how I am improving).



I also passed a ton of 16s, but I still can't get even halfway through any of the "easy" 17s.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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I thought the guy who did MAX 300 was the same guy here:

D S18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1RCW6QClE

But Max 300 is a song i have not heard in a very long time. That brings me back.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


I'm still working on getting back into boss songs and I managed a 911k on MAX 300 a few months ago, which feels pretty great. Even when I was much younger and that song was brand-new I would usually run out of gas not long after the freeze. Nowadays it's not an issue for me.

I'd like to de-rust IIDX again. At least this time coming back, I can still reliably clear all the 9's and a few of the easy 10's. :v: I also need to plan a Round 1 trip so I can transfer my old Bistrover data before I lose it.

DizzyBum fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 8, 2022

Potassium Problems
Sep 28, 2001
yesterday was productive, cleared the 1st course for skill lv. 11 & barely cleared び MXM, but I carried the combo through the 8 measure one-button drumroll :cabot:

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


Potassium Problems posted:

yesterday was productive, cleared the 1st course for skill lv. 11 & barely cleared び MXM, but I carried the combo through the 8 measure one-button drumroll :cabot:



There was a SDVX showcase during GDQ last month and it was mindblowing. び was one of the songs they played, too.

One day I'd like to invest in a SDVX controller and git gud at it. It's really fun!

Potassium Problems
Sep 28, 2001

DizzyBum posted:

There was a SDVX showcase during GDQ last month and it was mindblowing. び was one of the songs they played, too.

One day I'd like to invest in a SDVX controller and git gud at it. It's really fun!

that session was incredible, not only because the player was stupidly good, but also because of the announcers. they knew what they were talking about, knew the history of the game, even pointing out little details on songs like the nemsys graphic transitioning across the different SDVX versions through the middle of XHRONOXAPSULΞ

I decided to pick up SDVX a couple of years ago since I was stalling out on IIDX, and I haven't looked back. if you do pick up a controller, it'll be worth it!

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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Someone gifted me a dubstep song as a challenge to read this person's step and while I am not a big fan of Dubstep; this stepchart is a real visual pain to look at.

Nuclear (Hands up) S21 User Custom Step
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_84n17ah3c

The holds really are generous for keeping your lifebar up. There is also a bit of studying to view that backward step nonsense.

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

holefoods posted:

As someone who just started messing around with the IIDX cabs at Round1 a few weeks ago I hope the UI is better because I extremely do not understand the point of the channels and whatnot on Cast Hour is. I love that Konami’s “English available!” basically comes down to translating like 4 absolutely mission critical menu items to English and leaving everything else Japanese.

No worries, it's just an overly-involved song unlock mechanism. It changes completely with each game, but it's almost always "just keep pushing buttons to get it over with" (no right or wrong way to do it.) Lately, new IIDX releases come with about half of their songs unlocked and ready to play, with another chunk needing to be unlocked, and the rest trickle in over time via OTA updates.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

enojy posted:

No worries, it's just an overly-involved song unlock mechanism. It changes completely with each game, but it's almost always "just keep pushing buttons to get it over with" (no right or wrong way to do it.) Lately, new IIDX releases come with about half of their songs unlocked and ready to play, with another chunk needing to be unlocked, and the rest trickle in over time via OTA updates.

Oh okay, I am not going to worry about the channels at all next time I play then because I can barely pass 3s reliably so I’ll worry about that later lol, thanks!

Beffica
Apr 6, 2009

by Azathoth
Just got the Hori drum and it is a total game changer. I wish it was more sensitive but I am not about to drop the money and labor on installing the sensitivity mod. What are my options for Taiko clones on PC and Android that support this?

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Beffica posted:

Just got the Hori drum and it is a total game changer. I wish it was more sensitive but I am not about to drop the money and labor on installing the sensitivity mod. What are my options for Taiko clones on PC and Android that support this?

I don’t know anything about clones but most people playing arcade rhythm games at home are pirating the actual games since most of them run on windows directly.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Beffica posted:

Just got the Hori drum and it is a total game changer. I wish it was more sensitive but I am not about to drop the money and labor on installing the sensitivity mod. What are my options for Taiko clones on PC and Android that support this?

Installing the don mods - which is swapping out the foam inserts for something more stiff - wasn't too bad and produced a noticeable improvement. The ka mods are a little finickier. I did them a couple times (increasing the amount of extra material the second time), and I'm pretty sure there was a difference, but it wasn't the highly noticeable thing that the plates were.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Beffica posted:

Just got the Hori drum and it is a total game changer. I wish it was more sensitive but I am not about to drop the money and labor on installing the sensitivity mod. What are my options for Taiko clones on PC and Android that support this?

OpenTaiko is your best bet if you don't want to go the :filez: route and there is a pack of all official songs in simulator format out there as well.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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Okay game. You won.

This S30 is popular in the community as being extremely stamina intensive and they were not lying. My legs are shaking from this. But the rush feels awesome at least:

Blue Army S30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGZikDWPB0A

Also was able to finally legally pass an S25. Only one more to go until I have mastered singles!

Achluoias S25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByyE_5jer3g

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

Hey I finally got my Twitch set up. It sucks for now but maybe not so bad? Playing barless 12-16 DDR and maybe some doubles.

Twitch.tv/dantheman650

Come tell me how to improve my audio or whatever.

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

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I got a couple of weird songs I have been dancing to lately.

This one is a visual trip in some instances. It's not really difficult to read unless you enjoy distractions. Other than that this song is pretty straight forward and at least has some fun steps.

MDMA S18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpD9-V1wDw

This next song I am going to let it speak for itself. But the video itself is :nws: for -- well...

Pepsiman! S23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vvnTOtjv4

Finally this song isn't really an oddball but I actually like this song and it owns. Someone from vietnam gifted me this song and I enjoy it Even though I still fail at 1/32nd rapid fire steps

King for a Day S22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQs_YrbtRgo

Labor day weekend planning on going to an arcade and playing doubles. For my birthday later this month I plan on getting another pad to play so I don't have to drive 90 miles.

Edit- I just did a very hard song:

Malacious S21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4_JDQ8Jes

Katamari Democracy fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 4, 2022

mes
Apr 28, 2006

Anyone got an invite code to https://kamaitachi.xyz/ they don't mind giving out?

I recently got back into playing IIDX Infinitas wanted to check out a score tracker.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Well that's a way to find out VJ Army died off at some point when I wasn't looking. drat.

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

Getting really close to my first AAAA. It's so insanely difficult to shave off the last few perfects.

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DanAdamKOF
Feb 11, 2007

secretly best girl posted:

Well that's a way to find out VJ Army died off at some point when I wasn't looking. drat.

The successor is http://iidx.solidstatesquad.com

When they changed over they let you import your old scores, that was like 10 years ago so I’m not sure how to move them over now

DanAdamKOF fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Sep 7, 2022

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