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bias is when you don't declare, unprompted, on a different podcast, 'North Korea isn't perfect' enough times. Even though in that podcast they said 'obviously North Korea is hardly a 'free' country by any western standard' explicitly, the fact that they mentioned the objective historical facts like 'the first Korean election was actually North Korean and South Korea was the military dictatorship for a good bit' and 'the imaginary line North Korea 'crossed' was invented by western generals and no Korean on either side acknowledged it and in fact South Korea had been murdering North Koreans for months before' is doing a bias.
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sexpig by night posted:bias is when you don't declare, unprompted, on a different podcast, 'North Korea isn't perfect' enough times. Sorry I didn't do enough gushing praise, maybe you'd prefer for me to prostrate myself and cry while calling them dear podcasters. Really I enjoyed the episode and feel like I learned from it, and again I said I think it's a useful counterpoint to the traditional narrative, so I don't know why you're so upset that I said they're coming from a clearly biased perspective. It's not something they're trying to hide. As I said, I haven't listened to the whole podcast myself (at least yet), and I'm not an expert on the subject who's going to do a full fact check, but it seems like they're attempting to do serious work. I just think it's worth keeping in mind that there's going to be a bit of a filter here even if they take efforts to be accurate about what they do cover.
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Yes, you're describing the entirety of studying history, it's weird to 'remind us' that the people doing it are indeed humans
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Cool, glad we solved this crisis of someone talking about your favorite podcast in a way that you found objectionable.
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Cool, glad we solved this crisis of someone talking about your favorite podcast in a way that you found objectionable. ok but the problem is! you havent listened to that podcast! instead you listened to another garbage podcast and assumed it was close enough!! ahhh!!
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Cool, glad we solved this crisis of someone talking about your favorite podcast in a way that you found objectionable. Desperately insisting that you’re not mad you got told is a very cool look and we are all glad to hear your unrelated and uninformed opinions on things
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rotinaj posted:Desperately insisting that you’re not mad you got told is a very cool look and we are all glad to hear your unrelated and uninformed opinions on things I don't really think the podcasters themselves talking about their podcast on another podcast one of them used to produce is entirely unrelated, but ymmv. If I "got told" for offering a relatively mild opinion about the hosts (while still kind of recommending the show for offering an atypical perspective if people are interested in the topic), I guess I'll have to find a way to live with that, but I really don't understand what you're so worked up about. 
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oh for christs sake this is just going in circles can we just drop it
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Does anyone have any reccomendations for a podcast about medieval spain? It seems like an interesting period of time but its a bit of a blank spot for me.
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Reconquista?
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twerking on the railroad posted:Reconquista? I’ll check it out, thanks
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twerking on the railroad posted:Reconquista? Seconded - the person seems to be pretty on the level.
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Any decent german history podcasts?
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buglord posted:Any decent german history podcasts? Geschichten aus der Geschichte is very popular, but I don't like their style personally.
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Since it's the recommendation minute, anything on Argentina? A lot of my history podcasts have covered bits and pieces, but I'd like to know the specifics of how everything went sideways.
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I'm listening to Our Fake History and I'm really liking it. I find a lot of history podcasts too dry or overwhelming. Weirdly the only other history podcast I have gotten this obsessed with was fall of civilizations which is quite dry and very thorough to the point of overwhelm. I guess I don't have a lot of history knowledge and a bunch of bronze Age and early iron age history is very new to me. Anyway I'm nearly out of Our Fake History and I'm looking for something fun and conversational but maybe a bit more focused if that makes sense?
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Historical Blindness
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:I'm listening to Our Fake History and I'm really liking it. I find a lot of history podcasts too dry or overwhelming. Weirdly the only other history podcast I have gotten this obsessed with was fall of civilizations which is quite dry and very thorough to the point of overwhelm. I guess I don't have a lot of history knowledge and a bunch of bronze Age and early iron age history is very new to me. Anyway I'm nearly out of Our Fake History and I'm looking for something fun and conversational but maybe a bit more focused if that makes sense? IMO it's the one to beat. If you find something let me know!
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I think what helps offset the Fall of Civilizations being so very dry is that he brings in other people to read letters and poetry, and plays music. If it was just him reading, then it would be a lot more boring, but the varied actors liven it up a little.
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What keeps me on board is when he says "let's go back to the very beginning..." and you're thinking like, aight we taking a trip to the bronze age, but then he starts talking about the Protozoan Era and formation of oceans and poo poo
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VictualSquid posted:Geschichten aus der Geschichte is very popular, but I don't like their style personally. im sorry I should have clarified, english podcasts about german history.
