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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
Amy and I have a thing on bitcoin mining in the crash. It turns out to have been a complicated dumbass scheme, not an ordinary dumbass scheme.

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notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Unfortunately Hayess (crypto maximalist) is telling people to buy more crypto because I don't know, smartly worded bad financial analysis?


https://cryptohayes.medium.com/max-bidding-7a1c56c1cd07

notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Aug 5, 2022

drk
Jan 16, 2005
Lol, he just pled guilty to doing financial crimes earlier this year and is still on probation.

I'm not reading that novel of a post, but I assume it boils down to "buy crypto"

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/4/23292066/instagram-nft-mark-zuckerberg-baseball-card-metaverse
Mark Zuckerberg is minting an NFT of his Little League baseball card for some reason
Instagram’s expanded NFT support never hit for the cycle

Other than “turning up the heat a little bit” on Meta employees who shouldn’t be there and hitting the metaverse runway, Mark Zuckerberg is highlighting Instagram’s expanded NFT support. The founder and CEO took the opportunity of announcing expanded NFT support on Instagram to tell everyone he’s turning his 1992 Little League baseball card into an NFT soon.

Why is that important? I couldn’t possibly tell you, but I do know that at age eight, Zuckerberg hit for .920 as a right-handed infielder in Dobbs Ferry, New York. And soon, that information will be backed up with a blockchain entry.

quote:

Zuck: In honor of expanding digital collectible NFTs to 100 more countries on Instagram and launching new integrations with Coinbase and Dapper, I'm sharing my soon-to-be NFT old little league baseball card, which someone recently found and sent to me... 😂 @mcomicconnect has the backstory on my baseball card

Tiax Rules All
Jul 22, 2007
You are but the grease for the wheels of his rule.
So at the end of June, Silvergate Bank had $13.5 billion in customer deposits, $14.5 billion in investments, and $250 million in cash. Assuming a large fraction of their investments consisted of essentially setting their money on fire by lending to Microstrategy and crypto miners and the like, how does this not end really badly? Am I just an idiot who can't read a balance sheet?

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day





LOL!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

lol

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

This is good for Burntcoin.

Khorne
May 1, 2002
This is not how fans work. Or electricity, apparently.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
I'm sure it was only daisy chained a few times with that wholly professional setup

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Zuck looked like a space alien as a kid too, who knew

moroboshi
Dec 11, 2000

Tiax Rules All posted:

So at the end of June, Silvergate Bank had $13.5 billion in customer deposits, $14.5 billion in investments, and $250 million in cash. Assuming a large fraction of their investments consisted of essentially setting their money on fire by lending to Microstrategy and crypto miners and the like, how does this not end really badly? Am I just an idiot who can't read a balance sheet?

VERY briefly scanning over their financials, Loans to Microstrategy should be listed under "Loans" and not "Investments." Investments would be purchasing securities. Also looking at page 55 of their most recent financials they seem to have a lot of liquidity. (i.e. cash to cover themselves if they need to cover loan losses).

I'm not really used to reading bank financials though.

edit: Looks like bitcoin-backed loans are included in the commercial and industrial loans on p46 - about $435 million for the whole loan category. So no telling exactly how much is bitcoin backed, but they probably have cash/equity to cover themselves.

moroboshi fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Aug 5, 2022

END CHEMTRAILS NOW
Apr 16, 2005

Pillbug

Strong Sauce posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/4/23292066/instagram-nft-mark-zuckerberg-baseball-card-metaverse
Mark Zuckerberg is minting an NFT of his Little League baseball card for some reason
Instagram’s expanded NFT support never hit for the cycle
An NFT of Mark Zuckerberg. He's finally solved it: an NFT that no one will ever right-click.

cyberWyrm
Jul 21, 2022

cd-i zelda: good

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

notwithoutmyanus posted:

I'm sure it was only daisy chained a few times with that wholly professional setup

Yeah, bring on them 1mm2 (AWG18) chinese extension cords.

