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HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

This is actually good for me personally who wanted to drop cable and already paid for HBO Max

oh wait they're just going to drop all the content.

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:39

AvesPKS: Sep 26, 2004; I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.

Where da movies at?

# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:13

DeathSandwich: Apr 24, 2008; I fucking hate puzzles.

I only really hosed with HBO and Netflix, but I've not really used either of them in months and basically just kept it up for my mom. Given how both have been the last couple months I think it's time to close them both out.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:16

Professor Beetus: Apr 12, 2007; They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

I'm guessing Peacemaker and OFMD will get one more season each, unless OFMD ends up getting cancelled while season 2 is in pre-production. It might be safe as a Taika Waititi joint though. Probably can say goodbye to The Flight Attendant and Harley Quinn, so Kaley Cuoco will be looking for work soon I guess. Although they claim that DC will remain a cornerstone, they've already shelved and written off a 90 million dollar high profile DC movie. Doom Patrol is almost certainly a goner. Titans could go either way imo, I think we might see another season with lots of non-powered fights in empty warehouses before it's gone. I'm guessing documentaries and Last Week Tonight and :barf:

Bill Maher are safe as they are much cheaper, relatively speaking, to produce.

Anyway :toxx:

that much of this stuff will be true in about a year if not sooner.

e: My one wish is that someone with an axe to grind releases Batgirl, because robbing us of another movie featuring Michael Keaton as old man Batman should be considered an act of criminal negligence.

e2: Maybe we'll get one more season of The Flight Attendant in which she ends up not going anywhere because flights keep getting cancelled and it turns into an airport comedy series like Wings.

Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Aug 5, 2022

# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:17

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Its sad because HBO actually had good content and came free with our internet, but oh well. Time to dust off the pirate cap and raise the colors.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:18

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Going over my situation now that I think about it and Curiosity Stream and Spotify will probably survive because the former is cheap and has interesting stuff and the latter is a fee I'm happy to pay to not hear ads for my workout playlist now that my ancient iPod Shuffle has died and I am forced to use my phone

# ? Aug 5, 2022 17:25

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

I just download podcast MP3 to my phone to listen to.

Streaming services? Currently I just have Amazon Prime because it's not necessarily too expensive and I get free shipping for a few things when I need something once in a while, and good rates on Kindle stuff. I was thinking of going on Netflix later in the year to marathon Stranger Things, maybe the new Sandman show, and some other stuff, so like maybe for a month or two before canceling again.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 18:00

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

About a decade ago a Prime and Netflix sub was enough for me to give up :filez:

completely but the industry has spent their time since conclusively pounding things into the dirt

# ? Aug 5, 2022 19:35

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Professor Beetus posted:

Unfortunately it's just numbers baby. Discovery is still available to basically anyone with a cable sub which is still a distressingly large number (streaming balkanization has undoubtedly help stop people from making the switch or driven them back to cable). Ad revenues on cable are still extremely lucrative. And most importantly, cheap lovely reality TV is way cheaper to churn out constantly than the scripted stuff HBO primarily produces. (I mean really lol, those people on home makeover shows and poo poo don't even typically get their projects bankrolled lmao). I'm not sure how successful a show has to be on HBO for Discovery execs to keep producing, but I think the recent news is proof enough that it's going to be an extremely high bar to clear. And of course critical acclaim doesn't necessarily mean something is commercially successful.

There's a reality show about people who rent yachts that I wasn't even aware of, that is more popular than every single good show on HBO max.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 20:08

Mischievous Mink: May 29, 2012

HBO Max cancelled Raised by Wolves, so they're dead in my book anyway.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 21:19

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Thanks Ants posted:

About a decade ago a Prime and Netflix sub was enough for me to give up completely but the industry has spent their time since conclusively pounding things into the dirt

Same. And now we're heading into "maybe we'll add commercials" and crack down on password sharing while delivering less and less content. The loving free market, the advertising that drives it and all the unnecessary tech that gets slapped onto everything bleeds the life out of loving everything I swear to god. So much of technology is absolutely amazing and so much of it gets ruined by trying to squeeze every god damned dime out of anything positive it has to offer.

