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McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Rumors of HBO's death were greatly exaggarated

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1555314596143108097?t=GwIY7zl1EFphzOqxWf67jg&s=19

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

He also clarified that "HBO and HBOMax" means "95% HBO and no new exclusive scripted content for HBOMax" and that HBOMax is literally dying in Summer 2023 when they fold it into Discovery+ and rename the service.

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555297044020862977
https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555295932153008129

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Lol at Grace Randolph. Folding HBO Max and Discovery+ into a rebranded service has been in the rumblings for a while. I'm remember reading about it pre-merger I'm pretty sure.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Whoa

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Double whoa

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Lol, they were gonna give Berlanti a second bite at the apple regarding Green Lantern.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

They ruined Diggle's Arrow ending for a show that never happened.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He also clarified that "HBO and HBOMax" means "95% HBO and no new exclusive scripted content for HBOMax" and that HBOMax is literally dying in Summer 2023 when they fold it into Discovery+ and rename the service.

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555297044020862977
https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555295932153008129

Hell yeah, can't wait for the Shark Week Cinematic Universe

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Bogus Adventure posted:

Hell yeah, can't wait for the Shark Week Cinematic Universe

Shark Week and the Property Brothers are going to join the Justice League.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

He also clarified that "HBO and HBOMax" means "95% HBO and no new exclusive scripted content for HBOMax" and that HBOMax is literally dying in Summer 2023 when they fold it into Discovery+ and rename the service.

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555297044020862977
https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555295932153008129

I mean, he also said this
https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555292601670156289?s=20&t=qXnLa8GBoVj0olSsI4ST6g

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555302507152384000?s=20&t=qXnLa8GBoVj0olSsI4ST6g

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555305416183189506?s=20&t=qXnLa8GBoVj0olSsI4ST6g

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555309598873190402?s=20&t=qXnLa8GBoVj0olSsI4ST6g

https://twitter.com/azalben/status/1555311942662758401?s=20&t=qXnLa8GBoVj0olSsI4ST6g

I didn't see anything about no new exclusive scripted content for HBO max from that presentation, was that something that came officially from WB or from somewhere else?

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Just for posterity to ensure I wasn't making this up, I found the article back in March that said HBO Max and Discovery+ were gonna be combined and rebranded into a new streaming platform. This was before the merger was completed.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/hbo-max-discovery-plus-combined-streaming-service-bundle-1235204060/

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Bogus Adventure posted:

Hell yeah, can't wait for the Shark Week Cinematic Universe

The unironic "90 Day Fiance Universe" in the presentation as one of their top 6 IPs is much funnier than the Shark Week Universe.

Also, "Genredom" is my new favorite business slang.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Spacebump posted:

Shark Week and the Property Brothers are going to join the Justice League.



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The unironic "90 Day Fiance Universe" in the presentation as one of their top 6 IPs is much funnier than the Shark Week Universe.

Sharks and Property Brothers are going to team up to take on the Brotherhood of Ego led by No-Neck Ed, Angela, Colt, and Andrei.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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"The anime is dying, cloud."

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1555306847392899073

They also confirmed that they are not shelving The Flash, but had to shelve Batgirl to "protect the DC brand."

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1555321206227755009

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Confirms they have a "10-year plan" for DC and the new DCCU will be centered around Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman; with the Joker mixed in.

Sounds like the same tent-pole lineup as the previous DCCU lineup except they are dumping Cyborg and The Flash. This time, it will be planned out from the beginning to be a more synergistic cinematic universe.

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1555303924306886656
https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1555314583560024064

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Releasing what is probably an "eh" movie? NO WE MUST PROTECT THE DC BRAND

Releasing a movie starring an actual child groomer? FULL STEAM AHEAD

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Pillowpants posted:

Marvel likes formats so I’d imagine we get a few origin story movies of like Storm, iceman, X and magneto etc before they unite the Xmen to fight the avengers for reasons.

Alternatively, Deadpool 3 is going to more than likely introduce the Xmen into the MCU since it was already in the last movie. Hoping we get an x force movie out of it too.

