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Did Bankston actually mention the leaked phone on a KN episode because I feel like I remember something like that?
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TheMightyBoops posted:Did Bankston actually mention the leaked phone on a KN episode because I feel like I remember something like that? I find that hard to believe, it's the sort of thing you absolutely want to completely surprise your target with.
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TheMightyBoops posted:Did Bankston actually mention the leaked phone on a KN episode because I feel like I remember something like that? No, they only got it 12 days ago and I don't think he's been on in the interim
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BigglesSWE posted:I find that hard to believe, it's the sort of thing you absolutely want to completely surprise your target with. I’m surprised he went on at all TBH.
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Aug 3, 2022 18:43
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So we’re back in under 50 min?
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TheMightyBoops posted:I’m surprised he went on at all TBH. One of the hosts of Knowledge Fight was a consultant for the plantiffs lawyers for Alex Jones' second deposition They used the show as a resource for the case.
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teen witch posted:So we’re back in under 50 min? i think she said 30?
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If it was under gag I don't think he would even admit to it existing.
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1554864860579696647?s=20&t=bpsbK3brjqB5i1aU23ZHWA Yeah, this never happens in a trial, it's honestly a complete disaster.
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goatface posted:If it was under gag I don't think he would even admit to it existing. Yeah. It must just sound like something that was said to me.
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Aug 3, 2022 18:46
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People will write dissertations about this case. Probably not just law ones.
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Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence?
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Aug 3, 2022 18:47
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I picked a fine morning to get stuck in meetings and have to skip out on this train wreck, I'll tell ya what.  Can someone summarize the phone/iCloud storage thing for me? I've been rummaging through the past posts but I'm not 100% sure what happened.
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goatface posted:People will write dissertations about this case. Probably not just law ones. Are you loving kidding? I'm in the market for the new back tattoo.
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sweet geek swag posted:Yeah, this never happens in a trial, it's honestly a complete disaster. it never happens at a trial because a majority of lawyers are at least basically competent, if nothing else the fact that his legal team couldn't even clear that bar is.......... wow
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Aug 3, 2022 18:48
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? it rules
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? Matt said something about him pointing out to them "hey you just sent us this, is this protected?" and they somehow DID NOT CONFIRM THAT IMMEDIATELY.
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i'm going to have to watch that cell phone reveal at least ten more times. each time focusing on a different person's reaction.
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KitConstantine posted:
Quoting for the new page and for added context: https://twitter.com/obarcala/status/1554883076039315457?t=rVHsvHkj4GTveO3jpaIxjg&s=19
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BigglesSWE posted:Matt said something about him pointing out to them "hey you just sent us this, is this protected?" and they somehow DID NOT CONFIRM THAT IMMEDIATELY. They had 10 days to claim it was privileged or a mistake, etc. Today is day 12.
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BigglesSWE posted:Matt said something about him pointing out to them "hey you just sent us this, is this protected?" and they somehow DID NOT CONFIRM THAT IMMEDIATELY. They didn't confirm it at all. They basically let the clock run out on when they could confirm it, so they casually sent critical information that sinks their case without any sort of response.
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Aug 3, 2022 18:49
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I've said it before: There's no  big enough.
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funeral home DJ posted:I picked a fine morning to get stuck in meetings and have to skip out on this train wreck, I'll tell ya what. Basically Jones lawyers had all his texts and emails for 3 years, didn't claim any of it as privileged information, so the plaintiffs lawyers got all of it and showed how hard Jones has been lying.
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funeral home DJ posted:I picked a fine morning to get stuck in meetings and have to skip out on this train wreck, I'll tell ya what. "someone" from Jones' team sent an entire backup of Jones' personal phone, which contained apparently medical records and sealed depositions, to the plantiff's team. plantiff's team asked the defense if it was priviledged and got no response, so apparently it became fair game after 10 days
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? Its submittable as because it was meant to be there to begin with. At the start of every case you have the 'discovery' phase where you can request anything that is usable by the upcoming trial. They requested the money figures on how much of the food buckets Jones was selling, and got none or little. Now they got more info on it, so can add it to the record. (See My Cousin Vinny)
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? IANAL (so I don't know why I'm answering) but the plaintiff lawyer mentioned (paraphrase) "... and when I told your attorney that I received this, he did NOTHING to assert it as privileged information nor protect it in any way..." So, it seems like because it wasn't obtained improperly or illegally, and when given the explicit opportunity to "hit the undo button holy poo poo throw that out", Jones' lawyer did, in fact, not hit it, it becomes as admissible as anything else?
