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madmatt112 posted:was. I wonder why he's not there any more. I'm guessing federal prosecutors don't make $800 an hour plus whatever is being paid under the table for illegal poo poo. Edit: 
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mojo1701a posted:Ahaha holy poo poo the objections! so good
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I am at least a little bit happier when I remember that Jones wanted to settle with them for $120,000.
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bankston absolutely disgusted
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spinst posted:so good my cat is norris posted:bankston absolutely disgusted The phrase "righteous indignation" comes to mind.
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Ob-objection! ...Your honor. jesus christ I feel him, this dude is such a slime Plaintiff counsel gets to respond to this closing statement as well, yeah?
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Ob-objection! ...Your honor. Yeah, they get to go back up there and say, in legal terms, "Gimme a fuckin' break!"
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Aug 5, 2022 17:45
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i just said "bless you" out loud to my computer when that guy sneezed social reflexes are funny
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Was waiting for the objection as son as "Clinton" was said.
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"Everyone in this courtroom feels sympathy for them" is only technically correct because Alex isn't there.
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Aug 5, 2022 17:47
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Decided not to mute. Was right decision. I'm taking this an opportunity to keep learning exactly how not to be a worthless, weaselly, feckless scumbag.
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madmatt112 posted:Decided not to mute. Was right decision. I'm taking this an opportunity to keep learning exactly how not to be a worthless, weaselly, feckless scumbag. Counterpoint: you can make an awful lot of money being a worthless, weaselly, feckless scumbag.
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mojo1701a posted:Counterpoint: you can make an awful lot of money being a worthless, weaselly, feckless scumbag. That's a good point - I'm not imaginative enough to make use of an awful lot of money. In the balance of things, probably not worth it. I'll stay computer-toucher well-off and make off with mooooost of my soul.
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Aug 5, 2022 17:50
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aren't the assets the defendant has completely irrelevant to the amount given to the plaintiff?
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Aug 5, 2022 17:51
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While the US government was wrong to imprison people for being anti-war, you can still be incredibly punished for telling the enemy your nation's secrets.
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Aug 5, 2022 17:52
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ilmucche posted:aren't the assets the defendant has completely irrelevant to the amount given to the plaintiff? Yesterday, when determining compensatory damages, assets are irrelevant. Today is about punitive damages, wherein assets do matter apparently.
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lmao "plaintiffs provided no evidence to the monetary value of FSS" that's your loving job and you only did it by accident! E: and also lied about it, yes
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ilmucche posted:aren't the assets the defendant has completely irrelevant to the amount given to the plaintiff? Defendants' assets are important. Reynal is hinting at their bullshit bankruptcy to try to say they have no assets. The only documents they turned over are the bullshit things they filed in the bankruptcy court, which we know based upon Jones' cell phone are false.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:lmao "plaintiffs provided no evidence to the monetary value of FSS" We live in this bizarro world now where people just get to fling their own poo poo into other people's faces and then immediately mug at a camera and insist 'I didn't fling poo poo, in fact it was somebody else, or, or even the government! Or maybe it was the (insert bigoted identifier here)s! But it wasn't me, even though the videotape shows that it definitely was" and then 25% of the general population goes "Well gently caress those (bigoted identifier)s, this poor schlub is getting thrown under the bus for their poo poo-throwing", and then donates money to him so he can buy more poo poo-generating food and perhaps even build a biofuel-powered poo poo-slinger with exquisitely accurate target acquisition systems.
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your honor, if it pleases the court, get this motherfucker. i rest my case.
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Is there really a point to anything that happens today? Seems like they’ll get nothing because of the cap.
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Elderbean posted:Is there really a point to anything that happens today? Seems like they’ll get nothing because of the cap. not especially
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Stefan Prodan posted:not especially I dunno, it’s doing a good job of getting my blood up
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It was kind of fun to watch the lawyers fighting but yeah, none of this matters much because of the damages cap.
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didn't greg abbot get millions in damages and then immediately sign a bill to cap the amount you can get in damages?
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InsertPotPun posted:didn't greg abbot get millions in damages and then immediately sign a bill to cap the amount you can get in damages? Yup. Pulled the ladder up behind him.
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InsertPotPun posted:did greg abbot get millions in damages and then immediately sign a bill to cap the amount you can get in damages? He championed tort reform from then on and the end result is Texas' exemplary damages cap.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:08
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Aug 5, 2022 18:09
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Mr. Nice! posted:Mostly correct. He had a tree limb fall on him while jogging in the 80s. Rather than go to trial, they settled out of court for what ultimately ended up being around $9m paid out over a period of time. Part of the reason he got a $9m settlement in the 80s was because of the threat of punitive damages. Basically, Abbott got a clear message from god that he chose the wrong path in life, and chose to double down on it.
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Shitbag's objecting because since he wasn't allowed to talk about evidence... No, you were forbidden from mentioning that "the plaintiffs presented no evidence" because you were specifically required to GIVE THEM that evidence, and didn't.
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i missed why they were called up to the bench, what happened?
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my cat is norris posted:i missed why they were called up to the bench, what happened? Reynal objected to counsel saying that "'1/10th of 1%' is meaningless because they wouldn't give us the evidence" if he can't say "they didn't show you any evidence" from his remarks.
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my cat is norris posted:i missed why they were called up to the bench, what happened? Alex's lawyer kept lying about the prosecution not bringing evidence
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aha, thanks! eat poo poo reynal
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Is there an easy way to summarize what we learned about Jones/FSS finances or am I going to have to watch when it's posted later? Only day of this I missed other than jury selection.
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my cat is norris posted:i missed why they were called up to the bench, what happened? Because he was pointing out that they refused to turn over evidence in discovery that they're not allowed to discuss in front of the jury due to orders in limine.
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Tree Dude posted:Is there an easy way to summarize what we learned about Jones/FSS finances or am I going to have to watch when it's posted later? Only day of this I missed other than jury selection. Jones pockets at least 50-60m a year and FSS makes 5m or so more than that which is used for payroll and other expenses. They have had years where they made 150m or more.
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Tree Dude posted:Is there an easy way to summarize what we learned about Jones/FSS finances or am I going to have to watch when it's posted later? Only day of this I missed other than jury selection. I don't think there's much that we learned, other than "they're lying about making very little money because a lot of it flows out to Jones and they're hiding the rest".
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Ooh, Reynal got a sustained objection. That's, what, two today?
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