I overheard a conversation at work the other day involving 4 or 5 folks that have bought cars recently and they were taking turns bitching about how the computer poo poo in their new vehicles kept loving up and rendering their vehicles inoperable. poo poo like "fuel saving mode" and stuff like that. I didn't catch all of it but, to a man, it was all about a CPU loving up and making their cars do everything except actually starting, shifting gears or opening a door.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 22:34

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

Though most of the focus on irresponsible, terrible, or downright awful internet moderation policies in social media sites focuses on how they treat stuff that's posted, it seems like Tiktok (or the contractors they outsource moderation out to) may be breaking new ground on how they treat their own moderators.

It seems that someone involved in overseeing the moderators (neither Tiktok nor their contractors have clearly admitted to being the ones responsible) had the bright idea of keeping a stockpile of rule-breaking materials removed from the site, and showing that stockpile to new moderators as an example of what kinds of things qualify as breaking various rules.

Apparently, no one stopped to think about the ethics, legality, or loving anything before they decided to keep a stash of child pornography around to train new hires on what was and wasn't acceptable.

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1555550458487390221

quote:

Nasser expected to be confronted with some disturbing material during his training to become a content moderator for TikTok. But he was shocked when he and others in his class were shown uncensored, sexually explicit images of children.

Nasser, who was working for a third-party company, Teleperformance, that moderates content for the social media giant, had been assigned to a special project: teaching TikTok�s AI to spot the worst of the worst posted in the app. Just a few days into onboarding, he and his colleagues were shown graphic images and videos of children involved in sexual acts�all material that had been removed from TikTok.

�I have a daughter, and I don't think it's right�just a bunch of strangers watching this,� Nasser, who left Teleperformance in 2020, told Forbes. �I don't think they should use something like that for training.� (His last name, and some others in this story, have been omitted for privacy reasons.)

Whitney Turner, who worked for Teleperformance�s TikTok program in El Paso for over a year and departed in 2021, also recalled being shown sexually exploitative imagery of kids as part of her training. Whitney was given access to a shared spreadsheet that she and other former employees told Forbes is filled with material determined to be violative of TikTok�s community guidelines, including hundreds of images of children who were naked or being abused. Former moderators said the document, called the �DRR,� short for Daily Required Reading, was widely accessible to employees at Teleperformance and TikTok as recently as this summer. While some moderators working in unrelated functions were restricted from viewing this material, sources told Forbes that hundreds of people across both companies had free access to the document. The DRR and other training materials were stored in Lark, internal workplace software developed by TikTok�s China-based parent company, ByteDance.

Whitney was so aghast at the casual handling of the material that she reported it to the FBI, and subsequently met with an agent in June. The FBI did not respond to multiple requests for comment on whether it will investigate the matter.

...

The so-called �DRR� is one of several files that TikTok moderators have used as a resource on the job. (Neither TikTok nor Teleperformance would confirm whether it�s still live today, but three former moderators who left this past May, June and July said the DRR was in use when they departed.)

Angel and other former staffers described the DRR as a spreadsheet filled with examples of violative content that had been removed from TikTok. Moderators said they were instructed to refer back to it for guidance on how to �tag� which policies that material violated. The spreadsheet had various tabs for different kinds of content�one related to terrorist organizations, another on nudity, for example. Child sexual abuse material was also given its own, designated tab, Angel said.

Whitney estimated that pictures, videos and descriptions of child sexual abuse made up about a quarter of the spreadsheet, which contained thousands of examples of violative material. She believed that the DRR dated back to when TikTok first brought on Teleperformance. Marjorie Dillow, who until May worked as a moderator for another Teleperformance hub in Boise, Idaho, left with a similar impression. �They don't really delete anything off of that DRR,� she said.

Provided with all of this information, TikTok told Forbes it did not have enough details to confirm the existence of the DRR or answer a list of questions about it. Teleperformance also declined to answer a list of queries about the document. Neither would say how many people and companies have access to it�given it lives on ByteDance�s Lark software, and ByteDance has had access to U.S. TikTok data in the past�or what company controls access to the material. They also would not say how far back the examples of child sexual abuse material on the DRR go, and what if any process there might be for purging it 90 days after reporting it, as law enforcement requires.

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Former moderator AnaSofia Lerma told Forbes that despite being shown a sexual video of a child during training, she never encountered such material while on the job. She wondered why she�d been required to view it in the first place.

