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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1554898759196315648 Sounds like they're just scorched earthing the HBO max streaming service in general.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 04:49 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:34 |
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HBO Max has probably been the most successful streamer in the past two years. But it’s also not clear how that industry is going to make any money without some kind of major consolidation. I mostly empathize with all the post-merger Discovery decisions so far, tbh.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 04:56 |
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just have constant cycles of Going Bender, then coming back under A , B, or C before Going Bender and then coming back-
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 05:18 |
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drat they killed all the good adult swim streams for nothing.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 07:06 |
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not true, they got some nice quarterly stonk numbers.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 07:30 |
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MisterOblivious posted:This is the predicted Ecto-1 cost: oh my god that sucks lmao
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:02 |
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Vegetable posted:HBO Max has probably been the most successful streamer in the past two years. But it’s also not clear how that industry is going to make any money without some kind of major consolidation. I mostly empathize with all the post-merger Discovery decisions so far, tbh. Why would you merge it into discovery plus instead of the other way around lol. If Hardee’s merged with McDonald’s would you expect all the McDonald’s to rebrand as Hardee’s?
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:11 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why would you merge it into discovery plus instead of the other way around lol. If Hardee’s merged with McDonald’s would you expect all the McDonald’s to rebrand as Hardee’s? Been theorised in other threads it's for branding purposes; non-US audiences can't be expected to know anything about what HBO is and why they should care, Discovery plays better in wider markets.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:22 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Been theorised in other threads it's for branding purposes; non-US audiences can't be expected to know anything about what HBO is and why they should care, Discovery plays better in wider markets. HBO is pretty big here and offers nearly the same selection, though it’ll gently caress up premieres all the goddamn time (and say nothing, at all, about it)
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:27 |
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Anora posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1554898759196315648 Close Enough... I really liked that one
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:42 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why would you merge it into discovery plus instead of the other way around lol. If Hardee’s merged with McDonald’s would you expect all the McDonald’s to rebrand as Hardee’s? Also because Discovery made the actual purchase so they don't want to be the secondary brand.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 15:51 |
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kdrudy posted:Also because Discovery made the actual purchase so they don't want to be the secondary brand. https://twitter.com/fivepoisonskid/status/1554923137141194753
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 17:59 |
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Having looked at the transaction again, I don’t think it’s even that Discovery “owns” WB now. Discovery shareholders own just 29% of the new company, while AT&T shareholders (former owners of WB) own 71%.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 19:03 |
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Vegetable posted:Having looked at the transaction again, I don’t think it’s even that Discovery “owns” WB now. Discovery shareholders own just 29% of the new company, while AT&T shareholders (former owners of WB) own 71%. Even if they don't, the fact of the matter is that the people running WB Discovery are nearly all Discovery executives (many appointed by AT&T). This whole thing is very remiscient of the Boeing/McDonnell-Douglas merger where despite the former acquiring the latter, all the top positions were occupied by MDD executives who proceeded to bring their extreme cost-cutting mentality to the company which ultimately resulted in the 737 MAX debacle.
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# ? Aug 4, 2022 19:17 |
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its insane top-to-bottom. You run one of the biggest movie studios in the world, own ips from superman to scooby doo to bugs bunny to lord of the rings, have a big 4 streaming service, the second biggest news network in the US and biggest internationally and say to yourself: you know who we need to put this company on the right track? the guys who brought us cake boss
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# ? Aug 5, 2022 00:47 |
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every other tweet about the WB merger is an incredible 30 rock meme https://twitter.com/BenjaminCrew1/status/1554823559192756225?s=20&t=hBW6lTXqNPMF_ynN0Z7Sew https://twitter.com/BenjaminCrew1/status/1555042446500823040
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# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:36 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:every other tweet about the WB merger is an incredible 30 rock meme Lol. 30 rock was so good.
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# ? Aug 5, 2022 18:01 |
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Nothing AT&T does is meant to make sense. Case in point, buying DirecTV. Heck, they tried to buy T-Mobile, failed, and T-Mobile used the $5 billion break up fee to better complete against AT&T. Death Star execs would have been better off just burning the 5 billion. Discovery+ is a decent streaming service and HBO Max was a really good service, so of course the combined one will suck poo poo through a straw.
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# ? Aug 6, 2022 23:37 |
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I dont know anyone that thought direct tv was a smart move, no one uses that poo poo and streaming has just made that market collapse anymore.
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# ? Aug 6, 2022 23:58 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:I dont know anyone that thought direct tv was a smart move, no one uses that poo poo and streaming has just made that market collapse anymore.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 00:04 |
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Buying DirecTV was AT&T trying to solve a 2010’s problem instead of 2020’s one. It let them leapfrog local cable providers/telcos to offer cable to almost everyone in America. But now people are canceling cable providers and instead streaming. That requires fast internet and AT&T sucks at high speed internet. They could upgrade more of their network to fiber, but they’re already 180 billion in debt. Essentially they looked at a table full of goblets and instead of the Holy Grail they picked DirecTV.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:29 |
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To be fair, does any established company with decades of business experience manage to pick the next new hotness and succeed at it with better odds than random chance?
