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Here's a video with Gameplay for each character in the ZZZ beta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7E2O_r0VQ And here's one with most of the skill/talent descriptions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_GDS_g2N00 Although they didn't scroll far enough and missed part of Aokaku's stuff:  . I think there's more besides this tooA rundown of each character's special mechanics:
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Definitely can't manage more than one powerful enemy just barely defeated before the time limit on Dire Straits mode challenges, but good thing the reward is complete crap bragging rights stuff anyway so it hardly matters. Am I hearing things or does Miyabi the cat eared Hime Cut/Red Eyes combo Samurai character sound like Raiden Shogun/Mei's JP VA aka Miyuki Sawashiro? Kale fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Kale posted:Definitely can't manage more than one powerful enemy just barely defeated before the time limit on Dire Straits mode challenges, but good thing the reward is complete crap bragging rights stuff anyway so it hardly matters. Nah she sounds pretty different to my ear. Doing a similar kind of voice, but a different voice actress.
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This ZZZ thing actually helped me decide whether I should pull for Ganyu or not. Seeing it made me realize that I actually don't really care about combat all that much lol It IS a shame that the exploration focus limits character designs/models the way it does, but everyones already heard that before so whatever.
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Tarezax posted:Nah she sounds pretty different to my ear. Doing a similar kind of voice, but a different voice actress. Yeah I'm not entirely convinced either, but I'm not the only one hearing it on certain lines like when you select her in the character select screen. It almost seems like they've been deliberately trying to keep that character under wraps for a big reveal since that character didn't even have a name as far as I'm aware until today, looks like the "cool" one and could potentially maybe be the Mei-alike for the game. Not convinced either way until I see an official character post CV announcement though.
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Have large geo slimes always had their shields broken by geo? I'm used to unleashing all my skills and bursts to kill a single large geo slime because that's usually what it takes. They're immune to geo so I had assumed that you can't use geo to break a geo shield in the same way that other elemental shields work.  Still seemed less annoying than immortal dendro slimes
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Sanctum posted:Have large geo slimes always had their shields broken by geo? I'm used to unleashing all my skills and bursts to kill a single large geo slime because that's usually what it takes. They're immune to geo so I had assumed that you can't use geo to break a geo shield in the same way that other elemental shields work. Yes. Geo has always been good at breaking geo shields, but obviously cannot damage geo-immune enemies. It creates a situation where you kinda want a geo character to break shields and then swap to someone else to do the damage. Or just use a claymore.
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Sanctum posted:Have large geo slimes always had their shields broken by geo? I'm used to unleashing all my skills and bursts to kill a single large geo slime because that's usually what it takes. They're immune to geo so I had assumed that you can't use geo to break a geo shield in the same way that other elemental shields work. Geo shields are broken by the undocumented "smash type" of damage, the same kind the breaks rocks. Claymore work, and many geo attacks also work, but not all - if you charge Gorou's arrow, for example, it doesn't have big smashing properties.
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Nyoro posted:Have we seen gameplay of Honkai Star Rail yet, incidentally? It's had like 2 cbts already here's a random video I haven't watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKBgu4pz9a8 It has nice graphics but the gameplay is typical turn-based autobattle-fodder mobile game, unlike the "wow a gacha game with actual gameplay!" stuff Mihoyo is known for. Each character has just 1 basic attack + 1 active skill and an ultimate that occasionally charges up, which is super simplistic for a turn-based game. Sanctum posted:Have large geo slimes always had their shields broken by geo? I'm used to unleashing all my skills and bursts to kill a single large geo slime because that's usually what it takes. They're immune to geo so I had assumed that you can't use geo to break a geo shield in the same way that other elemental shields work. In addition to geo and claymores they're also quite vulnerable to overload reactions.
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Glazius posted:Geo shields are broken by the undocumented "smash type" of damage, the same kind the breaks rocks. Claymore work, and many geo attacks also work, but not all - if you charge Gorou's arrow, for example, it doesn't have big smashing properties. They are also broken by overload and Klee. Sidenote: you can't proc overload on ore though the overload splash damage from nearby reactions will still break them.