�I don't think it was necessary at all,� said Lerma, who worked at Teleperformance in 2020. �If someone else uploads it, they should just take it down and just erase it from existence. � I did wonder, �Why are they saving these videos?��

�Honestly,� she added, �I had to take a few minutes off.�

Whitney from the El Paso office said she jumped at the opportunity to earn $18.50 an hour at Teleperformance�an upgrade from a past hourly wage of $16 working for a company that renovates Walmarts. A recruiter told Whitney she�d be like �a police officer for TikTok,� and the prospect of protecting people excited her.

But after spending just over a year at Teleperformance, �I have been struggling to just function properly,� Whitney said. She frequently loses her train of thought, becomes filled with rage at random and has feelings of suicide.

Nasser, a veteran with combat-related PTSD, has struggled, too, having found some of his experiences at Teleperformance to be more challenging than his time with the U.S. Army. As for the graphic videos of children he was forced to watch to land the job, he said, �Just talking about it, mentioning it alone, would be sufficient.�

�I know what we saw, and it was pretty hosed up,� he told Forbes. �We shouldn't have had to see any of that stuff."

I don't really know what to say here, other than that social media was a loving mistake.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 23:41

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

While HBO Max still exists I would recommend doing a deep dive on things you want to watch alphabetically if you can, it's easily the deepest library of any streaming service.

# ? Aug 5, 2022 23:58

BlueBlazer: Apr 1, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

Though most of the focus on irresponsible, terrible, or downright awful internet moderation policies in social media sites focuses on how they treat stuff that's posted, it seems like Tiktok (or the contractors they outsource moderation out to) may be breaking new ground on how they treat their own moderators.

It seems that someone involved in overseeing the moderators (neither Tiktok nor their contractors have clearly admitted to being the ones responsible) had the bright idea of keeping a stockpile of rule-breaking materials removed from the site, and showing that stockpile to new moderators as an example of what kinds of things qualify as breaking various rules.

Apparently, no one stopped to think about the ethics, legality, or loving anything before they decided to keep a stash of child pornography around to train new hires on what was and wasn't acceptable.

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1555550458487390221

I don't really know what to say here, other than that social media was a loving mistake.

But what if we just stopped?

Nah, number machine cant be stopped. Only BRRRRRR

# ? Aug 6, 2022 00:13

Neito: Feb 18, 2009; 😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Professor Beetus posted:

(streaming balkanization has undoubtedly help stop people from making the switch or driven them back to cable).

I'm definitely one. it's easier to just get a Plex server, an HD Homerun, and a cable card, and figure it out from there than pay for the 20 different streaming services I'd want.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 00:29

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

imo pirarats should just try poaching oldschool media programming schedual peeps and just form their own pirate networks of popular stuff.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 05:27

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

https://twitter.com/blakersdozen/status/1555539306734927873?s=20&t=vixVRArW9meRb7J6P2MGRA

# ? Aug 6, 2022 13:39

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Relatively minor gripe I guess and not really a nightmare but I really really hate auto loaded video when I visit a web page. Just put the video there and give me the option to view it if I feel like it.

Also, I don't have an adblocker on my phone and on the rare occasions I surf the web on it I'm astonished at the number of ads amount of bullshit I encounter. How does anyone navigate the internet without some semblance of an ad blocker? Trying to imagine this experience on a laptop cpu.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 14:13

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

pretty sure there's a browser setting to make turn off auto play, and also have auto mute so even if it does play its muted.

also this might be a matrix cave wall of shadows thing, maybe normal / non ad blocking people just assume andor accept that half their screen space is bullshit.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 14:31

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

PhazonLink posted:

pretty sure there's a browser setting to make turn off auto play, and also have auto mute so even if it does play its muted.

also this might be a matrix cave wall of shadows thing, maybe normal / non ad blocking people just assume andor accept that half their screen space is bullshit.

Yeah it�s a bit of a pain when I have to do it, but you get used to it, more or less.

And, frankly, targeted advertising has sometimes led me to buy things that I want and like, so it�s not the worst thing in the world. You want to show me a sale price on that new guitar I�ve had my eye on? Go right ahead!

