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nine-gear crow posted:Spoilers for a 60 year old story but *Pike gets a happy...ish ending to that story. It's kind of funny that both of Sarek's kids did mutinies.
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Hellblazer187 posted:It's kind of funny that both of Sarek's kids did mutinies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF65RE2BF9M
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Aug 5, 2022 17:57
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TheCenturion posted:Yeah, that's the other thing to look for: is the party being constantly split into groups of two? I'm trying to imagine how all this will feel in ten, twenty, fifty years time when we're reviewing old media and hit the distinct Covid Complications tone. Will it develop charm? Will it one day be imitated purposefully for comic effect or period setting? Will future trivia listicles mention "didja know? Turns out this little-loved plotline was forced due to restrictions surrounding the Covid Pandemic of 2020!"
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Aug 5, 2022 17:58
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Hellblazer187 posted:both of Sarek's kids which one are you erasing/ forgetting
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Aug 5, 2022 17:59
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The Bloop posted:which one are you erasing/ forgetting Sybok merely inspired a mutiny, he never actually participated in one because unlike Michael and Spock he was never a part of Starfleet 
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Aug 5, 2022 18:01
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I was forgetting Sybok, yeah whoops. Lol.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:10
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Yeah, Sybok was a space pirate, not a mutineer.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:11
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Also kind of funny that "surprise, Spock has a sibling he never told you about!" has been a thing in Star Trek twice.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:38
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Hellblazer187 posted:Also kind of funny that "surprise, Spock has a sibling he never told you about!" has been a thing in Star Trek twice. There's still time for a third, don't put it past them
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Aug 5, 2022 18:39
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The Bloop posted:There's still time for a third, don't put it past them We have a potential 30+ years until we need a new spock actor we can fit more than two new siblings in there. Also, Sarek must be a super weird dude to everyone else in Vulcan.
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Aug 5, 2022 18:44
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The Bloop posted:There's still time for a third, don't put it past them Yeah, Spocko.
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nine-gear crow posted:Okay, Pike shows up at the end of Season 1 to take command of Discovery on a special assignment because "Captain of the USS Discovery" is a position akin to being the drummer from Spinal Tap, they all keep dying or getting erased from the fabric of space time or some poo poo. While trying to solve whatever universe-ending melodrama Discovery has wrapped itself up in this week in Season 2, Pike catches a glimpse of his hosed up future beepy chair self and sees the accident that puts him in the beepy chair, this is why he knows he's bound of death* and when and why it happens and is wrestling with that all throughout SNW Season 1. Spock shows at the end of the season, says "I like science" like a drooling goofus, and then Discovery flies off into the 32nd century to seal the Plot Hole that they cracked open fighting God or some poo poo, I dunno, I don't watch this stupid show, and Spock, Pike and Number One watch it leave from the bridge of the Enterprise and literally go "Let's never speak of this again." Then Strange New Worlds happens. I think, critically, the "previously on" of the Cage indicates continuity with TOS, and there's even mention of Vina (I haven't rewatched those episodes since they've aired though. But other than that this is by far the best summary of STD season 2 I have ever read.
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Aug 5, 2022 19:03
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A.o.D. posted:Yeah, Sybok was a space pirate, not a mutineer. Sybok was the best of Sarek's children, and it's completely in keeping with what an rear end in a top hat Sarek is that he was the one who was shunned while Michael was somehow the golden child and Spock was an afterthought.
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The person in charge of maintaining those records is a descendant of the person responsible for maintaining records of the text messages from the Trump administration.
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T.C. posted:Also, Sarek must be a super weird dude to everyone else in Vulcan. I mean, Sarek is straight up a Humanaboo. Go back and watch Journey to Babel. Every time he tells Amanda to 'attend me,' he's straight up flexing, in his mind at least, on people.
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Aug 5, 2022 19:21
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This is also how it works in the US Navy. Do we ever see any kid of environmental/space suit in any of the 90s era Treks until first contact? I noticed them wearing some in a Voyager episode but they were obviously from FC.
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Everyone posted:I got draw into Discovery by Tig Notaro as Jett Reno, hitting episodes here and there with her in them. I'll probably eventually go back and do a watch from Season 1. I do appreciate that Lower Decks keeps the "Worf-style" Klingons. August 25 can't come soon enough. I need me some Lower Decks. Short of Pike I suppose, I am really having trouble thinking of another character I liked more than Reno. Just perfect. She deserved so much better than that turd sandwich.
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The Bloop posted:There's still time for a third, don't put it past them If they don't do that, they could also invent an illegitimate child or three.
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Aug 5, 2022 20:07
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So, someone want to explain to me what the deal is with the Klingons’ mutation/evolution/redesign between TOS and TNG which they apparently canonized and didn’t just keep as a funny joke in a comedy DS9 episode?
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AlternateNu posted:So, someone want to explain to me what the deal is with the Klingons’ mutation/evolution/redesign between TOS and TNG which they apparently canonized and didn’t just keep as a funny joke in a comedy DS9 episode? Well, the Klingon redesign for The Motion Picture is what they were always supposed to look like, but couldn't do in the sixties for a TV show. The cannon explanation for it on-screen through DS9 was *wink* this is how they always looked, just roll with it. Until Trials and Tribbleations, when it was '...we don't like to talk about it.' Enterprise gave an explanation of 'there was a genetic disease, it got fixed, but as a side effect, it smoothed out the foreheads.' The EU explanation (which Discovery kind of referenced) was that saying 'The Klingons' is kind of like saying 'The Roman Empire.' There's all sorts of subject races, client races, half-breeds ('fusions,' they often call it) with "Imperial Race' Klingons being the Kruuge, Worf, Martok, Gowron kind.
