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In slightly positive news for Brittney Griner, Russia has downgraded her sentence from 10 years in a penal colony to 9.5 years in regular prison. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1555179208325881856
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In slightly positive news for Brittney Griner, Russia has downgraded her sentence from 10 years in a penal colony to 9.5 years in regular prison. "Potential" sentence, correct? As in, that's what the prosecutors are asking for? As far as I know the sentence has not yet been rendered.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:46
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:that's strange since everything i heard on political twitter is that nevada was the favorite for first in the nation since its diverse, urban and easy to campaign in since its really just a city-state with a lot of hinterland I don't think Nevada is in any danger of not being in the top 5. I think they are just paranoid about doing anything new right before an election. A bunch of states complained about it and I think most people just went along with it because they didn't care and Michigan/Minnesota really begged for it to keep working on getting their state GOP on board with moving the primary.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:48
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there a reason why that hasn't caused problems for him yet? I imagine probably because they're still busy working through all the other things.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:48
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Tibeerius posted:"Potential" sentence, correct? As in, that's what the prosecutors are asking for? As far as I know the sentence has not yet been rendered. Yeah, the verdict is coming down this afternoon. Prosecutors lowered the requested sentence from 10 years in a penal colony to 9.5 in regular prison today.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:49
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there a reason why that hasn't caused problems for him yet? Presumably the same reason Epstein's list of clients hasn't caused any problems. Money and connected people in power. Whether or not that means the vast majority of the liches in government and justice are pedophiles or not is kind of an open question, but judging from the reckoning in the UK where it turned out like basically everyone in media was ... I would err on the side of "probably."
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Aug 4, 2022 14:49
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I don't think Nevada is in any danger of not being in the top 5. I think they are just paranoid about doing anything new right before an election. A bunch of states complained about it and I think most people just went along with it because they didn't care and Michigan/Minnesota really begged for it to keep working on getting their state GOP on board with moving the primary. As a MN resident, I hope we don't get it. I'd rather continue to have our primaries on Super Tuesday.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:51
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Ershalim posted:Presumably the same reason Epstein's list of clients hasn't caused any problems. Money and connected people in power. Whether or not that means the vast majority of the liches in government and justice are pedophiles or not is kind of an open question, but judging from the reckoning in the UK where it turned out like basically everyone in media was ... I would err on the side of "probably." It's because they sent over the entire archived content for the Infowars servers and people had emailed child porn there. It wasn't on one of Jones' personal devices. The FBi investigated and found that someone emailed it to the Infowars website, but nobody working there ever requested it or kept it or downloaded it. Edit: Just as a general rule, please read the article before speculating what is in the article. Kalit posted:As a MN resident, I hope we don't get it. I'd rather continue to have our primaries on Super Tuesday. Get in touch with your local GOP party chair and tell them not to do it. It's basically up to them. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 14:55
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there a reason why that hasn't caused problems for him yet? Because it wasn't in the mailbox/sent by Jones or anyone else at InfoWars, it was the mostly unread inbox of the show and was found when they dumped the whole thing and turned it over during discovery. If InfoWars had done any actual work they'd have found the poo poo _before_ turning it over but they didn't and so the plaintiff's lawyers found it and notified the FBI. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/18/alex-jones-documents-sent-to-sandy-hook-families-contained-child-porn.html quote:After getting the electronic files from Jones last month, the plaintiffs’ electronic information consultants then began loading those files into a database to make it easier to review them, according to the filing.
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Aug 4, 2022 14:57
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Slowpoke! posted:How come when I search Alex Jones child porn all the articles are from June 2019 There are few things in the world I would want to search less than Alex jones child porn
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Aug 4, 2022 15:15
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In slightly positive news for Brittney Griner, Russia has downgraded her sentence from 10 years in a penal colony to 9.5 years in regular prison. What's the difference between a penal colony and a regular prison here? I was under the impression penal colony is really just the term for Russian prisons in the same way she's currently being held in a "correctional colony" and not a "jail".