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 05:57 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Buying DirecTV was AT&T trying to solve a 2010’s problem instead of 2020’s one. It let them leapfrog local cable providers/telcos to offer cable to almost everyone in America. And then every leftist who had ATT plans canceled them and switched to T-Mobile because ATT funded OAN And then when they cut OAN, right wing lunatics switched to Verizon because ATT cowtowed to the WOKE MOB!
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 06:43 |
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I'm probably not renewing AT&T because I like the big unlimited plan that comes with a bunch of poo poo and they cut all that bunch of poo poo and made the only offer HBO max and I already get that with Cox. They also almost hosed me on the phone buyback.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 07:41 |
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Hindsight is 20/20, not to mention how hard it is to pivot big companies. Look at Facebook struggling to develop even a single new line of business. Dissing At&t for not becoming Netflix is fun but also kinda silly.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 07:45 |
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I worked at ATT while they went through and completed the direct TV merger, and they did it because A. ATT desperately always wants to be seen as more than a cell phone company and V. Randall Stephenson spent ATT money for years to justify getting large bonuses as CEO, then left the company with the bag when he “retired.” As always, the executives assumed the product would “sell itself” because everyone hates cable. But they forget that everyone hating cable includes direct tv and the cell phone bill too. So every Direct TV pitch was “do you want to pay more for this than you are paying for tv + internet but hey you’ll get $10-20 off your cell phone bill! “ Plus, in most markets where ATT did not have fiber, they failed to realize that Direct TV did not have sporting rights for local sports. Imagine having to try and sell this product in Philadelphia and literally not being able to offer the Phillies, Flyers, Eagles or 76ers. It was a nightmare.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 12:20 |
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Vegetable posted:Hindsight is 20/20, not to mention how hard it is to pivot big companies. Look at Facebook struggling to develop even a single new line of business. Dissing At&t for not becoming Netflix is fun but also kinda silly. also I don't think anyone at Meta has informed Zuck that Second Life was already a thing
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 16:22 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Facebook is trying to create an entire new ecosystem that people aren't even asking for, it's not a surprise that it's not going well Lol. gently caress Facebook.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 16:39 |
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Duckman2008 posted:I worked at ATT while they went through and completed the direct TV merger, and they did it because A. ATT desperately always wants to be seen as more than a cell phone company and V. Randall Stephenson spent ATT money for years to justify getting large bonuses as CEO, then left the company with the bag when he “retired.” Former AT&T here too. Even in a world of lovely CEO’s, Randall Stephenson was *extra*. It was always going to be difficult for AT&T to pivot, but making every bad decision they could certainly didn’t help matters. If 5G home internet becomes a thing (please become a thing) I think AT&T gets buried under its own costly infrastructure.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 16:55 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Facebook is trying to create an entire new ecosystem that people aren't even asking for, it's not a surprise that it's not going well Second Life and cryptobros: together at last!
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 19:10 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Facebook is trying to create an entire new ecosystem that people aren't even asking for, it's not a surprise that it's not going well I think they have, Zuckerberg is just too into it to accept that
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 19:46 |
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Volmarias posted:I think they have, Zuckerberg is just too into it to accept that It generally doesn't work out well when a super successful company does something that is just completely out of its wheelhouse like this
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 19:55 |
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Remember back in 2018 when Zuckerberg floated a Presidential run? Our collective choose-your-own-adventure book has been picking the absolute worst timelines, but I think we caught a break there when he decided to focus on VR.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 22:54 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Remember back in 2018 when Zuckerberg floated a Presidential run? Eh. Apparently it's more like he could be president AND run facebook. He choose money over politics. Well, that kind of politics. He's still helping fascists with fascebook. Ironiy cat or something.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 23:56 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Remember back in 2018 when Zuckerberg floated a Presidential run? I think he realized that it's cheaper and easier to just pay the politicians to do what you want, especially if you promise to back them when they overthrow the government in exchange for removing any oversight.
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# ? Aug 8, 2022 08:38 |
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https://twitter.com/thedrunkriders/status/1556778795453108225?s=21&t=k5ME8EikpQbbtDTFQIJSGQ Mark Shapiro led them to bankruptcy
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# ? Aug 9, 2022 15:32 |
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More like Six Red Flags.
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# ? Aug 9, 2022 18:34 |
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value-brand cereal posted:Eh. Apparently it's more like he could be president AND run facebook. He choose money over politics. Well, that kind of politics. He's still helping fascists with fascebook. Ironiy cat or something. It was more that everyone hates Zuckerberg and he has negative charisma. It's not even that polarizing kind of carnival showmanship that Trump had - that worked on the kind of people who get the undercoating on their used car. Zucks has the stage presence of an alien in a human suit and none of their PR attempts could get past it. Turns out there's a reason they bother with buying the politicians instead of just doing it themselves.
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# ? Aug 9, 2022 18:44 |
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Voyager I posted:It was more that everyone hates Zuckerberg and he has negative charisma. It's not even that polarizing kind of carnival showmanship that Trump had - that worked on the kind of people who get the undercoating on their used car. Zucks has the stage presence of an alien in a human suit and none of their PR attempts could get past it. Plain toast right out of the toaster, like a normal person, even Lt. Cmdr. Data could pretend to be human better than Zuck
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Zero One posted:https://twitter.com/thedrunkriders/status/1556778795453108225?s=21&t=k5ME8EikpQbbtDTFQIJSGQ
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