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Digital Jedi posted:It sounded like he did a blanket privllage on either the whole contents or general files wihtout certain specifics that are required to file the claim. https://www.scribd.com/document/585543969/Final-Emergency-Mtn-for-Enforcement-of-P-O There was this. There were medical records of sandy hook parents among all of that, so everything is therefore confidential.
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Tree Dude posted:Same judge for Pozner case ah, the one with the mysterious 160 page dossier on the plaintiff that apparently magically appeared on infowars' shelves one day without anybody's knowledge
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MrMojok posted:I haven’t been keeping up. Did we ever figure out what actually will happen with the cap? So step 1 is yes, step 2 is her plaintiff's attorney intends to argue "nuh-uh" and that the cap is unconstitutional, including before the supreme courts of Texas and the US, step 3 is that it probably won't work but should keep alex sweating slightly more than usual for a while.
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ilmucche posted:did the judge really just say they did really well?? They managed to somehow navigate it to a verdict without a mistrial or the courtroom becoming a circus full of infowarriors and media. I'd say that's cause for a GG
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KitConstantine posted:Professionalism. She says anything else on the record and it could get brought up during appeal. oh right, i thought this was in the off the record part
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MrMojok posted:I haven’t been keeping up. Did we ever figure out what actually will happen with the cap? Sandy Hook lawyer is going to appeal it, but that's picking a fight with Texas legislature (which gleefully passed the cap in the first place) and ultimately the US Supreme Court if he appeals long enough (which... you know). Hopefully it'll draw some attention but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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ilmucche posted:did the judge really just say they did really well?? If you watch, she's specifically looking at one side of the room when she says that. She does not make eye contact with anyone on the other side. Make of that what you will.
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Aug 5, 2022 23:08
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Does this mean that there will not be additional sanctions?
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:Does this mean that there will not be additional sanctions? There will be, the motions will be heard at a separate hearing before the same judge - they haven't been filed yet because they couldn't be filed until this trial was over
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Piell posted:Reynal (Alex's laywer) claimed that he didn't know about the accidental disclosure of documents until Alex was on the stand a couple days ago. Judge said "that's not true, you gave me the email that shows they told you 14 days ago" Oh. LM and I can't stress this enough AO
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One thing I hadn't thought of re: the punitive cap, and I don't know the answer for certain. The penalties are assigned per defendant, but it doesn't really make clear if the cap is per case or per defendant. If each individual plaintiff gets the cap from each defendant, that's an extra $1.5m per.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:Does this mean that there will not be additional sanctions? No, Banktson mentioned three specific issues that he would moving for sanctions on. https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1555674279861227524 Those two and a third one where it was determined that Alex Jones and Free Speech Systems were determined to be basically the same thing and Reynal said stuff about how they were different.
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Aug 5, 2022 23:11
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MrMojok posted:I haven’t been keeping up. Did we ever figure out what actually will happen with the cap? They're going to be arguing about that for months if not years
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And this cap thing is basically the result of Greg Abbott pulling up the ladder after he got his big payday?
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MrMojok posted:I haven’t been keeping up. Did we ever figure out what actually will happen with the cap? The only question with the cap is if it applies per defendant/per plaintiff or per case. it will be reduced, though. bankston wants to fight the state on the cap, but he probably won't win.
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MrMojok posted:And this cap thing is basically the result of Greg Abbott pulling up the ladder after he got his big payday? Although his $9m in 84 was the result of a settlement, it would not have been that large but for the threat of punitive damages.
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So how does the purgery work? Can he be fined $50m just for lying to the court a few times a minute for days at a time?
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MrMojok posted:And this cap thing is basically the result of Greg Abbott pulling up the ladder after he got his big payday?
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:There are many states with punitive damage award caps. Greg Abbott still sucks though
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TaurusTorus posted:Greg Abbott sucks Really don’t need any qualifiers on it. He’s a horrible human being
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If Texas found Jones liable for 45 million (even if he is only going to end up paying 6 mil), imo it’s good sign that he will get hosed hard in ct.
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Ringo Roadagain posted:If Texas found Jones liable for 45 million (even if he is only going to end up paying 6 mil), imo it’s good sign that he will get hosed hard in ct. True. I assume the lawyers in CT will be getting a copy of that phone backup as well.
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MrMojok posted:True. I assume the lawyers in CT will be getting a copy of that phone backup as well. Oh absolutely.
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https://www.texmed.org/TexasMedicineDetail.aspx?id=58464 Interestingly, it appears the SH parents have an extremely valid constitutional claim. Specifically, a jury under their 7th amendment rights has awarded them 45 million dollars. Abbott's stupid bullshit shouldnt really stand
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Aug 5, 2022 23:32
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What is the justification for a cap? Seems kind of arbitrary for it to be a universal number.
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I missed the verdict but saw they award 45 million, has the sanctions stuff went through yet?
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Rinkles posted:What is the justification for a cap? Seems kind of arbitrary for it to be a universal number. because a reactionary legislature felt like it
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Hollismason posted:I missed the verdict but saw they award 45 million, has the sanctions stuff went through yet? Bankston proposed a couple sanctions and it'll be handled in a followup that couldn't start until this case concluded
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Aug 5, 2022 23:37
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Is there a punitive damages cap in CT?
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Rinkles posted:What is the justification for a cap? Seems kind of arbitrary for it to be a universal number. The justification for tort reform is essentially “health/auto insurance is so high because of mcdonalds coffee judgments so by limiting the occurrence of those we can reduce healthcare and auto costs.” However it doesn’t actually do that because large judgments aren’t the cause of high prices in those markets.
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Hollismason posted:Is there a punitive damages cap in CT? Yes. They’re going to push harder for non-punitive damages in other cases would be my guess.
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Whats the cap in CT?
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Don't forget the moral hazard of lazy people being rewarded just because of the deliberate conduct of the capitalist class.
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A cursory google research tells me that punitive damages in CT are limited to lawyers fees.
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I’d like to get a temperature check to delay finishing this awful drink I made. There’s another trial (Pozner/de la Rosa, Noah Pozner’s parents vs Alex Jones, same judge). I’m down to keep the thread open during the downtime, or would you all want me to close it until then? I’ll reopen it when the trial starts, regardless if it’s being streamed, regardless if it’s different lawyers. Either or, I just want to know how y’all feel
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teen witch posted:I’d like to get a temperature check to delay finishing this awful drink I made. Might be good to keep it open so we can laugh at Alex's impending public response.
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teen witch posted:I’d like to get a temperature check to delay finishing this awful drink I made. I think the thread should stay open at least until we find out what all was on Alex's hard drive Also this could be the general Alex Jones is a idiot thread
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Sanctions hearings are immediately impending so at least keep it open till then. Personally I think it's also useful folding in Ongoing Onedrive Shenanigans.
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Don't worry guys Alex will cover the cost from his "A Scanner Darkly" royalties.
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