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Captain America 1, Thor 1, and Eternals are the only MCU movies I didn't see in theaters. Eternals is dead last in the MCU for me, even below The Incredible Hulk, The Dark World, and Age of Ultron. I knew nothing about Eternals before the movie and none of them really endeared to me.
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I don't think Eternals is bad, but it's mediocre and, to me at least, that's the worst thing a piece of media can be. At least actual bad things can be enjoyed in a fun "so bad it's good" way.Parkingtigers posted:But then, I know my opinion will be ignored because I'm also in the very lonely defense force for Cats 2019 which, no, gently caress you, will be looked back on as a cult classic one day. I thought it already was? Or do you mean people will enjoy it unironically? TwoPair fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Eternals is like Thor: Dark World in that I can tell you I watched it but can't tell you anything about it.
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Reuters confirms that WB is planning to announce "a new strategy" for streaming today on their public media and earnings call. - HBOMax is officially dead and will be folded into Discovery+, they are considering giving Discovery+ a new name after the merge. - They are not only eliminating the scripted content streaming division, but also the unscripted streaming content division at HBOMax to fold it into the existing unscripted content division at Discovery. - Firm commitments to no streaming exclusive movies or same day streaming releases going forward. - Considering (but, not confirmed) a new free, but ad-supported, streaming service for WB's "classic" movies. - All the media departments (movie, TV, digital, and gaming) will be vertically integrated and working together to create tie-in content for big IPs they own. Also looking into how to merge/tie-in departments that exist at both Discovery and Warner. - They plan to slash executive compensation, engage in a wave of layoffs, and find ways to cancel expensive long-term contracts that the previous management signed (particularly the $250 million exclusivity deal with JJ Abrams and his production company). - They have hired back the former WB Studio Executive who worked on Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings to help guide the movie division. They want to focus exclusively on huge blockbusters and existing IP that does not require them to pay for a license in order to make fewer movies, but safer and larger profits per project, with the movie division. quote:Warner Bros Discovery expected to unveil new streaming strategy https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/warner-bros-discovery-expected-unveil-new-streaming-strategy-2022-08-04/ Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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RIP WB What a sad ending to one the oldest and most celebrated film studios. Carved and feasted upon. It's gonna be very interesting to see how they spin the next DC Fandome (if they even do it) when massive chunks of the stuff teased in the last one is now gone.
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Arist posted:Eternals was fine imo Yeah. It was a little meandering and probably should have been a series on D+. But it's fine. I think the way they did super speed with Makkari is still the best way it's been shown on film.
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so canceling hbo max then.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah. It was a little meandering and probably should have been a series on D+. But it's fine. I think the way they did super speed with Makkari is still the best way it's been shown on film. Yeah that was the highlight for sure
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Shindragon posted:so canceling hbo max then. Technically, HBOMax won't exist anymore to cancel. But, all of the HBOMax content (except, apparently, the "classic" WB movies) and Discovery content will be on one new platform with a new name. They just won't have HBOMax exclusive movies anymore and once a movie leaves theaters it will be up on the new streaming service shortly after. They are merging Discovery+ and HBOMax to create a new platform. I feel like it would be crazy to ditch the HBO branding entirely for whatever their new platform name is, but who knows?
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Parkingtigers posted:I totally get why a lot of people would bounce off Eternals though, because that's how I feel about that kind of comic book. But then, I know my opinion will be ignored because I'm also in the very lonely defense force for Cats 2019 which, no, gently caress you, will be looked back on as a cult classic one day. release the butthole cut
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I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. Can someone please dumb this down for me?
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I'm sure the new combined streaming service that will be neither Discovery+ nor HBOMax will have a cool creative name befitting the fun & fresh new direction. Something like Jorgle.
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CzarChasm posted:I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. Basically everything is a tie in. Like how there were DC comic books about the Arrowverse version of characters but they want that to be the only thing.
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CzarChasm posted:I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. They make movies, video games, TV shows in tandem and with the teams sharing information during development. So, that each product can be released around the same time and feature/coordinate around the same plot, actors, release dates, etc. You know how a lot of licensed tie-in video games or novels for movies either come out a year after the movie or have nothing to do with the movie? It's because they are developed by third-parties who buy the license after the movie is out and have nothing to do with the team who made the original product. This is to make sure they are produced to "compliment" each other, all done in-house by WB, and be strategically released/marketed/etc. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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CzarChasm posted:I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. DC writes a comic book which gets made into a movie which has a video game adaptation, all of which is owned by WB
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CzarChasm posted:I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. Business term for owning most or all of the process of making a good or providing a service. If your french fry business was vertically integrated your company would own the farm that grows the potatoes. Like for their videogames they won't license to another studio but make them all in-house.
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Opopanax posted:DC writes a comic book which gets made into a movie which has a video game adaptation, all of which is owned by WB This is the much more succinct version of my answer.
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Compare to horizontal integration, which is something like Disney buying Fox.