I never get why most of the farms havent proper cabling, not that much more expensive considering GPU prices

HolHorsejob
Mar 14, 2020

Portrait of Cheems II of Spain by Jabona Neftman, olo pint on fird

AutismVaccine posted:

Yeah, bring on them 1mm2 (AWG18) chinese extension cords.

I never get why most of the farms havent proper cabling, not that much more expensive considering GPU prices

Do you really think someone dumb enough to run a bitcoin mining op would be smart enough to spring for decent cabling?

The cheapest cabling is undersized, and the strands are often copper-plated steel. I've bought cheap amazon poo poo and found that the wires were magnetic.

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021
Dear losers, this will be my weekend.















Have fun staying poor.

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.




:sickos:

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





You don’t even need those books. Bitcoin is always for dummies.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
so those look like gamerock 30 series cards, the frosted plastic rgb thing is kind of distinct. i think those only come in high ends ie 3070s and up but i've personally only seen 3090s of it since they're so idiotically marked up. i'm eyeballing and they're clearly fuckin massive so i think they're either 3080s or 3090s?

height of the shortage pricing i would estimate this small 6x rack on the far right:



low estimate around 5-10k of electronics assuming they didn't pay much markup which most miners did, and six total gpus connected to the cheapest power supply i've ever loving seen lmao. i think the thermal "solution" was to herd the hot air up into those lil holes which is the most adorably cartoonish thing i've seen lol. i love this picture.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

I can't believe it either.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

PITY BONER posted:

Dear losers, this will be my weekend.















Have fun staying poor.

You ain't gunna need that last one.

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

You ain't gunna need that last one.

:thejoke:

VileLL
Oct 3, 2015



man looks like a scarecrow for nonces

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

You ain't gunna need that last one.

Might need a sex dummy though.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009


Prostitutes don't accept crypto, dummy.

And have fun becoming poor.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Remember the sex worker who tried to help that hopeless boy with his Bitporn site and his brain could not compute that she was more successful than him and trying to give him advice, which he angrily rejected/ couldn’t understand?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


Yeah this was probably about 50k worth of poo poo at least lol. If not more depending on when they bought them.

50k is a lowball but I’d guess it’s closer to 75k - 100k

small butter
Oct 8, 2011

Professor Shark posted:

Remember the sex worker who tried to help that hopeless boy with his Bitporn site and his brain could not compute that she was more successful than him and trying to give him advice, which he angrily rejected/ couldn’t understand?

Link??

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Professor Shark posted:

Remember the sex worker who tried to help that hopeless boy with his Bitporn site and his brain could not compute that she was more successful than him and trying to give him advice, which he angrily rejected/ couldn’t understand?
I'm pretty sure it was actually some Bitcoiner going to a camgirl forum undercover and trying to sell them on Bitcoin, and being taken to school by people who, it turns out, already had a pretty decent understanding of online commerce.

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

BigBadSteve posted:

Prostitutes don't accept crypto, dummy.

And have fun becoming poor.

A lot of sex workers do actually, or used to. Too small time for authorities to give a poo poo about, especially since most sex work services are legal to begin with, but credit card processors/payment apps basically all discriminate against sex work, so for some people it's the best option. Still dumb though

drk
Jan 16, 2005

The Kins posted:

I'm pretty sure it was actually some Bitcoiner going to a camgirl forum undercover and trying to sell them on Bitcoin, and being taken to school by people who, it turns out, already had a pretty decent understanding of online commerce.

Didn't he also pretend to be a camgirl and immediately give off dude energy to literally everyone

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/08/indie-devs-outraged-by-unlicensed-game-sales-on-gamestops-nft-market/

quote:

Indie devs outraged by unlicensed game sales on GameStop’s NFT market
It may be impossible to remove the games from the IPFS blockchain.

In the first week of GameStop's recently launched NFT marketplace, the NiFTy Arcade collection stood out from the pack. Instead of offering basic JPEGs, the collection provided "interactive NFTs" linked to HTML5 games that were fully playable from an owner's crypto wallet (or from the GameStop Marketplace page itself).
There was only one problem: Many of those NFT games were being minted and sold without their creators' permission, much less any arrangement for the creators to share in any crypto profits.

