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XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!
Edit: will repost when the kinks are ironed out :angel:

XYZAB fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Aug 5, 2022

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Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal

Handen posted:

Edit: Not ready to post this yet.

Repost it after your system makes you a billionaire (or just post tickers to buy, cuz I wasn't gonna read all that.)

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

Wifi Toilet posted:

Repost it after your system makes you a billionaire (or just post tickers to buy, cuz I wasn't gonna read all that.)

TL;DR: I've discovered the Dr. Bronner's shampoo bottle method of stock picking.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
I hope the canadian energy market goes up today, I bet on it rising a couple days ago which of course was an amazing time for it to drop 10%

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

The Fattest PI posted:

I hope the canadian energy market goes up today, I bet on it rising a couple days ago which of course was an amazing time for it to drop 10%

Mildly curious what you're looking at exactly happening in the Canadian energy market

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
I've made a few thousand on the canadian energy market. MEG is a large portion of that. Out of the big canadian energy companies, MEG stock seems to follow the trend of the others but with just bigger swings. If SU or CNQ or whatever jumps 2-5% in a day, MEG seems like it'll jump 5-10% in about the same time. So providing there's no market fuckery going on, I'll look at the 5 day and the 10 day to see if it kinda looks high or low, and if it's riding a bit low I'll buy, and then sometimes it'll jump that 5 -10% in the next day or two. Most of my sells have come within 2 minutes of the market opening because there's sometimes a big buy spike which drives the price up high before it settles.

I've bet wrong a couple times, but generally just have to wait 2-5 days for it to come back up and I'm back to even and can pull it out with either just a little loss or a small profit, and then I pick my entry point again over the next week.

SavageGentleman
Feb 28, 2010

When she finds love may it always stay true.
This I beg for the second wish I made too.

Fallen Rib
Reading both the CSPAM pestilence thread snd this thread is really inspiring my stock investments. Very bullish on monkeypox (check out the thread for more exciting info on its spread in the general population, it's positioning itself ideally for massive expansion when schools open again and the official response has been absolutely inept yet) so any company that has a good base now and could get involved with vaccine production (bavarian nordic does not have the capacity to produce what will be needed in autumn, especially as they are refurbishing they r biggest factory right now) will get on my fun money list.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1555531745054818305?t=N-5mQliusDum-QQA5wo9aA&s=19

When twitter doesn't have an edit button.

We're gonna get more rate hikes aren't we?

drk
Jan 16, 2005
More hikes were going to happen even if unemployment was flat, the hot jobs report didnt move the needle that much

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

:eyepop:

25k jobs expected
525k new jobs?

That seems wildly off. Half a million off? What

I'm not convinced monkeypox is going to spread in schools, vaccines aren't a huge money maker it turns out

Polio is popping off in NYC though. The one guy who got it through community spread in the US only came in finally because his legs stopped working, has been spreading it for > 6 months, lives in an antivax community, detecting large amounts of polio in city wastewater now

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/nyregion/polio-wastewater-cases-nyc.html

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

Hadlock posted:

:eyepop:

25k jobs expected
525k new jobs?

That seems wildly off. Half a million off? What

I'm not convinced monkeypox is going to spread in schools, vaccines aren't a huge money maker it turns out

Polio is popping off in NYC though. The one guy who got it through community spread in the US only came in finally because his legs stopped working, has been spreading it for > 6 months, lives in an antivax community, detecting large amounts of polio in city wastewater now

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/nyregion/polio-wastewater-cases-nyc.html

It was a typo. Should have said 250k that's why I thought it was funny.

Yeah rate hikes were always in the future. Couldn't think of a clever thing to say. How many of these positions were to help get $GOON through trials?

drk
Jan 16, 2005

Hadlock posted:

Polio is popping off in NYC though.