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The new management is making some radical changes all at once, but also holy poo poo how bad was the previous WB management at managing finances? They signed a $250 million deal with JJ Abrams to make "Demimonde" and then decided to walk away from it. They were also considering giving Abrams an extra $200 million for the budget for the show. They also offered Abrams HALF A BILLION for an exclusivity contract. They were also apparently SHOCKED that they didn't make the standard "double budget" profit of $140 million on the $70 million they put into Zach Snyder's Justice League that only released on Blu-ray and streaming. And they were prepared to pay the Game of Thrones guys a quarter of a billion for the exclusive rights to their "What if the south won the civil war and it turned out mostly fine?" TV series that they eventually had to back away from. Not to mention the whole DCEU saga and the fact that they were surprised that their $45 million per hour of content streaming only TV show ended up not making its budget back. Did they at least consult an accountant or google how much money a movie makes in theaters vs. streaming? Just astonishingly bad with money. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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While you’re not wrong on any count, it still just seems par for the course. Amazon burning money on LOTR, Netflix giving us THE GRAY MAN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE, just all streaming places scrambling for relevance.
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Cael posted:While you’re not wrong on any count, it still just seems par for the course. Amazon burning money on LOTR, Netflix giving us THE GRAY MAN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE, just all streaming places scrambling for relevance. A lot of those places are burning money for prestige projects with the expectation of losing money. WB execs were apparently shocked that the Snyder Cut didn't generate at least $140 million in revenue with no theatrical release.
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But they had thousands of fans asking for it on Twitter! THose fans only needed to buy a few thousand HBOMax subs each!
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A decade from now we are going to find out the bots used to push for the Snyder cut non-stop were all bought and financed by some mentally ill lawyer in LA. Lmaa at the Snyder cut destroying the WB.
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I really can't wait for the return of bad movie tie in video games. The biggest worry I have is they shoving out a film that has zero budget of Superman or someone else big, and it flopping massively and the new powers that be going "naw, lets just shelve the whole thing" and no more DC films.
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The MCU broke so many brains. Everyone is trying to copy the success but going about it the wrong way or wanting it to be instantly as popular.
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twistedmentat posted:I really can't wait for the return of bad movie tie in video games. Their strategy is the exact opposite of that. Only release guaranteed big budget stuff.
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Well it would make sense to release big budget stuff in theaters and smaller budget non IP driven stuff on streaming but I'm not some big-wig super CEO venture capitalist ubermensch so what do I know?
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Also I guess Gaga as Harley is official. https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1555222357882458114
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CzarChasm posted:I keep seeing "vertically integrated" in these announcements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7oht6TD9c
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Aphrodite posted:Their strategy is the exact opposite of that. Only release guaranteed big budget stuff. It sounded like they were only going for big box office films, not that they were going to be willing to give directors whatever they wanted in terms of budget. Discovery isn't well known for high budget productions.
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I look forward to the big budget adaptation of Fast n Loud
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Aphrodite posted:Also I guess Gaga as Harley is official. this one is safe since the first one made a billion dollars, but bears noting that Zaslav probably wouldn't have greenlit the original in the first place given that it's a DC film that only cost $70 million
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Codependent Poster posted:The MCU broke so many brains. Everyone is trying to copy the success but going about it the wrong way or wanting it to be instantly as popular. If anyone else had been in charge of the MCU the moment Endgame was done they would be screaming for the next Avengers movie with as close to the same lineup as they could get. Instead we got a lot of experimental movies & TV shows with relatively unknown characters. Loki, WandaVision and Moon Knight have some really weird concepts in their center and it takes knowing the source material and trusting it to take the risk of producing them.
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TwoPair posted:
Skimbleshanks: The Railway Cat* is, completely unironically, five of the finest minutes of cinema ever to grace a theater. *the cat of the railway train.
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Darth Brooks posted:If anyone else had been in charge of the MCU the moment Endgame was done they would be screaming for the next Avengers movie with as close to the same lineup as they could get. Instead we got a lot of experimental movies & TV shows with relatively unknown characters. Which is funny because DC's best projects are the offbeat ones and not the big superhero centered ones, except for The Batman. Peacemaker probably never would have been made with the current guy in charge. Same with Harley, Doom Patrol, and Stargirl. Also I really hate that they're gonna do Joker and Harley as a couple again. That concept just sucks. I'm sure it'll be a little different for the movie, but I don't have much faith it'll be done well. I'd rather it not be done at all.
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Instead of Taxi Driver they're just gonna do One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest except the patient bangs the nurse this time
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I assume it’s actually gonna be a play on New York, New York. The Scorsese musical with De Niro and Liza Minelli.
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https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555295932153008129 I wonder if we're going to see the DCEU and the 90DFU merge in Crisis Event. New service coming next summer. https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555296855680077826
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The Shark Week "franchise" and "the 90 Day Fiance Universe", like c'mon that is indistinguishable from parody.
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Lobok posted:The Shark Week "franchise" and "the 90 Day Fiance Universe", like c'mon that is indistinguishable from parody. https://twitter.com/variety/status/1555298508407599104?s=21&t=9MFhe_soM2Q_D5UV8LqzyA Like this is bizarre
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