# ? Aug 6, 2022 15:09

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

BiggerBoat posted:

Relatively minor gripe I guess and not really a nightmare but I really really hate auto loaded video when I visit a web page. Just put the video there and give me the option to view it if I feel like it.

Also, I don't have an adblocker on my phone and on the rare occasions I surf the web on it I'm astonished at the number of ads amount of bullshit I encounter. How does anyone navigate the internet without some semblance of an ad blocker? Trying to imagine this experience on a laptop cpu.

It's just unusable on some websites and it's ridiculous. Chrome on Android not having support for extensions has to have been intentional.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 18:06

Neito: Feb 18, 2009; 😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Star Man posted:

It's just unusable on some websites and it's ridiculous. Chrome on Android not having support for extensions has to have been intentional.

Considering how they're trying to nerf adblockers on desktop, yes.

Originally they didn't even want extensions on desktop Chrome; they only did it because people wouldn't move from Firefox without them.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 18:13

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

BiggerBoat posted:

Relatively minor gripe I guess and not really a nightmare but I really really hate auto loaded video when I visit a web page. Just put the video there and give me the option to view it if I feel like it.

On the other hand, have you considered that this is a plausible excuse to force play advertisements and thus take in much more ad money than banner ads? You don't... want the ads? Why would you not enjoy us bringing you this great opportunity to learn of products and services, a thing that you enjoy so much that you have to be tricked into doing it and we have to pay others to do that tricking at every possible place you would be?

# ? Aug 6, 2022 18:31

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

PhazonLink posted:

pretty sure there's a browser setting to make turn off auto play, and also have auto mute so even if it does play its muted.

also this might be a matrix cave wall of shadows thing, maybe normal / non ad blocking people just assume andor accept that half their screen space is bullshit.

Where?

The only thing on Chrome settings that looks like it might even come close appears to be specific for each individual website and even then I'm not sure. Trouble with some of these blockers and poo poo is that on a few occasions, they've rendered certain sites I need to navigate basically inoperable and it took me a good minute to figure out why.

Specifically, the IRS, DMV and UEI websites I've had to use, which are all rather important.

This is all because nobody can cross the loving street or tie their god damned shoes without having watching to watch an ad Maybe it's always been this way. I remember the old radio and TV shows being inundated with sponsors but we're up against real Idiocracy levels of it now. I hate those loving gas pumps that scream at me to buy fountain drinks and hot dogs when I fill up my tank.

# ? Aug 6, 2022 19:04

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

BiggerBoat posted:

Where?

The only thing on Chrome settings that looks like it might even come close appears to be specific for each individual website and even then I'm not sure. Trouble with some of these blockers and poo poo is that on a few occasions, they've rendered certain sites I need to navigate basically inoperable and it took me a good minute to figure out why.

Specifically, the IRS, DMV and UEI websites I've had to use, which are all rather important.

This is all because nobody can cross the loving street or tie their god damned shoes without having watching to watch an ad Maybe it's always been this way. I remember the old radio and TV shows being inundated with sponsors but we're up against real Idiocracy levels of it now. I hate those loving gas pumps that scream at me to buy fountain drinks and hot dogs when I fill up my tank.

But without the gas pumps shouting, how will you know to buy an EXTRA BIG rear end FRIES?!

Seriously though, I've never seen that. The worst we have is like "would you like a car wash? no? oh, you're making the car wash sad, but okay then..."

# ? Aug 7, 2022 01:53

Hobnob: Feb 23, 2006; Ursa Adorandum

PT6A posted:

But without the gas pumps shouting, how will you know to buy an EXTRA BIG rear end FRIES?!

Seriously though, I've never seen that. The worst we have is like "would you like a car wash? no? oh, you're making the car wash sad, but okay then..."

Yeah I think it's Circle-K that are the worst offenders on that front around here. They have screens blaring "GSTV" (http://gstv.com) all the time, and I swear they've slowed down the pump rate a bit so you're standing around them longer.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:10

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

Hobnob posted:

Yeah I think it's Circle-K that are the worst offenders on that front around here. They have screens blaring "GSTV" (http://gstv.com) all the time, and I swear they've slowed down the pump rate a bit so you're standing around them longer.

I have noticed that the pump speed when using your card is slower than when you pay cash.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:19

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Detective No. 27 posted:

I have noticed that the pump speed when using your card is slower than when you pay cash.

