|
Russian National Charged With Spreading Propaganda Through U.S. Groups Federal authorities say the man recruited several American political groups and used them to sow discord and interfere with elections. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/29/us/russian-indictment-florida.html Here's the DoJ announcement: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiring-have-us-citizens-act-illegal-agents-russian-government Here's the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1523096/download This isn't like most Russian influence operations because it's really obvious; dude ran a publicly visible entity, "The Anti-globalization Movement of Russia", that was pretty directly funded. This particular proxy was apparently channeling funds and other support to at least three groups in the US. The only one named in the article is the International People's Democratic Uhuru Movement, a minor independent party active in St. Petersberg, FL... But it's not hard to find at least one part of his network of entities, because he used to run a website that displayed the activities of the Movement, and would announce doing things like bringing proxy organization leaders to meetings in Russia. http://anti-global.ru/?lang=en One of the other orgs mentioned in the article can thus be identified as the Yes California secession campaign(whose site has now gone down): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 02:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 11:07 |
|
|
I mean cool, but the fundamental problem is many many stupid americans want to buy dumb messages and ideas.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 02:52
|
|
|
PhazonLink posted:I mean cool, but the fundamental problem is many many stupid americans want to buy dumb messages and ideas. Reading through the indictment a second time, looks like the main pattern for this program was separatist movement groups; he also recruited and/or set up groups in Ukraine, Spain, the UK, and Ireland. edit: It also appears at least all of the unindicted coconspirators (the heads of the US proxy organizations) knew exactly what they were doing. lol the FSB straight up wrote some of their messaging and brought them to Russia to do things like meet with DPR leaders and coordinate strategy. They even had the proxy groups record propaganda to be shown in the DPR! Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jul 30, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 02:57
|
|
|
Velocity Raptor posted:I'm legit interested in what made Manchin turn around on the bill and have him come out and ask for more of the things that will actually help people. This is incredibly out of the character he's portrayed for the past two years. Manchin 2024.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 03:06
|
|
|
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-admin-quietly-approves-construction-090950910.htmlAP posted:"Not another foot."
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 04:06
|
|
|
GoutPatrol posted:Reading this gave me a big hearty it reads more like a shitpost than any shitpost I've ever made
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 04:35
|
|
|
Twincityhacker posted:Since I watch a ton of Emergency! my mind actually went more towards "why do they have a bill specfically for California Highway Patrol ( CHiPs)?" My man... 
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 07:20
|
|
|
Timeless Appeal posted:Intelligence is real, it's just not an easily quantified D&D stat. In the sense that it describes many barely related or totally unrelated skills, sure. Like diction and subject knowledge are part of a layman's idea of intelligence. Spacial reasoning, inference, perceptiveness, critical thinking, and more. The fact that a person who can eloquently debate on the fly and someone who can crunch numbers in their head both conform to somebody's idea of intelligence tells me all I need to know about the concept. Intelligence is just an impression of competence. And whether or not we value the field of competence determines whether or not we call it intelligence. I'm not a scientist or a doctor so I can't speak to more clinical definitions but I would still be very skeptical.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 08:43
|
|
|
intelligence aint real cause everyones dumb as hell, me included
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 13:46
|
|
|
World Famous W posted:intelligence aint real cause everyones dumb as hell, me included Intelligence is real and easily quantifiable. It raises your spell slot caps and increases your critical hit chance with non-physical abilities.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 13:53
|
|
|
For some reason this morning I was thinking about who would play Trump in a movie and settled on Jon Voight
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 14:11
|
|
|
So this gets a probe:A big flaming stink posted:Do not in any way, shape, or form, say that two children got the infection from MSM. Do not say it on live television, do not say it off the cuff. There is no world in which saying "MSM gave kids this infection" will do anything but inspire frothing hatred against queer people in general. But this doesn't: silence_kit posted:Yeah, the so-called experts at the CDC and the WHO need to take a few lessons in statistics. Confirmation bias much??? smh Stay classy, D&D mods. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 16:34
|
|
|
And now for something extremely surprising. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1553384932533231618 Driving the news: Sinema has given no assurances to colleagues that she’ll vote along party lines in the so-called “vote-a-rama” for the $740 billion bill next week, according to people familiar with the matter. The vote-a-rama process allows lawmakers to offer an unlimited number of amendments, as long as they are ruled germane by the Senate parliamentarian. Senators — and reporters — expect a late night. Republicans, steaming mad that Democrats have a chance to send a $280 billion China competition package and a massive climate and health care bill to President Biden, will use the vote-a-rama to force vulnerable Democrats to take politically difficult votes. They'll also attempt to kill the reconciliation package with poison pills — amendments that make it impossible for Schumer to find 50 votes for final passage. The intrigue: Not only is Sinema indicating that she's open to letting Republicans modify the bill, she has given no guarantees she’ll support a final “wrap-around” amendment, which would restore the original Schumer-Manchin deal.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 16:43
|
|
|
much like how it was probatable to call the concentration camps for immigrants concentration camps just after Biden was elected, pushing back against characterization of monkeypox as a disease exclusive to gay people is currently considered Stifling Debate. incidentally, Biden just authorized building a big, beautiful wall at the Mexican border, to keep those gosh-darned illegals from bringing their drugs into our country. https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1552896211937632256?s=20 really curious who they think they're appealing to with this, tbh
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 16:44
|
|
|
Mendrian posted:In the sense that it describes many barely related or totally unrelated skills, sure. What intelligence isn't though, but it gets used as, is some broad quantification of net intellectual skills and knowledge. That's what I mean when I call it a D&D stat. And that is pretty useless as are things like IQ tests.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 16:53
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:much like how it was probatable to call the concentration camps for immigrants concentration camps just after Biden was elected, pushing back against characterization of monkeypox as a disease exclusive to gay people is currently considered Stifling Debate. Why should Republicans hog all the refugee carcasses?