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Nyoro posted:Have we seen gameplay of Honkai Star Rail yet, incidentally? Yeah that one's more of a turn based affair by the looks of it. It looks like the entire prologue or something akin to that was uploaded as there's a big boss fight with Cocolia at the end of it where she turns into a pseudo-Herscherr looking form and it looks like this universes version of Bronya and Seele maybe rebel against her. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbW7vKw8X8-B6M6jOnGbo0CIMsCB3tIFm This guy has his whole CBT2 Story playthrough uploaded, but it's divided into 8 parts and it's loving long as poo poo since he spends a lot of time reacting to stuff and interacting with his stream chat and what not. Talking like 2-4 hours average per segment, for what amounts to a beta test and probably prologue to the game. Some things clearly never change with Mihoyo. I've been meaning to sort of have a look at it since the guy's personality is cordial enough if his tendency to stop what he's doing for 10 minutes at a time to do "reactions" can be a bit much, but it's just so loving much footage to try to sort through. Kale fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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Oh boy a brand new survey where we can all complain about the star puzzles
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Nyoro posted:Oh boy a brand new survey where we can all complain about the star puzzles Do we need to do that? I never found them obtuse since they all came down to making the indicated constellation only the how changed.
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Pope Urbane II posted:They are also broken by overload and Klee. Sidenote: you can't proc overload on ore though the overload splash damage from nearby reactions will still break them. Yanfei's charged attack is also another attack that can break rocks. As can Chongyun's ult. Zhongli's hold skill is the best at doing it, followed by Razor's hold skill. It's kinda all over the place which special attacks effect rocks or not.
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MadHat posted:Do we need to do that? I never found them obtuse since they all came down to making the indicated constellation only the how changed. And then there were the other star puzzles, where you had to match a constellation by moving stars through a questionable number of states by walking over a button repeatedly. And the ones where you light up a constellation and it's probably from top to bottom, except when it's not. And the ones you apparently can't see if your graphic settings were too low. There are a lot of different star puzzles, and they almost all have some sort of nonsense or jank to them. Pope Urbane II posted:They are also broken by overload and Klee. Sidenote: you can't proc overload on ore though the overload splash damage from nearby reactions will still break them. Except the electro ones, which can only be broken by overload.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Each character has just 1 basic attack + 1 active skill and an ultimate that occasionally charges up, which is super simplistic for a turn-based game. Guy who has only ever played Genshin Impact: Huh, sounds like Genshin Impact's controls to me Game looks really nice though! The enemies look cool, the characters are super expressive, it's Sci-Fi too- which oh my god, how many of those are even coming out anymore?-
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Zenostein posted:And then there were the other star puzzles, where you had to match a constellation by moving stars through a questionable number of states by walking over a button repeatedly. And the ones where you light up a constellation and it's probably from top to bottom, except when it's not. And the ones you apparently can't see if your graphic settings were too low. ? Those are all still just match the constellation,. granted the water reflection graphics issue sucks.
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Based on everything I've seen from ZZZ so far and with maybe a fraction of proper context it looks like there's a lot of really rad and hip youthful counter culture stuff going on with it's whole vibe. The man appears to be getting fought against needless to say.
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MadHat posted:? Those are all still just match the constellation,. granted the water reflection graphics issue sucks. Yeah, but they're more obtuse than "just turn the thing so it makes a star." Mostly because you have to gently caress around with them to sort out what button does what. They're ultimately fine, but that's once you find the thing you're meant to match and figure out how to work the thing, because like most of mona's island your directions are "lmao just solve the puzzle, dipshit." Star rail looks kinda nice, I like turn based rpgs where you don't have to dig through menus for skills. Seems like it would work out pretty nicely on a phone, too. Until all the fancy graphics melt away your batteyr, at least.