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AlternateNu posted:So, someone want to explain to me what the deal is with the Klingons’ mutation/evolution/redesign between TOS and TNG which they apparently canonized and didn’t just keep as a funny joke in a comedy DS9 episode? As between TOS and TNG Klingons, TNG Klingons are like, what they're supposed to look like. During ENT, some Human Augments hijacked a Klingon ship and the Klingons were like "gently caress these are good warriors, we'll steal some of their DNA." They tried to get Khan superpowers, but they ended up just losing their forehead ridges. Not all Klingons, and not forever. Seems to have worked its way out of the Klingon genome by the time TNG is around. Just ignore DIS Klingons.
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In Discovery, every Klingon got stung by a bee at the same time, which explains why they were all swollen and could barely speak.
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Cojawfee posted:In Discovery, every Klingon got stung by a bee at the same time, which explains why they were all swollen and could barely speak. Worse menace than tribbles, they are
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Hellblazer187 posted:As between TOS and TNG Klingons, TNG Klingons are like, what they're supposed to look like. During ENT, some Human Augments hijacked a Klingon ship and the Klingons were like "gently caress these are good warriors, we'll steal some of their DNA." They tried to get Khan superpowers, but they ended up just losing their forehead ridges. Not all Klingons, and not forever. Seems to have worked its way out of the Klingon genome by the time TNG is around. In Disco they were into surgically making infiltrators, which we see a couple of times also in TOS, so basically they are looking into augmentation, genes or surgical, as a weapon against enemies. Just ignore the BDSM-bat design of Disco, or if you must they officially are "different great house of Klingons which has different aesthetics because they have different agendas going on". That is also the explanation why humans with thick eyebrowns-Klingons for TOS and TAS, mullet-Klingons from TNG/DS9 and those Disco bat-Klingons co-exist. ENT established that the mullet klingons are the original ones, though.
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Nullsmack posted:If they don't do that, they could also invent an illegitimate child or three. Sarek stuck his dick in anything and everything. He is the Walder Frey of Vulcan.
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also weren't Klingons supposed to be from the planet "Kling" at some point? Not sure if this was actually uttered onscreen before Qonos/Kronos, or if I just read it on a like a trading card or "Star Trek Compendium" or somesuch. I assume they got away from that cuz it sounded too much like a silly '60s thing.
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Brawnfire posted:Just watch it so you can join in complaining! Watching it is definitely not a pre-requisite for complaining
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Minidust posted:also weren't Klingons supposed to be from the planet "Kling" at some point? Not sure if this was actually uttered onscreen before Qonos/Kronos, or if I just read it on a like a trading card or "Star Trek Compendium" or somesuch. I assume they got away from that cuz it sounded too much like a silly '60s thing. That was retconned, along with the original Starfleet flag and logo.
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They also spoke "Klingonee" or Klingonese TOS, especially season one, was just making poo poo up left and right and mostly is ehhh for world building details
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Minidust posted:also weren't Klingons supposed to be from the planet "Kling" at some point? Not sure if this was actually uttered onscreen before Qonos/Kronos, or if I just read it on a like a trading card or "Star Trek Compendium" or somesuch. I assume they got away from that cuz it sounded too much like a silly '60s thing. The planet Kling was mentioned once in the first season of TNG - not quite on the level of the weird TOS S1 stuff, but close enough!
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Der Kyhe posted:In Disco they were into surgically making infiltrators, which we see a couple of times also in TOS, so basically they are looking into augmentation, genes or surgical, as a weapon against enemies. It could have been a fashion trend. Like human ladies getting balloon lips because they want lips like Angelina Jolie so they get poo poo injected that looks ridiculous. Other species can have fashions. It is well within their abilities to shave their heads and give themselves ridge enhancements to look "more Klingon".
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You may not like it, but that's what peak performance looks like
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some kinda jackal posted:Short of Pike I suppose, I am really having trouble thinking of another character I liked more than Reno. Just perfect. She deserved so much better than that turd sandwich. I kind of like the Tilly character on Discovery, but I admittedly have kind of weakness for cute/smart/enthusiastic types. I also really like D'Vana Tendi from Lower Decks. I will say I haven't disliked what I've seen of Discovery even without the Reno character. And the 32nd century stuff doesn't really bother me. Most of the time in Star Trek the Federation is threatened with some kind of destruction. And the Fed apparently had a good run and is apparently trying to come back together as compared to the New Republic in Star Wars, which shat the bed and died after barely 30 years of existence.
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Facebook Aunt posted:It could have been a fashion trend. Like human ladies getting balloon lips because they want lips like Angelina Jolie so they get poo poo injected that looks ridiculous. Other species can have fashions. You know what? I can actually agree to this. In the world with 90 day fiance: Stacey and Darcey, that is actually something I can have my peace with. Thank you! 
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You can't explain away Discovery's gigantic internal chasm so easily. I suppose in the 32nd century you could have a couple of 10-C crewmembers floating around in there, but next to other 23rd-century ships it just looks ridiculous.
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Brawnfire posted:You may not like it, but that's what peak performance looks like Are you sure?
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CPColin posted:Are you sure? Me rn reading this: 
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Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In my lane. Focused. Flourishing.
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If you actually look at the discovery klingons they didn't change much with the redesign. The only differences are: 1. different skin tone (so what) 2. lack of hair (so what, klingons can be bald if they want plus metal hair came back in vogue in s2) 3. double nostrils (original design actually already had this, they just turned it up a notch) 4. more fused ears (so what) 5. elongated skull (so what) Things that are the most distinguishing features: 1. forehead ridges Things that did not change: 1. forehead ridges In conclusion: god shut the gently caress up you nerds bltzn fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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