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Aug 4, 2022 15:23
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Gumball Gumption posted:What's the difference between a penal colony and a regular prison here? I was under the impression penal colony is really just the term for Russian prisons in the same way she's currently being held in a "correctional colony" and not a "jail". The main differences are: Prison is basically what you think of as a stereotypical prison - individual cells, bars, free time to walk around the yard and do whatever, and the prison has a public address. You can work there and there are several different kinds of work/jobs. Prison is also generally run and staffed by the federal government who just oversee that particular prison. The Penal Colony does not have a public address and prisoners are not told specifically where they are going. No family/outside visits. Housing is "barracks style" with large rows of bunk beds in a single common building/room, and everyone at the penal colony is there to do a specific kind of work - i.e. everyone there is mining one specific mine or working on one specific project. The Penal Colonies are largely run and staffed by local authorities and have a federal government representative who oversees multiple colonies.
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Aug 4, 2022 15:31
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Griner convicted and sentenced to 9 years in prison for possession of less than a gram of vape fluid containing cannabis oil. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1555208974714257416 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 16:36
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Looks like four officers involved in the Breonna Taylor raid are being charged. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/us/breonna-taylor-federal-charges/index.html
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Aug 4, 2022 16:49
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Also, this took a while, but the DOJ is pursuing federal charges against 4 Kentucky police officers involved in the Breonna Taylor shooting. Only one officer was charged at the state level and he was acquitted in a jury trial. https://twitter.com/steffdaz/status/1555211167806603266 Edit: Beaten by seconds!
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Aug 4, 2022 16:50
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Has someone higher up in the DNC finally taken the  handcuffs off? It seems like people are finding their spine all of a sudden and are fighting fire with fire.
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Aug 4, 2022 16:54
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Garland is personally giving a press conference now with the federal prosecutors who will trying the Kentucky officers. https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/status/1555210220565037057 https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/status/1555219756537585665
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Aug 4, 2022 16:59
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Garland says they have evidence that all 4 officers met in a garage immediately following the shooting and agreed to come up with a false story and stick to it. Not sure how the state prosecutor missed that if there is readily accessible evidence from a body cam, radio, or car recording. And if there wasn't something easily accessible, then I wonder how the DOJ got their hands on it.
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Aug 4, 2022 17:12
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Garland says they have evidence that all 4 officers met in a garage immediately following the shooting and agreed to come up with a false story and stick to it. the state prosecutor is mitch mcconnell's super-ambitious protege who is now running for governor and is probably going to run for president once there's an opening on the gop side hth. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Garland is personally giving a press conference now with the federal prosecutors who will trying the Kentucky officers. kansas has democrats asking strange questions like: what if we governed?
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Aug 4, 2022 17:16
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:kansas has democrats asking strange questions like: what if we governed? This case has been years in the making. The timing just happens to be coincidental.
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Aug 4, 2022 17:19
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Not sure how the state prosecutor missed that if there is readily accessible evidence from a body cam, radio, or car recording. And if there wasn't something easily accessible, then I wonder how the DOJ got their hands on it. They sent it to Alex Jones
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Aug 4, 2022 17:20
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, this took a while, but the DOJ is pursuing federal charges against 4 Kentucky police officers involved in the Breonna Taylor shooting. how can the acquitted officer be charged again and not be considered double Jeopardy? E: I take it because the charges are different? lil poopendorfer fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 17:38
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lil poopendorfer posted:how can the acquitted officer be charged again and not be considered double Jeopardy? Different jurisdictions; state versus feds
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Aug 4, 2022 17:47
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TipTow posted:Different jurisdictions; state versus feds I feel like anything Federal civil rights ish is just grandstanding at this point, won't it all just vanish in a puff of smoke in '24 (and be significantly hamstrung after the red wave midterms).
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Aug 4, 2022 17:52
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TipTow posted:Different jurisdictions; state versus feds Also if the feds have evidence of conspiracy or perjury as seems to be implied, all bets are basically off. Edit ^^^^ federal prosecutors have something like a 90-95‰ conviction rate. They don't go to trial unless it's basically bulletproof. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 17:55
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lil poopendorfer posted:how can the acquitted officer be charged again and not be considered double Jeopardy? its technically different crimes. he's not being charged for wanton endangerment which he was acquitted of hes being charged for civil rights violations
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slurm posted:I feel like anything Federal civil rights ish is just grandstanding at this point, won't it all just vanish in a puff of smoke in '24 (and be significantly hamstrung after the red wave midterms). I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. What do you mean by "I feel like anything Federal civil rights ish is just grandstanding at this point," like these arrests are politically motivated as opposed to motivated by justice? And how would a GOP-controlled Congress hamstring the DOJ from prosecuting people in '23-'24, most especially when there's still a Democrat in the White House?