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Getting >500 points on this event is awful, because if a single person drops down at the end before you can collect the coins, they ruin it for everyone and its impossible to get a high enough score. Happened 5 times now. I try saying in chat not to do that, but it doesn't seem to work. Edit: God dammit, again! I thought people had listened this time since everyone was gliding. But then some moron did a dive attack. Edit2: Finally! A team of people who did it correctly. Though a big part of the blame is with the game; it just tells you to drop down at the end. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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just saw a frostflake hit for 37k+55k. kazuha and shenhe are so cool ganyu's ER is a toilet, but it doesn't matter because diona  Ytlaya posted:Getting >500 points on this event is awful, because if a single person drops down at the end before you can collect the coins, they ruin it for everyone and its impossible to get a high enough score. Happened 5 times now. I try saying in chat not to do that, but it doesn't seem to work. I had to run it a couple times. I don't really mind, I got a better team the second time and flubbed fewer plunges, we got a 580 or something
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I must've gotten lucky, I've done 3 runs and each time everyone's hoovered up all the coins before moving on to the next stage. It's actually a kinda fun event, except for the bit where falling off a platform means falling for ages until the game resets you (except in the last phase, of course). Think I got 560 each time, even. Bit of a faff killing stuff without the "plunges equal instadeath" buff, though. Oddly enough in a game designed around using a 4-person party, there are precious few characters that'll quickly murder a hilchurl-shaped HP sack.
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Ytlaya posted:Getting >500 points on this event is awful, because if a single person drops down at the end before you can collect the coins, they ruin it for everyone and its impossible to get a high enough score. Happened 5 times now. I try saying in chat not to do that, but it doesn't seem to work. That's pretty interesting to hear as the buzz I'd heard was that it was joke level easy and possible to complete by basically mashing and you might as well be able to solo it, but why would the greater internet ever lie about something like that? 
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Zenostein posted:Bit of a faff killing stuff without the "plunges equal instadeath" buff, though. Oddly enough in a game designed around using a 4-person party, there are precious few characters that'll quickly murder a hilchurl-shaped HP sack.
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lurksion posted:Well multiplayer monster HP buff. And then they spread them all out so you're all mostly soloing and not even reactioning off each other. Yeah, if the monsters didn't generally have 3 spawn locations, you could probably semi-organically split into 2p teams and work together. But with the way they're generally spread it's more like "I have raiden, I'll just hang around this yanfei and we can explode dudes, I guess. Oh poo poo they've run off." Realistically, the point of the 30s countdown is so you can sort out a strategy and change characters. But it's a breezy coop thing that somewhat falsely presents itself as being competitive (with the "got the most coins, did the most damage" notes/points at the end), so it's 30s of walking around and jumping, then a minute or two of chaotically smacking things around and chasing after coins. In retrospect, Jean might've been a good choice. There's specifically a point bonus for punting 1/3 enemies off the platforms.
