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KennyMan666
May 27, 2010

The Saga

Noneyoudaughter

Edit: Oh god what a terrible snipe, uuh lemme find something topic-appropriate to put here I didn't already get from the thread

Let's go with this nerd, don't think it was posted before.

https://twitter.com/VeltielG/status/1553674312162361346

KennyMan666 has a new favorite as of 11:58 on Aug 2, 2022

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Alien Arcana
Feb 14, 2012

You're related to soup, Admiral.

Platystemon posted:

We need a better play on “Allison” than reversing the order of the letters.

Nonedaughter?

EDIT Curses!

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



KennyMan666 posted:

Let's go with this nerd, don't think it was posted before.

https://twitter.com/VeltielG/status/1553674312162361346

Lol at this response

https://twitter.com/percyperplexed/status/1554326316190560256?t=zUtKWLafqGahybW1eC22XA&s=19

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

Not fetishizing cartoon children is woke now? I'll add it to the checklist I guess.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Like this except "woke"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-q35k0qQc8

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Strange voices are saying (What did they say?)
Things I can't understand
It's too close for comfort, this heat has got right out of hand

It's a woke (woke), woke summer
(Leaving me) Leaving me here on my own
It's a woke (It's a woke), woke summer
Now you're gone

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Skwirl posted:

I think it's like when some people (not everyone, or even most, it's a small sample) who are obsessed with true-crime stuff claim it's because it helps women protect themselves. When the reality is if you get murdered it's almost certainly a romantic partner, family member or acquaintance. And the transphobes obsess over a trans woman just using that as an excuse to go into a women's restroom and rape someone when the reality is, if you get raped it's almost certainly a romantic partner, family member or acquaintance.

The difference is in the first case the target of the ire is serial killers, so who gives a gently caress. In the second it's teenagers that get harassed, assaulted, murdered and are already 4 times likelier to commit suicide. No one would care too much if someone committed a Jack Ruby on the next Ted Bundy, but someone deciding that their barista Jack suddenly wanting to be called Vivian is a physical danger to other women can and has had very tragic results.
Shouldn't it be straightforward enough to look at the statistics to see the breakdown of sexual assaults that were reported from women's restrooms? I would think that would settle the issue. The % of rapes that took place in a women's public restroom, then among those the % of rapes committed by a trans person in that situation. Because if it's such a big problem TERFS claim than I figure statistics would bear it out.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Panfilo posted:

Shouldn't it be straightforward enough to look at the statistics to see the breakdown of sexual assaults that were reported from women's restrooms? I would think that would settle the issue. The % of rapes that took place in a women's public restroom, then among those the % of rapes committed by a trans person in that situation. Because if it's such a big problem TERFS claim than I figure statistics would bear it out.

Tons of sexual assaults go unreported is a widely known fact, so it’s an unreliable statistic. Not that I think there’s some unreported epidemic of trans women raping cis women in bathrooms (speaking as a trans woman who has been confronted in bathrooms when I was just trying to take a piss), it’s just a sad part of how the police treat victims of sexual assault.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Panfilo posted:

Shouldn't it be straightforward enough to look at the statistics
It would be if that's what they actually cared about and not just a thing they say.

womb with a view
Sep 8, 2007

I always wondered about the internal logic behind thinking that a sign is the only thing stopping a would-be sex offender. You know, they would normally just go right on in, but it says "women only" so I guess they can't.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Tiggum posted:

It would be if that's what they actually cared about and not just a thing they say.

Hell, if you show them the numbers, they’ll probably believe their wrong lovely thing harder.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

womb with a view posted:

I always wondered about the internal logic behind thinking that a sign is the only thing stopping a would-be sex offender. You know, they would normally just go right on in, but it says "women only" so I guess they can't.

There was a claim somewhere in the UK about a place that switched from gendered to non gender restrooms and that after this change the number of sexual assaults in the bathroom went way up. They see it as a crime of opportunity. I guess TERFs are assuming people would immediately intervene had it been more obvious that a person was entering the bathroom/changing room for nefarious purposes.


Arivia posted:

Tons of sexual assaults go unreported is a widely known fact, so it’s an unreliable statistic. Not that I think there’s some unreported epidemic of trans women raping cis women in bathrooms (speaking as a trans woman who has been confronted in bathrooms when I was just trying to take a piss), it’s just a sad part of how the police treat victims of sexual assault.