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 16:58
|
|
|
I honestly think that they believe Republicans will support Biden for things like this
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 17:05
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:really curious who they think they're appealing to with this, tbh Even though it only specifically mentions Mark Kelly in the article, I half wonder if part of the timing/reason for this is to help convince Sinema to vote yes on the IRA
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 17:06
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:much like how it was probatable to call the concentration camps for immigrants concentration camps just after Biden was elected, pushing back against characterization of monkeypox as a disease exclusive to gay people is currently considered Stifling Debate. Donors, possibly. Also they probably genuinely believe that regulation of immigration is desirable and requires action like this.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 17:18
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:much like how it was probatable to call the concentration camps for immigrants concentration camps just after Biden was elected, pushing back against characterization of monkeypox as a disease exclusive to gay people is currently considered Stifling Debate. Same as always. All those mythical hardcore independent MAGA voters that will magically shift over to vote for democrats if we just behave more like them and continue to allow them to frame issues. I keep saying, man, if we're gonna go down in flames with a 33% approval rating while the country burns and still get called far left liberal leftist radical commies, let's at least die on our sword and live or die with that actual agenda. Instead, the democratic party seems to be consistently mired in this idiotic "I love cops, worship job creators and hate immigrants too! Vote for US!" thinking for one second that your average FOX News talk radio listening FB uncle is going to notice or sway themselves out of the idea that we drink the blood of unborn children under the orders of Lord Soros. EDIT: And, yeah, FWIW, I don't understand the arbitrary application of probes in this thread either and feel like I'm rolling the dice pretty much any time I write anything here and with no real clarity offered when I read the reason for it. We'll see how this one goes USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 30, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 17:19
|
|
|
There's a stickied feedback thread where commentary on probations and moderation is welcome and appreciated.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 18:02
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:really curious who they think they're appealing to with this, tbh They are attempting to appeal to suburban independents, republicans and Democrats that think the border and the immigrants crossing it are a problem. Timeless Appeal posted:Intelligence exists in your ability to acquire and apply knowledge. It's important to recognize intelligence as an actual thing because how we actually do this varies from person to person. For us to have fair and equitable education, we actually do have to recognize that there is a quality to how people take in information that varies from person to person. So, yeah, I think intelligence matters and is real. What is measured as IQ may not be a general measure of the ability to apply knowledge but specific knowledge like obedience or what is taught in certain homes (these are just examples) Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 30, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 18:48
|
|
|
Cranappleberry posted:They are attempting to appeal to suburban independents, republicans and Democrats that think the border and the immigrants crossing it are a problem. Yeah the mainstream response you're going to get from most people if you ask them "do you think illegal immigration is a serious problem" is going to be "absolutely, we should do something about it". If you ask them why they'll talk about increased crime, or a drain on public resources, or how it's unfair that some people are entering illegally instead of going through proper channels(despite how risky that is and how long and hard it is to go through proper channels). Low to normal information voters basically go with the gut feeling of "open borders are bad and the border should be secured because if you can't come in legally than you must be coming for shifty reasons".
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:00
|
|
|
Biden is positive for COVID again. Hopefully it does its job this time. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:07
|
|
|
Dante80 posted:And now for something extremely surprising. It is nothing short of ironic that the one thing Joe Manchin actually wants to get past the senate is now going to be destroyed by some weird selfish contrarian dipshit who for once somehow isn't actually Joe Manchin himself. If the guy had a shred of self awareness he'd be like "Oh poo poo, this is how it feels when I do it people, isn't it? This sucks." Joe Manchin lives in hell. And it's kinda sweet... except for that part where we all die thanks to climate change because Kyrsten Sinema was distracted by an Oreo and hip wiggled a cutesy No vote on the future of human civilization.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:08
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:It is nothing short of ironic that the one thing Joe Manchin actually wants to get past the senate is now going to be destroyed by some weird selfish contrarian dipshit who for once somehow isn't actually Joe Manchin himself. If the guy had a shred of self awareness he'd be like "Oh poo poo, this is how it feels when I do it people, isn't it? This sucks." "Distracted by an Oreo?" What is that supposed to mean? 