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padijun posted:just saw a frostflake hit for 37k+55k. kazuha and shenhe are so cool  Shenhe lackers are truly missing out https://i.imgur.com/kcSunUC.mp4
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Zenostein posted:I must've gotten lucky, I've done 3 runs and each time everyone's hoovered up all the coins before moving on to the next stage. It's actually a kinda fun event, except for the bit where falling off a platform means falling for ages until the game resets you (except in the last phase, of course). Think I got 560 each time, even. Each time I've done it there's been 1 dude who plunge attacks to get all his coins in the final descent while everyone else is still trying to get their stack. Edit: Oh, I just noticed there's a score bonus for finishing first... that's pretty dumb and counters the co-op goal of letting everyone get their points. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY23geUIJQQ Not Genshin, but since we're in the absolute slowest part of a given patch here where most people are done the main events and all that's usually left is the Leyline Overflow, I figured I might as well share it. Mihoyo put out another animated teaser video for Honkai Impact for it's latest end of story arc tribute thing they seem to do for each leg of the story and it already has close to 3 million views in a day. This one appears to be the cap stone to the Elysia Realm saga, but is a teaser for a much longer video keep in mind and not the actual thing. That games probably got about a year or so left of story would be my guess and seems planned to end in sync with Star Rail's launch. Not expecting much news on the Genshin front till next friday when the floodgates should open on Sumeru's marketing which up to this point has been kind of a drip feed of a character teaser here, an environmental teaser there. gandlethorpe posted:
It's fleeting, but Shenhe's Cryo buff and Debuff jacks Ayaka's damage per hit up to well over double it's unbuffed amount. I don't have anything particularly fancy weapon or artifact wise and only have her burst crowned, but her charged hits go from about 4,200 x 3 to 9,700 x 3, her skill from 12K to about 25.5K and her burst from 7.5K to about 16K per tick. It's too bad it only lasts for a set number of hits though before reverting back to the base value and the only way to really get around this would be to grab some constellations for her next time she's around. I remember on her trial they had her at C1 so she had 2 E-Skill charges she could stock up which is a pretty significant difference. She only really does one particular thing, but does that thing exceptionally well. I almost don't consider my current Ganyu build which is still a WIP worth using without Shenhe also in the party to back her up either. Her S+ placement on most tier lists that she seemed to settle into is pretty fair IMO, though I was skeptical myself at first. The internet has a strong tendency to really underrate non straight DPS characters (especially utility ones) at first before slowly getting used to how they work and eventually bumping them up a spot or two in tier lists I've found. Except maybe Yelan depending on how you view her role who pretty much immediately was assessed to be a top tier SS+ must roll unit basically. One assessment I definitely don't agree with much is Yae though as just S tier. I think she's S+ tier with the caveat that you're also running her with Raiden and a really great asset to have around for providing extra off field DPS. Her towers are doing 3,500 damage per strike for me at talent level 6 and I barely have to do anything other than setting them up. They stay on field a pretty long time, she gets a fresh charge like every 5 seconds or so and her normal/charged attack is pretty solid too and the latter covers a wide AOE. Her biggest problem is that her burst could probably use a little bit of tweaking. Probably a decrease in energy cost would work best. The damage is fine, it's just way the gently caress too expensive even with Raiden in there as a battery and since it destroys the towers too it's almost kind of not really worth it to use sometimes unless you know your towers are about to expire anyway and you can be sure you can pair it with a reaction. Still in a lot of ways I consider her a great alternative to and perhaps even superior to Fischl in most instances since it's super easy to maintain 3 towers at all times, whereas with Fischl you're probably looking at some downtime on Oz here and there. If you're focusing down one enemy though C6 Fischl with Oz out beats Yae's towers pretty handily, especially if you have a fast attacking character, since Yae's towers have a set rotation speed, while C6 Fischl Oz attack speed is conditional on how much your on field character is attacking. Even still though you're only dealing that damage to one enemy at a time with Oz whereas Yae's doing steady AoE damage depending on your spread of the towers. It's something like one pulse per tower every 2 seconds I think. Kale fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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Kale posted:That's pretty interesting to hear as the buzz I'd heard was that it was joke level easy and possible to complete by basically mashing and you might as well be able to solo it, but why would the greater internet ever lie about something like that? It is extremely easy. The problem is that, in the second level (and only the second level so far), I believe it's impossible to get >500 points if you don't get a significant amount of coins from thr four columns of coons at the very end. So if, at the very end, someone just does a plunge attack, it immediately ends the match and prevents anyone from getting those coins.