Oh I'm well aware, though even with that fact I figure people are more or less likely to report a sexual assault based on circumstances. With all the bathroom hysteria going on you'd think they'd report that in a hot minute if it was such a big problem.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Panfilo posted:

Shouldn't it be straightforward enough to look at the statistics to see the breakdown of sexual assaults that were reported from women's restrooms? I would think that would settle the issue. The % of rapes that took place in a women's public restroom, then among those the % of rapes committed by a trans person in that situation. Because if it's such a big problem TERFS claim than I figure statistics would bear it out.

One case would be enough for them.

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...
So turns out the guy running the twitter account highlighting "crazy something awful stories" actively tried to make it a worse place for over a decade. Kinda weird to be so lovely on here and now try to get internet notoriety from the forums.

https://twitter.com/SA__moment/status/1554437627612483584?t=thc4hgvmKIv8Hymt7kAvQg&s=19

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

womb with a view posted:

I always wondered about the internal logic behind thinking that a sign is the only thing stopping a would-be sex offender. You know, they would normally just go right on in, but it says "women only" so I guess they can't.

as per 99% of TERF hot takes, the bathroom thing also completely avoids the question of what bathroom a FtM trans man should use.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

It's not about the killing animals part.

The tradition is about self-sacrifice and giving up the "good, expensive" food like farmed meat for cheaper alternatives... which fish used to be a few hundred years ago. Beef was "the good stuff" while fish was just medieval poor people food.
tbh my feelings on this probably mostly come less from the religious basis and more from having known multiple vegetarians who eat fish

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

IronicDongz posted:

tbh my feelings on this probably mostly come less from the religious basis and more from having known multiple vegetarians who eat fish

Should just call themselves pescatarian. Stealing vegetarian valor, smh

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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AceClown posted:

as per 99% of TERF hot takes, the bathroom thing also completely avoids the question of what bathroom a FtM trans man should use.

Considering that trans men calling themselves men is "erasing womanhood" the logical conclusion would be to force them into the ladies room.

But, actually, their answer to what bathroom to use in either case is "detransition and become someone who fits my notions of gender" because they don't want to find a way to coexist with trans people. They want for them not to exist.

burexas.irom
Oct 29, 2007

I disapprove of what you say, and I will defend your death because you have no right to say it!

ghosthorse posted:

So turns out the guy running the twitter account highlighting "crazy something awful stories" actively tried to make it a worse place for over a decade. Kinda weird to be so lovely on here and now try to get internet notoriety from the forums.

https://twitter.com/SA__moment/status/1554437627612483584?t=thc4hgvmKIv8Hymt7kAvQg&s=19

Huh, I was following this guy on YT (not knowing who he was, but I don't keep up with forum stars) and thought he was doing a good job as a forums historian, what with SAclopedia being the unpenetrable pile of shitposts.

Watching a guy that was this big a piece of poo poo for so long turn it around actually makes me hopeful, so I guess probably i'm the idiot on social media.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

https://twitter.com/DevanThayerLund/status/1553890410904178688

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Platystemon posted:

We need a better play on “Allison” than reversing the order of the letters.

Noneisn'tdaughter.

E: bugger

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...

burexas.irom posted:

Huh, I was following this guy on YT (not knowing who he was, but I don't keep up with forum stars) and thought he was doing a good job as a forums historian, what with SAclopedia being the unpenetrable pile of shitposts.

Watching a guy that was this big a piece of poo poo for so long turn it around actually makes me hopeful, so I guess probably i'm the idiot on social media.

I don't know who he is/was but I thought releasing a video saying "I was a huge problem and actively made the forum bad" at the same time as trying to be some kind of forums history person is pretty dumb.

Trying to drive people off a site by being a huge rear end to them doesn't seem conducive to that site generating more fun content in the future. Maybe he wasn't that bad if I don't recognize the username but it still seems weird.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

ghosthorse posted:

I don't know who he is/was but I thought releasing a video saying "I was a huge problem and actively made the forum bad" at the same time as trying to be some kind of forums history person is pretty dumb.

Trying to drive people off a site by being a huge rear end to them doesn't seem conducive to that site generating more fun content in the future. Maybe he wasn't that bad if I don't recognize the username but it still seems weird.

Guy Mann, Sleeveless, ...Of Science, couple others. He was a real rear end. Still, if the video is even half true it's a sad story, probably not that uncommon, and I hope he's telling the truth that he's working to turn things around.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Apparently this particular con is one of those extreme fringe things that normal people in the anime industry and fandom don't want to associate themselves with under any circumstances explicitly because it has a long history of being bound up in gross and criminal sex poo poo.

