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Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Cup Runneth Over posted:

not to mention that it claims harvesting honey from bees is "violence"

it's kinda hosed up

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lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
did they shoot the bitch down yet?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Cuttlefush posted:

it's kinda hosed up

The cultivation of honey bees is one of the reasons the bee population is dying. We can’t commodify the ones that don’t make honey.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Orange Devil posted:

All bodies need their own spaces but also this is not apartheid somehow.


Melting pot!

lol

It's a spicy thread.

Just pretend onion is spice for this joke gently caress you.

onion powder is a spice


also lol @ at excluding guangxi but keeping qinghai

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Cuttlefush posted:

it's kinda hosed up

beekeepers are extremely respectful to bees and there would be a lot fewer bees than there already are if humans did not keep them

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The cultivation of honey bees is one of the reasons the bee population is dying. We can’t commodify the ones that don’t make honey.

people actually are working on commodifying other sorts of bees
https://masonbeesforsale.com/
https://crownbees.com/mason-bees-for-sale/

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

lollontee posted:

did they shoot the bitch down yet?

she's gonna visit every US ally in the region before finishing her tour in the ocean

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/29/politics/nancy-pelosi-asia-trip-taiwan

quote:

"I would say there's been a full court press from the Chinese embassy to discourage a trip to Taiwan," Washington Democratic Rep. Rick Larsen, the co-chair of Congress' US-China working group, told CNN. "I just don't think it's their business to tell us what we ought to be doing. That was my message back."

Larsen said he met with China's San Francisco Consul General in Seattle on Monday, and he also told Larsen to discourage Pelosi from traveling to Taiwan. The consulate did not respond to requests for comment.

"It's not my job to tell the speaker what the speaker does or doesn't do," said Larsen. "She has far more experience in these things than I do. And so, I will trust her judgment."

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Cup Runneth Over posted:

beekeepers are extremely respectful to bees and there would be a lot fewer bees than there already are if humans did not keep them

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The cultivation of honey bees is one of the reasons the bee population is dying. We can’t commodify the ones that don’t make honey.

fight

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

yea I clicked through the 18min video and I don't think he talks about anything except Xinjiang and Xizang (Tibet). That map doesn't explain inner mongolia, Ningxia or Guangxi except they are autonomous regions. Whitey doesn't know Zhuang or Hui people so whatever.

It also doesn't include Yunnan because while the province isn't autonomous, most of its counties and prefectures are. It's sorta the ethnic minority province because it's so diverse

it's a really badly defended thesis. its almost all pretense and then platitudes and conjecture

Like for example Xinjiang was part of china since the 1750s (before USA existed). When the Qing fell apart it rejoined "Taiwan" and executed its communists. Then "Taiwan" killed the leaders in Xinjiang and then Taiwan lost its civil war to the PRC.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Taiwan is the name of an island, and of a province which includes a few other islands.

The government called The Republic Of China currently controls the Taiwan province as well as some islands in the Fujian province, Making the ROC a 2 province state, but people call the ROC "Taiwan" - both in English and Chinese languages - so I'm going to anachronistically do so as well.

Because you can't blame the commies for the atrocities of Chiang Kai Shek, the dictator in Taiwan from 1949-1975.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

lollontee posted:

did they shoot the bitch down yet?

Tomorrow's the big day iirc.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1553075153940144128

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Why are there Uighurs in China?

Because china needed to genocide the buddhists in what is now northern Xinjiang and the Turkic muslims in what is now southern Xinjiang wanted to help. The turkic muslims became vassals in order to better grow their territory after the genocide, and the Qing government made it illegal for Han or Hui to settle in the Turkic people's lands. China then emigrated a lot of Muslims from China proper to help settle the now ethnically cleansed lands. And then the chinese government made a it a policy not to call the people in Xinjiang foreigners and built a big minaret to commemorate it.

In other words, Urumqi and northern Xinjiang were never Uighur lands, and original mosques built there were built by ethnically "chinese" muslims (Hui). Uighurs were invited there to help solidify the genocide of the buddhists. Uighurs are literally the colonizers. If you ever see articles about a "traditional uighur mosque" being altered or w/e remember this context

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

no one cares dude

In Training
Jun 28, 2008


Go off queen.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Has Nancy been McCain'd yet?

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Antonymous posted:

Why are there Uighurs in China?

Because china needed to genocide the buddhists in what is now northern Xinjiang and the Turkic muslims in what is now southern Xinjiang wanted to help. The turkic muslims became vassals in order to better grow their territory after the genocide, and the Qing government made it illegal for Han or Hui to settle in the Turkic people's lands. China then emigrated a lot of Muslims from China proper to help settle the now ethnically cleansed lands. And then the chinese government made a it a policy not to call the people in Xinjiang foreigners and built a big minaret to commemorate it.