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TipTow posted:I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. What do you mean by "I feel like anything Federal civil rights ish is just grandstanding at this point," like these arrests are politically motivated as opposed to motivated by justice? A GOP prez will be able to just pardon anyone after '24 and if we have a big pro-GOP polling error as usual there are enough seats up in the Senate to impeach and remove next year, though that seems like a long shot.
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Aug 4, 2022 18:12
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slurm posted:A GOP prez will be able to just pardon anyone after '24 and if we have a big pro-GOP polling error as usual there are enough seats up in the Senate to impeach and remove next year, though that seems like a long shot. To get 60 seats, the GOP would need to win every senate race plus three of: California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Illinois, and Maryland.
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Aug 4, 2022 18:21
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Xombie posted:To get 60 seats, the GOP would need to win every senate race plus three of: California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Illinois, and Maryland. I think you could get some pretty Reaganesque maps with the swings we're seeing in Latinos and suburbanites who are lapping up fearmongering crime news, but Kansas seems to suggest we may see some pushback. I'm speculating too much, but I'm not too hopeful about justice in these cases either.
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They need 67 seats for an impeachment conviction. There are not enough flippable seats up for election this year to reach that; even if they somehow swept all the solid blue states they would have 64
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slurm posted:I think you could get some pretty Reaganesque maps with the swings we're seeing in Latinos and suburbanites who are lapping up fearmongering crime news, but Kansas seems to suggest we may see some pushback. I'm speculating too much, but I'm not too hopeful about justice in these cases either. An actual Reaganesque distribution in the Senate would be 98 R - 2D. So, it will probably not quite reach Reaganesque levels.
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Also pardoning four officers involved in a racially motivated murder is likely to have uh, consequences. I'm not saying the fascists ghouls wouldn't do that kind of thing but forcing the fascists to fash isn't a reason not to pursue justice if that's the best avenue.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:An actual Reaganesque distribution in the Senate would be 98 R - 2D. So, it will probably be not quite reach Reaganesque levels. Well I mean only 14 Dems are running this year. I thought it was 15, which would've hit 67 with a sweep and flipping Manchin/Sinema but luckily I'm wrong. Mendrian posted:Also pardoning four officers involved in a racially motivated murder is likely to have uh, consequences. I'm not saying the fascists ghouls wouldn't do that kind of thing but forcing the fascists to fash isn't a reason not to pursue justice if that's the best avenue. Yeah I definitely agree that all the tools should be vigorously used regardless of my optimism level. slurm fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 18:35
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Mendrian posted:Also pardoning four officers involved in a racially motivated murder is likely to have uh, consequences. I'm not saying the fascists ghouls wouldn't do that kind of thing but forcing the fascists to fash isn't a reason not to pursue justice if that's the best avenue. Despite their cult-like appearance the GOP doesn't actually have any real loyalty to one another and certainly not to their fashy racist base. I doubt we'd see that kind of a pardon happen either way.
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slurm posted:A GOP prez will be able to just pardon anyone after '24 and if we have a big pro-GOP polling error as usual there are enough seats up in the Senate to impeach and remove next year, though that seems like a long shot. What point are you trying to make? That we shouldn't bother with any action because it might be reversed at some point in the future? That's nearly everything in politics. I guess you can consider everything related to politics as grandstanding, but why bother with any of it at that point? Kalit fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 18:42
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You could say it's almost as if Alex Jones lawyers are crisis actors. 
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Aug 4, 2022 19:14
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Kalit posted:Why do you think campaign ads that bring up prior votes makes a noticeable impact on an election? Especially on an issue where most politicians are pretty upfront with where they stand on it, such as abortion? Because I’m old and I was very shaken by ‘Daisy’ as a 7 year old child? OK, forget that. Here’s two examples: “Morning In America” 1984. The 2nd most effective ad after Daisy. And the one against Dukakis with the revolving door.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Looks like child porn was found in the data Jones's lawyers sent over. Seriously? Because if this is true I’m going to party like it’s 1999!
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VideoGameVet posted:Seriously? Because if this is true I’m going to party like it’s 1999! I guess not. This is a 2019 news item and of course, zero consequences.
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