To the point where the guest of honour for the whole convention was legendary anime convention sex creep and blacklisted voice actor (on account of being a legally proven sex creep) Vig Mignogna. And their B-Tier celebrity guests were a bunch of right wing YouTubers and the lawyer Vic hired to help him try to beat the rap only to wind up losing every single case for him and cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages... you know, for being a sex creep.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea AM is 100% the pedo con, it's not being all 'hur hur them japanese animes is all for pedos' it's just pointing out that that con is famously shady and trashy and pretty much a hub for the dregs of the industry to flock to when it's not being raided for literal child porn.

Not everyone who goes to it is a pedo, but they are going to the pedo con so woopsie looks like a bad association!

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/OscarPiastri/status/1554527452231262210

It's not even as if Alpine is a bad F1 team; he's just throwing away a six-figure job for shits and giggles.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

womb with a view posted:

I always wondered about the internal logic behind thinking that a sign is the only thing stopping a would-be sex offender. You know, they would normally just go right on in, but it says "women only" so I guess they can't.
I'm going to make millions with my new "No Raping" signs!

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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Knormal posted:

I'm going to make millions with my new "No Raping" signs!

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1405874241514442754

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


TinTower posted:

https://twitter.com/OscarPiastri/status/1554527452231262210

It's not even as if Alpine is a bad F1 team; he's just throwing away a six-figure job for shits and giggles.

As has been pointed out on Twiter, he almost certainly has already got another offer in his hip pocket. Having somebody try to force your hand by announcing your acceptance before you've signed the papers would be irritating.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

As has been pointed out on Twiter, he almost certainly has already got another offer in his hip pocket. Having somebody try to force your hand by announcing your acceptance before you've signed the papers would be irritating.

To be honest, I would've taken the Alpine offer even if McLaren were offering a bit more, just to get miles away from the whole Alex Palou/Chip Ganassi drama that's happening at the same time.

I imagine by the time the teams unpack everything in Belgium everyone in the world will have been promised that second McLaren seat.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Arivia posted:

Tons of sexual assaults go unreported is a widely known fact, so it’s an unreliable statistic. Not that I think there’s some unreported epidemic of trans women raping cis women in bathrooms (speaking as a trans woman who has been confronted in bathrooms when I was just trying to take a piss), it’s just a sad part of how the police treat victims of sexual assault.

Sure, but the documented incidents of cis men presenting as cis men sexually assaulting women in bathrooms is a nail in the coffin of the idea that bathrooms are safe as long as trans people aren’t using them.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
As if there was a loving forcefield stopping male-presenting people from assaulting anyone. Ugh.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

HopperUK posted:

As if there was a loving forcefield stopping male-presenting people from assaulting anyone. Ugh.

Right? There documentably isn’t. Assaulters just going to assault, signs (or laws) aren’t magic.

What is documented is that bathroom gender presentation policing leads to tons of assaults and harassment against both trans and cis people.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

AlbieQuirky posted:

Right? There documentably isn’t. Assaulters just going to assault, signs (or laws) aren’t magic.

What is documented is that bathroom gender presentation policing leads to tons of assaults and harassment against both trans and cis people.

one could be forgiven for thinking that was the point

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

hawowanlawow posted:

one could be forgiven for thinking that was the point

yes! the cruelty is always the point, to quote Adam Serwer.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

As someone already pointed out in the replies, this mush-mouthed creep wouldn't be talking so tough if the person he was harassing was anything other than a small woman.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Bathroom terfs also completely ignore that cis women can and do secually assault other women (especially with that one terf being a known lesbian rapist). The only "safe" bathroom is the one in your own home if you take their nonsense to its logical conclusion, and even then someone could just break in.

Flint_Paper
Jun 7, 2004

This isn't cool at all Looshkin! These are dark forces you're titting about with!

Schubalts posted:

Bathroom terfs also completely ignore that cis women can and do secually assault other women (especially with that one terf being a known lesbian rapist). The only "safe" bathroom is the one in your own home if you take their nonsense to its logical conclusion, and even then someone could just break in.

If the bathroom in my home is so safe, how come it's mixed-sex? Check MATE, atheists.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Beyond this guy being a creep, people do this all the time at sporting events. I just went to a Mariners game and the only reason was because my cousin bought tickets because they were playing the Rangers and he's a huge Rangers fan. He came all decked out in Rangers gear.

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Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Skwirl posted:

Beyond this guy being a creep, people do this all the time at sporting events. I just went to a Mariners game and the only reason was because my cousin bought tickets because they were playing the Rangers and he's a huge Rangers fan. He came all decked out in Rangers gear.

Two swords, an animal companion, and a favored enemy?

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