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:13
|
|
|
Professor Beetus posted:"Distracted by an Oreo?" What is that supposed to mean? The woman literally once answered a question from a journalist about her policy positions and legislative strategy with, I'm not making this up, "I'm going to go get a cookie." She's either a shitpost in human form, or isn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards and probably should not be a United States Senator either way. https://twitter.com/pabloreports/status/1529631169834360832
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:18
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:The woman literally once answered a question from a journalist about her policy positions and legislative strategy with, I'm not making this up, "I'm going to go get a cookie." She's either a shitpost in human form, or isn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards and probably should not be a United States Senator either way. As a type 1 diabetic that's the most relatable thing I've ever heard an elected official say.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:25
|
|
|
cat botherer posted:So this gets a probe: Cat botherer raises a good point. The CDC is wrong to call this a gay disease. That’s actually a really important point to make, and people who say otherwise are wrong. We shouldn’t invite people to continue wrong and offensive things. Some discussion should be stifled. Gripweed fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 30, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 20:39
|
|
|
Cranappleberry posted:What is measured as IQ may not be a general measure of the ability to apply knowledge but specific knowledge like obedience or what is taught in certain homes (these are just examples) It’s not this simple and you should read this: Ungifted https://a.co/d/15qvA0U Edit For the lazy an interview with the author https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-youre-smarter-than-you-think/id1028908750?i=1000566299176
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:00
|
|
|
Gripweed posted:Cat botherer raises a good point. The CDC is wrong to call this a gay disease. That’s actually a really important point to make, and people who say otherwise are wrong. We shouldn’t invite people to continue wrong and offensive things. Some discussion should be stifled. It’s good for gay men to know monkey pox is spreading in ways similar to sexual transmission in their community. Stifling some discussions is harmful. Expect it to spread in larger society the same way soon enough.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:07
|
|
|
Gripweed posted:We shouldn’t invite people to continue wrong and offensive things. No we should not tolerate the exaggeration of technical statements into moral statements as a rhetorical tool. It’s sophistry.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:11
|
|
|
Gripweed posted:Cat botherer raises a good point. The CDC is wrong to call this a gay disease. That’s actually a really important point to make, and people who say otherwise are wrong. We shouldn’t invite people to continue wrong and offensive things. Some discussion should be stifled. Speaking of wrong, when did the CDC call it a gay disease? DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jul 30, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:12
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:The woman literally once answered a question from a journalist about her policy positions and legislative strategy with, I'm not making this up, "I'm going to go get a cookie." She's either a shitpost in human form, or isn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards and probably should not be a United States Senator either way. She's big-leaguing the journalist, OP
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:14
|
|
|
DeadlyMuffin posted:Speaking of wrong, when did the CDC call it a gay disease? They didn't explicitly, they simply messaged in such a way that it can be easily inferred. I've posted earlier in the thread the AP specifically identifying it as a gay male STD.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:28
|
|
|
FlamingLiberal posted:I honestly think that they believe Republicans will support Biden for things like this I don't think the Dems are that stupid. They're doing it for the same reason the Rs are doing it - more money for construction and security companies.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:31
|
|
|
Jaxyon posted:they simply messaged in such a way that it can be easily inferred. Walenski is very bad at understanding how regular people talk and are incentivized to act and demonstrated that through the phrasing she used yet again. Her incautious phrasing can be misrepresented to cause harm. And that originates from a bubbled life of privilege. Gripweed, see how easy a much more solid point can be made.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:36
|
|
|
Jaxyon posted:They didn't Yeah, that's my point.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 21:37
|
|
|
DeadlyMuffin posted:Yeah, that's my point. They're describing it in a way that will absolutely be inferred to mean it is a gay disease and the fact they did not literally say this means nothing. Pay of their role of messaging, and if their messaging leads to the incredibly obvious result of further stigmatization of queer people then they have absolutely failed in their role.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 22:51
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 11:07 |
|
|
Bar Ran Dun posted:Walenski is very bad at understanding how regular people talk and are incentivized to act and demonstrated that through the phrasing she used yet again. Her incautious phrasing can be misrepresented to cause harm. And that originates from a bubbled life of privilege. No. When she said that the children got the disease from men who have sex with men, that's not incautious phrasing that can be misrepresented, that's a bad sentence when represented by her own words in the form of the sentence she herself said. And you are being very charitable when you say that she said that because she's rich. I think a more reasonable explanation would be that she is trying to prevent people from panicking by emphasizing that the disease primarily effects an othered population. That's also being a little charitable, she might've just said the homophobic thing because she herself is homophobic and believes gay people spread disease to children. Either way, trying to read into Walensky's heart and soul is pointless. She said a bad homophobic thing and should've resigned or been fired.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2022 22:57
|
|