The part I'm interested in is how they manage to fold in the mutants concept- it's probably gonna be multiverse hijinks but it'll still be tricky.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Codependent Poster posted:

Releasing what is probably an "eh" movie? NO WE MUST PROTECT THE DC BRAND

Releasing a movie starring an actual child groomer? FULL STEAM AHEAD

Like they have to bite the bullet and reshoot, or else bury it entirely like they just did with Batgirl (and since they just did that with Batgirl and a few other projects, that would mean taking an additional, much bigger loss, which, yeah.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
With regards to the Flash movie in specific WB is still in the "It's just a little slimy, it's still good, it's still good" stage, and that pig's about to go airborne.

Flying Zamboni
May 7, 2007

but, uh... well, there it is

Thank God the brands are finally synergizing for maximum market penetration and SEO potential! Maybe this time around WB can hire some actually loyal directors and give us the screen-accurate adaptation of quarterly earning reports and three-year business plans we've all been waiting for!!!

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

"The anime is dying, cloud."

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1555306847392899073

They also confirmed that they are not shelving The Flash, but had to shelve Batgirl to "protect the DC brand."

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1555321206227755009

WB dumping animation seems wrong, considering their rich animation history, but I guess we'll see how that affects the rest of HBO programming.

Re: The Flash, I guess they're hoping people can separate their feelings about Ezra enough to enjoy the spectacle of the film, but that's a hell of a gamble.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
All of this does not appear to be playing very well

https://twitter.com/TomTopplerr/status/1555303227339448320

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Confirms they have a "10-year plan" for DC and the new DCCU will be centered around Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman; with the Joker mixed in.

Sounds like the same tent-pole lineup as the previous DCCU lineup except they are dumping Cyborg and The Flash. This time, it will be planned out from the beginning to be a more synergistic cinematic universe.

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1555303924306886656
https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1555314583560024064

Even with new leadership I bet they still panic and retool yet again when their first movie doesn't do "Endgame" level numbers.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

McCloud posted:

WB dumping animation seems wrong, considering their rich animation history, but I guess we'll see how that affects the rest of HBO programming.

Re: The Flash, I guess they're hoping people can separate their feelings about Ezra enough to enjoy the spectacle of the film, but that's a hell of a gamble.

It seems weird for the creator of Looney Tunes to dump animated content, but honestly, except for maybe Space Jam have there been any major successful projects from the classic WB animated IPs made recently?

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Just keep in mind that this is like an investment call for the bean-counters. Talk of "reset" has nothing to do with the story, which nothing was talked about there. It's all production stuff, the things that will effect the bottom dollar. They're doing a reset on how they're handling this stuff from how it was previously (Very poorly) and are going with a 10 year plan, whatever that is.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
While looking in to WB Discovery's plan to dump animated content, I learned that not only do they currently make (but, just announced yesterday is cancelled) an animated show about the fictional life of Ellen Degeneres as a 7-year old called "Little Ellen," but that it was entering its 4th season.

They had an entire new season completed that will never be released.

How did that concept make it so many seasons?

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Maxwell Lord posted:

The part I'm interested in is how they manage to fold in the mutants concept- it's probably gonna be multiverse hijinks but it'll still be tricky.

They might not need to - Ms. Marvel was revealed to be a Mutant at the end of her series (with the X-Men animated series theme and everything), so they're definitely laying the groundwork without going to other universes. And it's not like the MCU hasn't already done the "they were here all along, just hiding" thing a bunch of times already.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It seems weird for the creator of Looney Tunes to dump animated content, but honestly, except for maybe Space Jam have there been any major successful projects from the classic WB animated IPs made recently?

The DCAU comes to mind, as well as Brave and the Bold. Teen Titans go seems pretty popular, and Harley Quinn seems to be doing pretty well.

Edit: For a given value of "recently" of course

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

The new Looney Tunes stuff they made for HBO Max was pretty solid. Dunno how well it did tho.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

McCloud posted:

The DCAU comes to mind, as well as Brave and the Bold. Teen Titans go seems pretty popular, and Harley Quinn seems to be doing pretty well.

