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bigperm posted:6 hours of actual doom and gloom followed by 6 hours of punitive gloom and doom. Exactly.
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bigperm posted:6 hours of actual doom and gloom followed by 6 hours of punitive gloom and doom. Digital Jedi posted:I didn't expect $150M award or anything close to it. Maybe $30M+ or something. Yeah $150m compensatory was never happening, but I was expecting $20m or so. Maybe the issue is that my expectations about compensatory are out of whack. Popehat is usually pretty insightful on these sort of things and he argued that the verdict was actually on the high end. The real problem in that case would be that Texas has such aggressive caps on punitive damages, which is where "Bankrupt Alex because he's a shitstain" should happen in theory. ryde fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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I'm reserving my judgement for the punitive damages compensatory are the ones that are literally compensating you for money lost, which wasn't much in this case. it's all about the punitive with this one. curious to see what that will be.
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plantiff's lawyer indicated punitive could be tens of millions; there are also sanctions, CT, and the phone stuff - so it's far from over for the fat sack of red poo poo
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Tree Dude posted:So we're sure about this 750k thing? I'm definitely not, the snippets of the Texas code people have been posting are at odds with what Bankston is saying. So ??? I figure the guy who's made this case his life probably knows better than internet lawyers.
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I’m pretty sure randos on the internet know more than the lawyer on the case
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What was the thing about additional charges after the the verdict was read?
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The 750k question
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neato burrito posted:What was the thing about additional charges after the the verdict was read? nobody knoooooooows one assumes the mystery charge has to do with The Dropbox
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nice to see the jury making sure alex jones has money to pay out to the families suing him in ct where he is certainly going to get hosed harder than in tx
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bigperm posted:6 hours of actual doom and gloom followed by (x10% of) 6 hours of punitive gloom and doom.
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Ringo Roadagain posted:nice to see the jury making sure alex jones has money to pay out to the families suing him in ct where he is certainly going to get hosed harder than in tx Apparently there won’t be a stream of it unfortunately. I understand why I guess but I mean, cmooooooooooon
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GreyjoyBastard posted:nobody knoooooooows Ok, what things are within the realm of legal possibility? Is this the point where sanctions / perjury / contempt of court happens? Or more likely to be financial stuff?
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"alex jones will be fiiiiine" "you're a gibbering moron!!" *doodily doodily doot* "guys. realistically alex jones was always gonna be fine..." "what a mature and correct take good sir!" *wank*
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So at least 2 jurors were already pilled, right?
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https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1555308262894907392 Hopefully they've built for max damage in this case
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teen witch posted:Apparently there won’t be a stream of it unfortunately. I understand why I guess but I mean, cmooooooooooon thats unfortunate but he will still being paying millions of dollars to the families involved in that one too. Ringo Roadagain fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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I think the amount with regards to compensatory poo poo is kind of okay, like that's don't need to work ever again money. Hopefully punitive is maxed out. On the other hand, that leaves more money for every other person Alex has hosed with and all sorts of poo poo is going to come crawling out of the woodwork.
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Elderbean posted:So at least 2 jurors were already pilled, right? I don't see any way the 2 jurors wanted to give more, that's for certain.
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Well I’m sad my pessimistic guess was wrong. Hopefully Bankston is right about a higher cap than the thread’s consensus, but I’m setting expectations low again. I hope something comes out of the phone drop but otoh if I were a conspiracy theorist I’d try to keep the incriminating poo poo off my phone. But then again it’s Alex Jones so lol hopefully not. But it could be like 99% pictures of puppies and dumb memes.
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InsertPotPun posted:"alex jones will be fiiiiine" I'm too stupid to offer any kind of prediction about how all this ends, but by any estimate this one trial is only the beginning of Alex's legal troubles. I'm not gonna hold my breath for him to suffer real, meaningful consequences, but I will keep my fingers crossed.
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well I think we're owed the phone being the smoking gun that implicates everyone in Jan 6th.
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https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1555310031171641346?s=20 Well if that’s true I guess we can expect nothing.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I don't see any way the 2 jurors wanted to give more, that's for certain. I wasn’t part of the deliberations but It’s possible isn’t it? Only 10 out of the 12 needed to agree (and that 10 had to agree on everything) so if 10 people wanted a low amount 2 who wanted higher could just not sign the judgment. But it goes the other way too so who knows.
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run on sentience posted:This might be a very stupid question but I've never known anyone who's done jury duty... What the jury knows about the law is supposed to come from the judge/trial and they aren't allowed to mention it at the trial.
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neato burrito posted:Ok, what things are within the realm of legal possibility? Is this the point where sanctions / perjury / contempt of court happens? Or more likely to be financial stuff? I *think* those charges would be handled separately after this trial wraps up but I dunno, maybe one of them can double dip as a civil violation?
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Hey Goons, thank you for the links and effort posts to keep the rest of us informed. I would prefer to never have heard of Alex Jones but we can’t ignore dangerous people and hope they go away.
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teen witch posted:
red and yella, kill a fella red and black, venom lack right wing shiller, career killer
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I don’t know where Mark is getting 10x. The court will reduce them to the statutory cap, which is $750k because there are only non-economic damages.
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Yeah after today I’m not holding out any hope, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if something happens but I’m not allowing myself to wish that justice will actually happen again.
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Yeah idk either but Mark is pretty good at his job and I trust he did the diligence to figure out a basic fact like 'how much can I expect to have my clients recieve" so whatever he says is what I'm going with at the moment.
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Not really “punitive” if he pays it out of pocket change and makes it all back next week in boner pill sales, is it?
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reignofevil posted:Yeah idk either but Mark is pretty good at his job and I trust he did the diligence to figure out a basic fact like 'how much can I expect to have my clients recieve" so whatever he says is what I'm going with at the moment. Texas civil remedies code is pretty clear. Mark may have misspoke and meant to say two times not ten times, but even then it's only 2x economic damages, and the damages awarded in this case are, per the code, non-economic damages. I've found TX supreme court precedent on a defamation case from 2020 that supports this argument when I was looking on my phone earlier. Granted that was business defamation and the court overruled for different reasons, they acknowledge the caps in a footnote citing the civil remedies code I'm using. edit: both of these cases support the caps I'm talking about : https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1437042/150056.pdf https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1448050/181211.pdf Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Everyone shut the gently caress up and check this poo poo out
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Raged posted:Alex is going to make more than 5 Million today alone. His fan base won't care about anything that came out during the trial. Honestly, AJ got away without any real consequences. bankston is sending several years of Jones' texts to the Jan 6th committee, the lawyers in Jones' other lawsuits, the media, and probably Jones' ex-wife that's a consequence
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4 million. Lol. Like one week of FrogTech sales.
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I hope when they get the forensic accountant on the stand tomorrow the jury thinks upon their decision today
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I'm reserving my judgement for the punitive damages This is what Reynal argued and convinced the jury to set such low damages. It’s not true but your post shows how the insurance agencies have tainted future jury pools. You are talking about economic damages which are compensatory but so are non-economic damages. Pain and suffering is compensatory.
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