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I couldn't really get into Fall of Civilizations, and personally I like dry. Is there an episode people would recommend as a highlight?CharlestheHammer posted:I got to admit it’s a bold strat to just assume something is biased because it doesn’t tell the narrative you want…while never actually listening to the thing to confirm it one way or another. I've had like 3 or 4 arguments in various threads over the years where I've been the one pushing that a lot of the narrative we have in the US surrounding the Korean War and the Korean division is a load of crap, but at least the way the arguments in that podcast got laid out here have me hum'ing pretty seriously. That podcast shot to the top of my list in any case though, I am curious to hear what they actually have to say.
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Koramei posted:I couldn't really get into Fall of Civilizations, and personally I like dry. Is there an episode people would recommend as a highlight?. My favourite was ep 4 about Greenland Vikings
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I really enjoyed the Fall of Civ episode about Byzantium, and the Aztec one is pretty good too.
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Han China is my personal favorite FoC episode
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I enjoyed the Sumerians and the most recent one!
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I second the Sumerians and Aztec. The Aztec in particular I found to be so sad for some reason that I had to pause for a while and come back to it, and it's rare that a piece of media has that effect on me. I don't think it's dry at all, but maybe I'm used to it.
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because I'm a complete history noob I enjoyed the Bronze Age Collapse episode. Real great intro to both the series and a further exploration of antiquity for me.
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evilpicard posted:Historical Blindness The host has the flattest presentation I've ever heard. Just the most monotonous of monotones. It's almost impressive, really.
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I really enjoyed the Vijanagara episode of Fall of Civilizations because it was about something I knew very little about, and the end was pretty dramatic — going from a huge, thriving center of commerce to total collapse in less than a generation. Its capital now being a completely abandoned ruin now, there's something romantic about that. Plus it's so recent compared to most of the other ones. Besides, probably because it's so recent, the different rulers come out as having different personalities and styles. With something like Assyria it's hard to imagine the rulers as anything but cold stone reliefs just going from one poorly recorded campaign to the next. Grevling fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Aug 8, 2022 |
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Conflicted might be worth a look, the Kill Yamamoto two-parter is great and I'm really enjoying the current series on the partition of India.
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kiminewt posted:I'm on episode 6 of the first (Iraq) season. The jovial tone is enough to make me listen with a grain of salt anyway. I definitely wouldn’t call the tone “jovial”. Just listened to the episode on the US marines and officers massacring fleeing refugees and assassinating thousands of political prisoners, photographed for posterity that would compare the images to that of the Nazi holocaust. It was pretty somber. The western media narrative was that the KPA did the massacring until it was finally declassified in the late 90s that it was explicitly Americans who did it in a coordinated extermination.
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Patrick Wyman got a gig as a talking head on the new History Channel miniseries about the Colosseum.
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Danger posted:I definitely wouldn’t call the tone “jovial”. Just listened to the episode on the US marines and officers massacring fleeing refugees and assassinating thousands of political prisoners, photographed for posterity that would compare the images to that of the Nazi holocaust. It was pretty somber. The western media narrative was that the KPA did the massacring until it was finally declassified in the late 90s that it was explicitly Americans who did it in a coordinated extermination. Jovial was definitely the wrong word, but it does have a joking/less serious tone at times which helps me accept that they're not trying to be The Objective History. I finished the Iraq season and started the Korean one. Oddly little mention of the USSR but I assume that starts in later episodes.
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I really liked the Russian history podcast, but he hasn't posted a new episode in over a year. Not sure if it was recent Russian history causing him to stop...
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What's the deal with Blowback season 3? Are the main episodes ever going to be free like previous seasons or not?
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I bought the third season. They don't mention anything about it, so possibly not? Currently three-quarters into the third episode. I don't want to revive the previous decision but if there's any moment where the podcast feels like "AMERICA BAD, EVERYONE ELSE GOOD" it's this one.
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treat posted:What's the deal with Blowback season 3? Are the main episodes ever going to be free like previous seasons or not? I only recently listened to S3E1 and my impression was that episode 1 was free, everything else you’d have to pay for (unlike previous seasons where you’d get everything free eventually).
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treat posted:What's the deal with Blowback season 3? Are the main episodes ever going to be free like previous seasons or not? https://twitter.com/blowbackpod/status/1554853750086549504?s=20&t=q_YnccQk1Cg_4p-Ix8CvPw Looks like it comes out eventually
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 New podcast alert The Rest Is History just dropped a promotional episode for Empire, which is a podcast about the British East India Company plundering the Indian subcontinent (supposedly it will be a podcast about other empires as well but there are exactly two episodes out so far). I don't know much about the subject matter so I can't unequivocally say THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED but it's a pretty good podcast so far. Good production, engaging storytelling, and it seems like they have a plan to get through the story in a fairly timely manner. It seems like a good addition to my rotation and the first two episodes flew right by.
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