Edit: For a given value of "recently" of course

Yeah. Harley Quinn is recent and, although it is hard to tell exactly how popular/successful it is since it is streaming only and doesn't have public numbers, I think counts as successful.

But, the other two examples premiered 9 and 14 years ago. So, not exactly recent.

I don't think there has been a successful animated Looney Tunes series for decades.

Srice posted:

The new Looney Tunes stuff they made for HBO Max was pretty solid.

Was it popular or widely seen? A lot of "good" stuff isn't necessarily "successful" and I didn't even know they had a new Looney Tunes series.

Edit: Considering their move away from streaming exclusive content, has there been a major network or cable animated WB kids show in a while? Cartoon Network and Adult Swim seem to have lost a lot of their pop culture relevance from ~15 years ago when they were huge. There's a lot less successful animated content recently on TV and most of it seems to be aimed at older audiences and/or in syndication.

Fox and Disney seem to have backed away from major new animated content for network TV and prime-time as well. It's mostly The Simpsons continuing on life support.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Aug 5, 2022

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Alexander Hamilton posted:

I’m sorry I mentioned Zach Braff

It's fine, you can blame Zach Braff, he's the one who sucks.

Barry Convex posted:

Eternals isn't nearly as bad as its Rotten Tomatoes score would suggest,

Captain America Civil War isn't as good as it's RT score would suggest either so we'll call it even.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Spacebump posted:

Shark Week and the Property Brothers are going to join the Justice League.

Dear Lord if we could see the KFCxJL crossover in live action

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

The show is very likely dead and I’ve thought so well before this week (two of the leads were cast over a year ago and there’s been almost no news since), but this source isn’t particularly credible afaik

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Zero One posted:

Even with new leadership I bet they still panic and retool yet again when their first movie doesn't do "Endgame" level numbers.

I don't think absolutely anybody will be surprised, either.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
“We are resetting the DC universe”

Presumably by using the exact same characters in the exact same way

Lol

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

This time, it will be planned out from the beginning to be a more synergistic cinematic universe.

This reminds me of how in software everyone's always hankering for a full rewrite to fix the drastic, unforeseen problems resulting from the last rewrite.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Giant Freakin Robot is a fake news source.

A lot of the HBO Max news is pretty predictable and was known beforehand from a combination of actually reading past the headline and not trusting poo poo-stirrers. Unfortunately some content people love got caught in the crossfire, I mourn Joe Pera Talks With You and Made for Love, but people were really willing to believe all the worst rumors immediately for the drama factor.

I really underestimated how upset people would be about Batgirl being cancelled but it appears that being announced a few days ago was just a plan to get the wildest headline out of the way early.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

Zero One posted:

Even with new leadership I bet they still panic and retool yet again when their first movie doesn't do "Endgame" level numbers.

Coming soon to a theater near you

Batman: Starring Robert Downey Jr as Bruce Wayne, Jon Favreau as Alfred, Tom Holland as Robin and Mickey Rourke as Bane

Superman starring Chris Hemsworth as Superman, Natalie Portman as Jimmy Olsen, and Tom Hiddleston as Lex Luther

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It seems weird for the creator of Looney Tunes to dump animated content, but honestly, except for maybe Space Jam have there been any major successful projects from the classic WB animated IPs made recently?
There is a reason that the old WB animation studio was called Termite Terrace. They were always undervalued with the head of the studio at one point thinking that they made Mickey Mouse cartoons. A lot of the decline of WB was them draining money from the studio and half a century before they hosed over Snyder they were firing Chuck loving Jones for moonlighting.

This is all to say that WB has always been a scummy company that spites itself out of ignorance. The precirved prestige and value of Warner animation was a mix of Roger Rabbit, Spielberg, and them taking a chance on Batman: TAS which almost definitely wouldn’t have happened without the success of the Burton films.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I wonder when this "10 year plan" is theoretically supposed to start, because Momoa has an Aquaman movie coming out next year and he'll be like 45 at that point. Cavill is pushing 40 as well, I assume they plan to recast all of the roles?

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