In other words, Urumqi and northern Xinjiang were never Uighur lands, and original mosques built there were built by ethnically "chinese" muslims (Hui). Uighurs were invited there to help solidify the genocide of the buddhists. Uighurs are literally the colonizers. If you ever see articles about a "traditional uighur mosque" being altered or w/e remember this context

syq

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

she's gonna visit every US ally in the region before finishing her tour in the ocean

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/29/politics/nancy-pelosi-asia-trip-taiwan

What a tease.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


While a few people try to give a misportrayal of the historical Qing situation in light of the contemporary situation in Xinjiang with Han migration, and claim that the Qing settlements and state farms were an anti-Uyghur plot to replace them in their land, Professor James A. Millward pointed out that the Qing agricultural colonies in reality had nothing to do with Uyghur and their land, since the Qing banned settlement of Han in the Uyghur Tarim Basin and in fact directed the Han settlers instead to settle in the non-Uyghur Dzungaria and the new city of Urumqi, so that the state farms which were settled with 155,000 Han Chinese from 1760-1830 were all in Dzungaria and Urumqi, where there was only an insignificant number of Uyghurs, instead of the Tarim Basin oases.[102]

Han and Hui merchants were initially only allowed to trade in the Tarim Basin, while Han and Hui settlement in the Tarim Basin was banned, until the Muhammad Yusuf Khoja invasion, in 1830 when the Qing rewarded the merchants for fighting off Khoja by allowing them to settle down.[103] Robert Michell noted that as of 1870, there were many Chinese of all occupations living in Dzungaria and they were well settled in the area, while in Turkestan (Tarim Basin) there were only a few Chinese merchants and soldiers in several garrisons among the Muslim population.[57][58]

A lot of the Han Chinese and Chinese Hui Muslim population who had previously settled northern Xinjiang (Dzungaria) after the Qing genocide of the Dzungars, had died in the Dungan revolt (1862–77). As a result, new Uyghur colonists from Southern Xinjiang (the Tarim Basin) proceeded to settle in the newly empty lands and spread across all of Xinjiang.

After Xinjiang was converted into a province by the Qing, the provincialisation and reconstruction programs initiated by the Qing resulted in the Chinese government helping Uyghurs migrate from southern Xinjiang to other areas of the province, like the area between Qitai and the capital, which was formerly nearly completely inhabited by Han Chinese, and other areas like Urumqi, Tacheng (Tabarghatai), Yili, Jinghe, Kur Kara Usu, Ruoqiang, Lop Nor, and the Tarim River's lower reaches.[153] It was during Qing times that Uyghurs were settled throughout all of Xinjiang, from their original home cities in the western Tarim Basin. The Qing policies after they created Xinjiang by uniting Dzungaria and Altishahr (Tarim Basin) led Uyghurs to believe that the all of Xinjiang province was their homeland, since the annihilation of the Dzungars by the Qing, populating the Ili valley with Uyghurs from the Tarim Basin, creating one political unit with a single name (Xinjiang) out of the previously separate Dzungaria and the Tarim Basin, the war from 1864-1878 which led to the killing of much of the original Han Chinese and Chinese Hui Muslims in Xinjiang, led to areas in Xinjiang which previously had insignificant numbers of Uyghurs, like the southeast, east, and north, to then become settled by Uyghurs who spread through all of Xinjiang from their original home in the southwest area. There was a major and fast growth of the Uyghur population, while the original population of Han Chinese and Hui Muslims from before the war of 155,000 dropped, to the much lower population of 33,114 Tungans (Hui) and 66,000 Han.[154]

A regionalist style nationalism was fostered by the Han Chinese officials who came to rule Xinjiang after its conversion into a province by the Qing, it was from this ideology that the later East Turkestani nationalists appropriated their sense of nationalism centered around Xinjiang as a clearly defined geographic territory.[33]

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

tldr China is right about its own history

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Didn't Biden just have a video call with Xi?

The PRC is gonna come away with the very accurate understanding of a fractured and schizophrenic American political machine.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

In Training posted:

Get offed queen.

Turtle Watch
Jul 30, 2010

by Games Forum
China will grow larger.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
I'm almost there

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

lollontee posted:

did they shoot the bitch down yet?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

lollontee posted:

did they shoot the bitch down yet?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Biden is going into “isolation” during the run up to Pelosi’s Taiwan visit. ok. fine. whatever then

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
American political leadership increasingly erratic, isolated

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
kamala will decide how to shoot back.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/freedomrideblog/status/1553383098431283202?s=21&t=OcaBFy8O9bMMHuCpkLVzXw

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Walking into this thread with a raging boner for the nukes to fly.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

the Soviets shot down a whole passenger liner with a US senator on it and the worst thing that happened was an American propanda coup. in this case more than half the American public is praying for President Xi to take this geriatric dotard off our hands 🙏

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/RetroTechNoir/status/1553488352166481922

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

e-mailing "lose yourself" by eminem to the PLAAF

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
china will decide to punish america in the most effective way, by sending nancy pelosi back

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

china will decide to punish america in the most effective way, by sending nancy pelosi back

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1552734403054411781

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

china will decide to punish america in the most effective way, by sending nancy pelosi back

goddamn

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

I just did an eyeball estimation and my dumb country at the Omicron BA1/2 peak had about 5% of it's population legally in home quarantine with a positive PCR test and I wonder if China even simultaneously locked down 70 million people at any point? I suppose if you have both Beijing and Shanghai popping hot at the same time you're probably getting there, unless they didn't lock down everything?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/bidetmarxman/status/1553472523550855168?s=21&t=lOy34gz2Bxh0gQJtDD1pCQ

posting mainly for the graphic. it’s interesting that even nominally American-aligned India depends more on trade with China than the USA.

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droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
lol Australia's economy is going to get hosed if poo poo gets real.

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