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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020


dude I live in a tiny town surrounded by trees and rivers, I'm a mechanic by trade, my hobbies are hiking, shooting, gardening, cooking and fixing stuff

unless we all live to be 103 I don't think my odds of survival are going to be much higher than the gooniest of computer touchers. luck alone will determine who lives and who dies and how painfully, like it does now

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coke
Jul 12, 2009
we are saved!

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/scorching-temperatures-causing-ntx-homeowners-to-consider-fake-grass/3035546/

quote:

People are spending a lot of money on water bills, fertilizer, and sprinkler systems just to keep their lawns alive, all while their family budgets battle inflation and rising utility costs.

But some are giving up on that grassy dream and switching to a no-fuss alternative: Fake grass.

quote:

Karina Leon of Dallas and her family told NBC 5 they had to make the switch.

"Our grass is just not making it through the summers as much as we want to water it and take care of it,” she said. “I feel like this is the way to go. I mean, aesthetically, it looks beautiful. And it's functional.

quote:

Chapman walked us through the key facts about artificial turf that many people ask them about :

Synthetic grass is completely drainable just like regular grass, so your pets can use the bathroom like normal. Clean up is encouraged to keep the grass in good condition.
It's not like the turf you'd see at a sports stadium, which uses rubber fill. Most home-based artificial grass uses a sand fill, which helps it to look realistic and keep it cooler to the touch.
Overall, it can last for decades with proper care.

turns out, it's actually greener! (heh got'em)

quote:

"The cost of going in and installing an irrigation system, then sod, then the water bill to get the sod to take, then the water bill to maintain, and your maintenance on top of it,” Chapman added. “Outside of just the general maintenance, you're not dealing with having to fertilizer and the bad toxins that you could be putting in around your kids [with real grass].

quote:

There's no habitat for pollinators. However, that can be offset with a surrounding garden.

Consumers also need to watch out for low quality fake grass, which has toxins that can be released as it degrades over time. If it's done right and laid down by a reputable company, it should be non-toxic.

cheaper, less toxic if done right and great with pollinators if you also plant flowers in the surroundings, what's not to like??



lol guess this is the MSM take on fake grass :rip:

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
lake mead has started increasing

game over nerds

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Lake :mediocre:

Lordshmee
Nov 23, 2007

I hate you, Milkman Dan

Raine posted:

1) dick
2) dick
3) dick
4) dick



sorry, it’s Dick.

Alamani57
Dec 15, 2010

The Voice of Labor posted:

dude I live in a tiny town surrounded by trees and rivers, I'm a mechanic by trade, my hobbies are hiking, shooting, gardening, cooking and fixing stuff

wow you're going to be such a prize for the regional warlord who comes to power after 'the event'

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

kater posted:

creative writing prompt: things are going to be ok

The Voice of Labor posted:

dude I live in a tiny town surrounded by trees and rivers, I'm a mechanic by trade, my hobbies are hiking, shooting, gardening, cooking and fixing stuff

unless we all live to be 103 I don't think my odds of survival are going to be much higher than the gooniest of computer touchers. luck alone will determine who lives and who dies and how painfully, like it does now

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
i'm putting my odds on this goon, unless Cabbages and Kings wants to become the community building katana-wielding feudal lord from World Made by Hand

Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009


personally I'm definitely signing on with the guy who keeps talking about giving us all guns and weed with a mountaintop fortress

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires
As a feral child with a sharp boomerang and a big glove I feel my chances of survival are pretty good

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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I literally transitioned to one-person-one-pack, zero-income and went nomad through the Trump years. I learned dumpster diving, diesel jugging, using bumfeeds, hitchhiking, gathering firewood, tending fire, cooking outdoors, gardening, foraging and black bloc basics.

It didn't leave me feeling confident about my future; I feel like I just made those transitions before others are forced to.

Now I'm sheltering with friends and doing kitchen work with an elastomeric :/

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


what is diesel juggling

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Alamani57 posted:

wow you're going to be such a prize for the regional warlord who comes to power after 'the event'


Hubbert posted:

i'm putting my odds on this goon, unless Cabbages and Kings wants to become the community building katana-wielding feudal lord from World Made by Hand

I think if I could get another 2 dozen or so goons to follow me and give me all their money so I can buy myself a nice house and some land for them to be my serfs on, maybe I could be that warlord

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Despite that the NYC metro area has gone tropical in summer and question mark in winter it still feels very much the best place to be in the US. Everything west of the, uh, midwest is in 22 year long megadrought with several dozen thousand-year fires per annum, the midwest is either perpetually flooded or above 105F for ? reasons, or windy!!!, and the southeast is a swamp rear end hell with worse politics than weather

escaping to latam is suicide, escaping to caribbean ditto, europe weather is much worse. I can't learn Icelandic or Danish cause wtf? Maybe try Nova Scotia in 4 years probably

Danish is just about the easiest language for an English speaker to learn, RIP

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
latifundia goon project

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Irony.or.Death posted:

personally I'm definitely signing on with the guy who keeps talking about giving us all guns and weed with a mountaintop fortress

Who is this prophet you speak of?