While the man behind NiFTy Arcade has since been suspended from GameStop's NFT marketplace, he's still holding on to the tens of thousands of dollars in cryptocurrency he made by selling those NFTs before the suspension. And while the NFTs in question are no longer listed on the GameStop NFT marketplace, the unlicensed games themselves can still be accessed on GameStop's servers and across a blockchain-based file storage system, where they may now be functionally impossible to remove.

quote:

Ello ended up selling hundreds of NFTs based on the NiFTy Arcade collection's first three games, making at least 46.7 ETH (worth about $55,000 at the time) from those sales as of July 15. But for at least two of those games—Worm Nom Nom and Galactic Wars—Ello admitted he never sought the necessary permission from the original creators before selling them. There's also evidence that Ello minted and distributed a number of other games through NFT marketplaces without the creators’ permission, including Breakout Hero, Super Disc Box, and Invader Overload, according to Joseph "Lexaloffle" White, the creator of the PICO-8 pixel game engine.

quote:

"This person didn't contact me to ask me anything. He just took my game and sold it," Madrid-based Galactic Wars creator Borja "Volcano Bytes" de Tena told Ars. "If you want to profit from my work, I think you should at least ask."

Only after getting pushback from the creators (and others in the PICO-8 community) did Ello say he "offered 100% of the primary-market (B2C) proceeds from each of the original NFT sales to the original developers of those games." But that kind of after-the-fact profit-sharing offer was pretty insulting to some developers.

"My work was sold for profit without my consent," Warsaw, Poland-based Breakout Hero developer Krystian Majewski told Ars. "Even if somebody wanted to return the money they made off of my work, it would be in the form of some lovely Crypto anyway."

quote:

White said he's "100% focused on getting [unauthorized] games delisted" from GameStop's servers and has filed DMCA takedown requests to that effect with no response thus far. He said he'd also like GameStop to set up some sort of screening process for newly minted NFTs on its marketplace to prevent seemingly irreversible problems like this from happening in the future.

"But that's not going to happen if it isn't legally required," White said. "At the very least, there should be a reliable and painless content takedown process. But in my experience, GameStop isn't even offering that."

Nobody, and I mean nobody, could have seen this coming. At all. Not one bit. Web3 is the future, y'all.

Edit: LOL, Gamestop is going to continue being super lovely and losing money from their NFT space and it's going to own so hard when the company eventually collapses.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
I don't believe that anyone is buying NFTs from gamestop. I cannot believe that as a credible claim.

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

Wow, an NFT made using poo poo the minter didn't actually own? Color me shocked.

Not that I expect things to get to this point, but as I recall, if a judge says the legalese version of "you didn't have the right to do that, take it down," and the minter says "blockchain, I can't," the judge's response would basically be "that sounds like a you problem, figure it out because the poo poo will pile up higher until you get it fixed."

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

It's been proven time and time again that most, if not all, of these supposed decentralized systems have a developer backdoor built in anyway.

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

The Kins posted:

I'm pretty sure it was actually some Bitcoiner going to a camgirl forum undercover and trying to sell them on Bitcoin, and being taken to school by people who, it turns out, already had a pretty decent understanding of online commerce.

there were actually a few "crypto dipshit interacts with sex workers to the amusement and/or horror of everyone watching" stories. turns out that "what if porn, but bitcoin" is a pretty easy idea to come up with

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Salt Fish posted:

I don't believe that anyone is buying from gamestop. I cannot believe that as a credible claim.

KinkyJohn
Sep 19, 2002


I am the millions of RGB lights on millions of xxxtreme gamer gpus in poorly ventilated rooms, spinning and churning out fantastical multicolored light shows that nobody will ever see, illuminating only the fact that we have failed as a species.

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drk
Jan 16, 2005

Salt Fish posted:

I don't believe that anyone is buying NFTs from gamestop. I cannot believe that as a credible claim.

I dont see why there would be any less wash trading on a GME NFT market

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