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KitConstantine posted:Quoting for the new page and for added context: 
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? Jones' lawyers submitted the phone to the plaintiff's attorneys. It sounds like they were only required to submit certain messages relevant to the case but instead sent an entire digital image of Jones' phone with emails and text messages dating back 2 years. That's bad enough, but Jones' lawyers COULD have asked for a lot of those messages (especially the ones between Jones/his lawyers) to be considered privileged, but there's a window where they have to submit that sort of request (apparently 10-12 days) and they...just didn't. So now everything on that phone belongs to the plaintiff's lawyers and they can probably do whatever the gently caress they want with it. Give it to the DOJ, the lawyer team in CT going after Jones, the Pope, publish it all online?
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“Oh poo poo we mixed up the names on incriminating.zip and unincriminating.zip.”
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What astonishes me is that all this has come out during the damages phase of an already settled default judgement. This means that none of these histrionics were necessary in arguing against the damage amount, but resulted in this incredible self sabotage. It would be more understandable if they were actually arguing the real case in the first place, but that part is already over.
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spinst posted:"someone" from Jones' team sent an entire backup of Jones' personal phone, which contained apparently medical records and sealed depositions, to the plantiff's team. plantiff's team asked the defense if it was priviledged and got no response, so apparently it became fair game after 10 days It also apparently included chains of emails from further back that were still being quoted in the email chain. Its a gold mine.
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Frank Frank posted:Jones' lawyers submitted the phone to the plaintiff's attorneys. It sounds like they were only required to submit certain messages relevant to the case but instead sent an entire digital image of Jones' phone with emails and text messages dating back 2 years. That's bad enough, but Jones' lawyers COULD have asked for a lot of those messages (especially the ones between Jones/his lawyers) to be considered privileged, but there's a window where they have to submit that sort of request (apparently 10-12 days) and they...just didn't. So now everything on that phone belongs to the plaintiff's lawyers and they can probably do whatever the gently caress they want with it. Give it to the DOJ, the lawyer team in CT going after Jones, the Pope, publish it all online? PLEASE OH GOD PLEASE ALEXJONESMYCRIMES.zip 
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a mysterious cloak posted:Basically Jones lawyers had all his texts and emails for 3 years, didn't claim any of it as privileged information, so the plaintiffs lawyers got all of it and showed how hard Jones has been lying. Holy poo poo. There's loving things up, and then there's loving things up. I don't want Jones to win anything but man I'd be telling him to sue those lawyers after a gently caress-up that bad. spinst posted:i'm going to have to watch that cell phone reveal at least ten more times. each time focusing on a different person's reaction. I'm going to absolutely look at the archives now on Law and Crime because what the absolute hell lmao
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spinst posted:plantiff's team asked the defense if it was priviledged and got no response I don't think this is true. It would be on Jones' team to request privilege.
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KitConstantine posted:Quoting for the new page and for added context:
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It's incredible it's like... it didn't have to be this way and yet it was, for our lols and amusement conspiracy theory: Alex Jones's lawyer hates him and would rather just sink him if possible, so he "forgot" to respond to the notification 
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Unlucky7 posted:Imma idiot; How did Jones lawyer screw up in so badly that he not only sent all his texts, but they are submittable as evidence? They weren't until two days ago. Jones kept his lawyers so busy with his antics, they didn't have time to correct their mistake. Had they done so at any point after sending the phone backup, Farrar and Ball could not use it as evidence without prompting an actual mistrial, even with all the fuckery done until this point. As for how the lawyers sent it, my theory is that even they believed Jones's lies that he sent no text messages or emails to anyone ever, let alone about Sandy Hook. According, if that evidence really did not exist, then his phone must've been perfectly safe to handle. Must've been. Surely. Remember, the defense lawyers have only been on this date for a few months at most. What I don't like about those emails is that they imply Jones is, in fact, literate. Unfortunately, that doesn't jive with the other evidence we've seen.
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