Please test this and make a YouTube video if you can confirm it

# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:26

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

Will you fund my research? I'll need $1500. ($40 for gas + whatever the eventual highest tier iPhone 14 will cost.)

# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:30

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Yet another reason I remain smug about full service gas being mandatory in my state.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 02:46

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

Dept of Weights and Measures : "Well theyre still getting the volume you paid for, and nothing in Da Rule Book about a dog pumping gas or giving it in a timely manner."

*the flood gates for min long ads opens*

# ? Aug 7, 2022 03:29

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

I take the bus everywhere, so depending on how you look at it pumping gas takes me either zero or infinite seconds

# ? Aug 7, 2022 11:31

Tuxedo Gin: May 21, 2003; Classy.

Volmarias posted:

Yet another reason I remain smug about full service gas being mandatory in my state.

Can't believe none of the companies have realize that they can force their poor workers to recite 5-10 minutes of upsell and marketing spiels like my oil change place.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 12:07

SerthVarnee: Mar 13, 2011; It has been ~~two~~ zero days since last incident.; Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Tuxedo Gin posted:

Can't believe none of the companies have realize that they can force their poor workers to recite 5-10 minutes of upsell and marketing spiels like my oil change place.

You need to shut the gently caress up right the goddamn gently caress now before they grab onto your sick idea.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 12:47

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Tuxedo Gin posted:

Can't believe none of the companies have realize that they can force their poor workers to recite 5-10 minutes of upsell and marketing spiels like my oil change place.

When best buy/gamestop buys a gas station

# ? Aug 7, 2022 15:11

Blue Footed Booby: Oct 4, 2006; got those happy feet

PT6A posted:

But without the gas pumps shouting, how will you know to buy an EXTRA BIG rear end FRIES?!

Seriously though, I've never seen that. The worst we have is like "would you like a car wash? no? oh, you're making the car wash sad, but okay then..."

All the pumps I've interacted with so far that show video ads can be silenced with one of the buttons next to the screen. Just press all of them into either the sound stops or the pump blasts off or whatever.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 15:46

PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

that's engaging and a positive metric.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 15:56

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

Mister Facetious posted:

When best buy/gamestop buys a gas station

.I would strongly suggest the extended warranty to go along with your refill, sir/madam. It's just $14.99/year for peace of mind, and you get access to our premium technical support hotline.

# ? Aug 7, 2022 16:15

Old Surly: Dec 8, 2004; and all of your troubles are solved and gone

Hobnob posted:

Yeah I think it's Circle-K that are the worst offenders on that front around here. They have screens blaring "GSTV" (http://gstv.com) all the time, and I swear they've slowed down the pump rate a bit so you're standing around them longer.

Press the unmarked buttons on the side of the screen until is mutes the audio. Almost all of the pump screens have a mute button.

Efb

# ? Aug 7, 2022 17:01

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:39

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

PT6A posted:

But without the gas pumps shouting, how will you know to buy an EXTRA BIG rear end FRIES?!

Seriously though, I've never seen that. The worst we have is like "would you like a car wash? no? oh, you're making the car wash sad, but okay then..."

Yeah, no. Here where I live we have to go through that too

* rewards member?
* Car wash?

But then it's a really loud commercial about hot dogs and soft drinks the size of a paper towel roll. There's not a mute button that I'm aware of but I'll look next time. Seems like a simple matter of time before they sell that ad space to politicians, realtors, car dealerships and what not. Getting some real Blade Runner, Minority Report, Idiocracy vibes the older I get and it's making me really feel my age.

Also, the store up the street from me is putting in those dumb rear end TV screen cooler windows that I have a super sized bug up my rear end about.

...

As a bit of an aside, my new job has all of our "team members" on a WhatsApp message board so now, in addition to the scores of emails and texts I get every day, I have to monitor that poo poo when I'm off the clock. gently caress that. If you pay me by the hour, whenever I'm not clocked in, leave me alone but I know that ship has sailed. All it really is so far is people messaging that they're stuck in traffic, calling out sick or WORSE, posting "funny" images and emojis, which IMO should be banned. I don;t need to read 43 new messages every day from my coworkers who are having car trouble.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 7, 2022

# ? Aug 7, 2022 17:07

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