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I have tried the coop event three times. First had a powerful meta team of double jumpers and air dashers. We effortlessly mowed through the stage and were about 200 over the highest points reward. Second, a player dropped about 5 seconds in, and the session crashed. Third time, we had a random assortment of newer players, and they seemed shaky on how to play. However, I could pretty easily handle the enemies just doing a whole Zhongli combo and knocking the enemies off the platform, and once I grabbed the plunge attack buff I didn't need any help to clear the subsequent platforms more or less on my own. 100 points over highest reward on first clear. The challenges seem very easy so far, but they are also quite fun. Good times, though I am hoping that we'll see some more challenging stuff in the final stages. Clearing everything with one round of pogo-sticking through the platforms feels maybe a bit too effortless. - As for Yae Miko chat, I find that my favorite thing about her is that the random targeting of the turrets is very good at disrupting enemies you aren't directly engaging. If you are dealing with crowds, and especially if you are trying to protect one of those escort quest rocks that can't go below 60% HP, then you really appreciate having some lightning bolts zapping grenadiers out of throwing and possibly encouraging aggro back towards the player. At the same time, if you are dueling one super enemy, the focus fire and ult are extremely respectable sources of damage and Electro for reactions. I appreciate her flexibility, and I tend to use her over my C2 Raiden Shogun unless I want to field Tartaglia or Diluc as well.
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avoraciopoctules posted:As for Yae Miko chat, I find that my favorite thing about her is that the random targeting of the turrets is very good at disrupting enemies you aren't directly engaging. If you are dealing with crowds, and especially if you are trying to protect one of those escort quest rocks that can't go below 60% HP, then you really appreciate having some lightning bolts zapping grenadiers out of throwing and possibly encouraging aggro back towards the player. At the same time, if you are dueling one super enemy, the focus fire and ult are extremely respectable sources of damage and Electro for reactions. I appreciate her flexibility, and I tend to use her over my C2 Raiden Shogun unless I want to field Tartaglia or Diluc as well. yeah, that's exactly why the yae miko "fix" they had live for all of like three days was such a nerf, it functionally removed her crowd control/disruption
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On the first event I didnt realise that whichever character you happened to be playing as when you started the event was who it defaulted to (and also didnt realise you could change it), so I ended up as Yelan (who is in my current overworld friendship team) teamed with 3 randos who had all brought their pyro DPS. Could have been worse. This was not long after the event started on the EU server, and none of us really knew what we were doing, so we 2-starred it. Gets me the primos, I'm not going to complain too much about not getting some mora and weapon exp. Second event went in as Kazuha and wrecked poo poo. Bonus on plunge attacks? Dont mind if I loving do. 3 stars even with a plunge into the sea almost immediately after we killed the last guys. Cant blame people for plunging into the sea instead of getting coins tbh, theres a big timer on the screen (implying time is a factor in the score) and it tells you to do it. Third event (todays one, the first one with the boat) was an absolute poo poo show. One rando got really pissed off I was in "his" boat instead of mine, one misunderstood the instructions so got to the area with the enemies, got out the boat and stood on a sea level platform instead of hitting their mark to activate the updrafts, and never seemed to click what they were supposed to do. Me and the other halfway competent player had to hit all the marks between the two of us. At least the two others werent entirely dead weight when it came to fighting. Still got 3 stars, I think the bar for the ship ones must be set really low...
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Mix. posted:yeah, that's exactly why the yae miko "fix" they had live for all of like three days was such a nerf, it functionally removed her crowd control/disruption That was such a weird "fix". "Hey, grats on getting Yae's C2 range extension. By the way, she now only attacks the closest target, the one you're probably already killing through other means". Her turrets dealing with those loving bottle-throwing treasure horders that are spread out across the entire area is what makes her so good, why would you remove that!? I'm really glad they reverted that instead of doubling down on their decision.
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You can change characters when it loads you in.  So when do the new artifact recycling options come? Looking at the new in-game character artifact statistics for Kazuha I'm realizing just how much a minority I am for having only found a single VV piece with EM mainstat. I'm in a bad spot because my VV sands all suck hard. I have excellent VV ATK% circlet with 60-98 EM substats but my only VV EM piece is also circlet so those options are meaningless to Kazuha. That leaves me with a poor quality off-set EM goblet because EM goblets are extremely rare. At the very least I need to find a VV ATK% goblet so I can pull from my vast collection of off-set EM sands  Sucrose Kazuha Jean Sayu Heizou All 4-piece VV sets with some spares and still this is the best I can do for Kazuha.  e: circlet != sands
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