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

lake mead has started increasing

game over nerds

maybe your wife would like more 3 inches but nobody else will notice

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

Mayor Dave posted:

Danish is just about the easiest language for an English speaker to learn, RIP

I think you're thinking of Dutch. But they'll be underwater .

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Perry Mason Jar posted:

Despite that the NYC metro area has gone tropical in summer and question mark in winter it still feels very much the best place to be in the US. Everything west of the, uh, midwest is in 22 year long megadrought with several dozen thousand-year fires per annum, the midwest is either perpetually flooded or above 105F for ? reasons, or windy!!!, and the southeast is a swamp rear end hell with worse politics than weather

escaping to latam is suicide, escaping to caribbean ditto, europe weather is much worse. I can't learn Icelandic or Danish cause wtf? Maybe try Nova Scotia in 4 years probably

yeah so far ny regions biggest problems are coastal flooding like in sandy, future sea level rise, etc and flash flooding/tornados from more powerful T storms.
way better than temps above 110 and epic wildfires. just dont live near water or in a basement. i guess thats hard but i mean if you have a choice.
probably just jinxed it tho and the hypercane will form in the swirling winds of the meadowlands

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

BraveUlysses posted:

maybe your wife would like more 3 inches but nobody else will notice

Your sister said i was the biggest she’s had

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 20 hours!

Mayor Dave posted:

Danish is just about the easiest language for an English speaker to learn, RIP

it’s going to be cold in Denmark

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

half earth socialism is a neat little game free on steam. it’s utopian but still realistically challenging.

i enjoy how the modeling is both straightforward but not entirely upfront. like on turn 1 you can declare you’re switching to a grid mix that is 65% hydro then get owned as hydro resource availability declines

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6fs2JJjp6g

Looks like the volcanic system in Iceland that erupted last year is set to go again. If it's like the eruption last year it won't be too explosive, so it won't put much into the upper atmosphere, but it will be cool 😎

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Mayor Dave posted:

seriously, one of the big drivers of our current inflation that no one's talking about is how hosed up supply chains are atm, and they're not going to get any better

they could get better

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

thank god I live in nz, I'm just gonna ride that one out

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




in this hell timeline theres no way the cleansing fire comes for us, some regional conflict will cause a few dozen nukings and every one will get together globally at the un to say it was terrible and that i still need to go to work forever

Tony Tone
Jun 14, 2020

by vyelkin
Our Final Warning is the first book I've read in approx. 9 years (yes im dumb gently caress off) and it really owned to destroy even more shreds of hope I didnt even know I still had.

One of the first regions to be hit the hardest will be the Middle East. We're going to be hit with like 20 nations/Most of Africa/bits South Asia worth of climate refugees all clamoring to enter the Promised Land, perched in just the right spot geographically on top of being equipped with one of the most advanced water filtration/recycling systems in the world. 19 year old conscripts with Tavors are going to be mowing down starving families piling on top of our massive walls like some hosed up scene from World War Z. Lmao!

Of course eventually we too shall fall, ripped apart to pieces from within and outside. But you bet your rear end Im gonna post all about it right here in this thread.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Our 2 options are we all die, or we all die really quickly.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

im gonna eat ben & jerries in my bunker

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
I don't think people around me in real life realise how quickly I am to abandon all sense of morality in order just to survive another day in the hellscape that's to come.

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

CODChimera posted:

im gonna eat ben & jerries in my bunker

after Ben disappeared last week, the Jerries have been getting nervous

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
What's the deal with nuclear winter? I was under the impression that it was fairly well debunked. Have they done new science or is that guy just repeating the study put forward by Sagan in the 70s (maybe 80s). Which I think might have actually been deliberately falsified to scare generals and politicians out of using nukes.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

I believe the predictions nowadays focus on a limited nuclear war. which is to say low yield nukes will be used to clear unfashionable sections of big cities and the areas surrounding billionaire bunkers and ski resorts.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Funky See Funky Do posted:

What's the deal with nuclear winter? I was under the impression that it was fairly well debunked. Have they done new science or is that guy just repeating the study put forward by Sagan in the 70s (maybe 80s). Which I think might have actually been deliberately falsified to scare generals and politicians out of using nukes.

there was murmuring that it was all bullshit because nobody did any studies on it after 1990 until fairly recently but scientists started doing updated estimates with more recent models in the past decade and all of them still suggest global cooling and famine conditions would result from even relatively limited nuclear exchanges (the modern studies are focused on the scale of india and pakistan going at it for the obvious reasons)

e: its possible all the models are wrong but its only been 'fairly well debunked' in that some dudes who want to start ww3 over ukraine have said 'nuclear winter is fairly well debunked' in op-ed pages

atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 07:24 on Aug 2, 2022

Kicked Throat
Apr 12, 2005

Confusedslight posted:

I don't think people around me in real life realise how quickly I am to abandon all sense of morality in order just to survive another day in the hellscape that's to come.

way ahead of you. i already live in a hellscape where my morality was abandoned in order just to survive.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I want a nuclear summer. *screams through chainlink fence*

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
i like being alive, personally

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

kater posted:

creative writing prompt: things are going to be ok

Things are going to be ok, the TV said while the oceans died
Things are going to be ok, the youube shouted while the crops failed
Things are going to be ok, the radio screamed as the missiles flew

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Kicked Throat posted:

way ahead of you. i already live in a hellscape where my morality was abandoned in order just to survive.

weird me too

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Climate change: More studies needed on possibility of human extinction

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62378157

quote:

Catastrophic climate change outcomes, including human extinction, are not being taken seriously enough by scientists, a new study says.

The authors say that the consequences of more extreme warming - still on the cards if no action is taken - are "dangerously underexplored".

They argue that the world needs to start preparing for the possibility of what they term the :siren: "climate endgame". :siren:

They want UN scientists to investigate the risk of catastrophic change.

According to this new analysis, the closest attempts to directly understand or address how climate change could lead to global catastrophe have come from popular science books such as The Uninhabitable Earth and not from mainstream science research.

In recent years climate scientists have more often studied the impacts of warming of around 1.5C or 2C above the temperatures seen in 1850, before the onset of global industrialisation.

These studies show that keeping temperatures close to these levels this century will place heavy burdens on global economies, but they do not envisage the end of humanity.

Researchers have focussed on these lower temperature scenarios for good reasons.

The Paris climate agreement saw almost every nation on Earth sign up to a deal that aims to keep the rise in global temperatures "well below" 2C this century, and make efforts to keep it under 1.5C.

So it's natural that governments would want their scientists to show exactly what this type of change would mean.

But this new paper says that not enough attention has been given to more extreme outcomes of climate change.

"I think it's sane risk management to think about the plausible worst-case scenarios and we do it when it comes to every other situation, we should definitely do when it comes to the fate of the planet and species," said lead author Dr Luke Kemp from the University of Cambridge.

The researchers found that estimates of the impacts of a temperature rise of 3C are under-represented compared to their likelihood.

Using climate models, the report shows that in this type of scenario, by 2070 around 2 billion people living in some of the most politically fragile areas of the world would be enduring annual average temperatures of 29C.

"Average annual temperatures of 29C currently affect around 30 million people in the Sahara and Gulf Coast," said co-author Chi Xu of Nanjing University.

"By 2070, these temperatures and the social and political consequences will directly affect two nuclear powers, and seven maximum containment laboratories housing the most dangerous pathogens. There is serious potential for disastrous knock-on effects," he said. :supaburn:

The report says that it is not just high temperatures that are the problem, it's the compound and knock-on effects such as food or financial crises, conflicts or disease outbreaks that have the potential for disaster.

There should also be more focus on identifying potential tipping points, where increasing warmth triggers another natural event that drives temperatures up even more - such as methane emissions from melting permafrost or forests that start emitting carbon rather than soaking it up.

To properly assess all these risks, the authors are calling on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to carry out a special report on catastrophic climate change.

The researchers said that seriously studying the consequences of worst-case scenarios was vital, even though it might scare people.

They said that carrying out this research would allow scientists to consider emergency options such as climate engineering which might involve pumping coolants into the atmosphere. Researchers would be able to carry out a risk analysis for these drastic interventions compared to the worst effects of climate change. Focussing on the worst-case scenarios could also help inform the public - and might actually make the outcomes less likely.

"Understanding these plausible but grim scenarios is something that could galvanise both political and civil opinion," said Dr Kemp.

"We saw this when it came to the identification of the idea of a nuclear winter that helped compel a lot of the public efforts as well as the disarmament movement throughout the 1970s and '80s."

"And I hope if we can find similar concrete and clear mechanisms when it comes to thinking about climate change, that it also has a similar effect."

The plea for serious study of more extreme scenarios will chime with many younger climate activists, who say they are often not addressed for fear of frightening people into inaction.

"It is vital that we have research into all areas of climate change, including the scary reality of catastrophic events," said Laura Young, a 25-year-old climate activist. "This is because without the full truth, and all of the potential impacts, we won't make the informed choices we need, and we won't be driving climate action with enough pressure.

"For years climate change has been hidden, misinformed, and avoided and this has to stop now. Especially for the younger generations who are going to be left to deal with the consequences of years of pushing the Earth to its limits."

The study has been published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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