Hopefully not popping off limbs, polio is old testament like that

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
I'm happy to see NDRA slowly clawing its way back. Almost +40% in a month isn't too bad. I mean I'm still 80% down, but I'm not in a rush.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

drk posted:

Hopefully not popping off limbs, polio is old testament like that

Polio was doing long covid before long covid was cool. Back in it's day they just called it "post polio syndrome". Put author Arthur C Clarke in a wheelchair permanently 15+ years after his original infection

Maybe $NDRA will start building iron lungs

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Someone woke the BBBY, nobody stop it

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Space Fish posted:

Someone woke the BBBY, nobody stop it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qju6V1jLM

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Oscar Wild posted:

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1555531745054818305?t=N-5mQliusDum-QQA5wo9aA&s=19

When twitter doesn't have an edit button.

We're gonna get more rate hikes aren't we?

Weird recession

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Weird how all the numbers are up and yet it's called a recession.

Weird how all the record corporate profits are up but it's called inflation.

It's almost like all of those words are meaningless and we're just getting hosed by the rich.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Something something ~half a percent of the world's population died, another 2-4% are out sick (on top of everything else) it's almost like there's a labor shortage

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Finally bought $GOON on Tuesday at a cost of 0.30, and I’m up almost 20%! Thanks goons

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

latinotwink1997 posted:

Finally bought $GOON on Tuesday at a cost of 0.30, and I’m up almost 20%! Thanks goons

You fool!

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.
I thought the buy point was 0.69?

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

latinotwink1997 posted:

Finally bought $GOON on Tuesday at a cost of 0.30, and I’m up almost 20%! Thanks goons

What have you done!

cirus
Apr 5, 2011

Oscar Wild posted:

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1555531745054818305?t=N-5mQliusDum-QQA5wo9aA&s=19

When twitter doesn't have an edit button.

We're gonna get more rate hikes aren't we?

I looked through the report and the jobs numbers are not good. Full time employment was down 74k and the increased jobs were mostly part time and second jobs. People are getting squeezed by increased food and energy prices and having to take extra work to make ends meet. Expect demand collapse in non essential goods

Pastrami
May 27, 2004
Fear the Lunch Meat

cirus posted:

I looked through the report and the jobs numbers are not good. Full time employment was down 74k and the increased jobs were mostly part time and second jobs. People are getting squeezed by increased food and energy prices and having to take extra work to make ends meet. Expect demand collapse in non essential goods

No wonder they bought the dip!

Baddog
May 12, 2001
To try to spur some discussion - my biggest gains have come from just a few picks, great companies with such a good idea that people would be almost dumb not to use them. Amazon when aws came out. Netflix (pre streaming, when it was just obvious that their model was so much better than blockbuster). Costco - better prices for quality items, crazy lenient return policy, people are lining up to get in (still!). I remember my grandmother got into Walmart wayyyy back, cus when they came to her state and she saw how much better they were, it was a no-brainer to her.

Anyone have any thoughts on what could be a similar company now? Something that has become part of your routine, you don't know why more people aren't using it, anyone you tell about it is eager to try it?

Maybe it's just a dead time right now (pandemic?), but nothing I look at seems that exciting/explosive to me.

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Baddog posted:

To try to spur some discussion - my biggest gains have come from just a few picks, great companies with such a good idea that people would be almost dumb not to use them. Amazon when aws came out. Netflix (pre streaming, when it was just obvious that their model was so much better than blockbuster). Costco - better prices for quality items, crazy lenient return policy, people are lining up to get in (still!). I remember my grandmother got into Walmart wayyyy back, cus when they came to her state and she saw how much better they were, it was a no-brainer to her.

Anyone have any thoughts on what could be a similar company now? Something that has become part of your routine, you don't know why more people aren't using it, anyone you tell about it is eager to try it?

Maybe it's just a dead time right now (pandemic?), but nothing I look at seems that exciting/explosive to me.

Two things that come to mind are the house buying / selling industry and used car sales. Transactions with exorbitant fees and poor information parity between the buyer/seller and the agent. I'm not saying Redfin and Carvana are going to be the next uber but why in the hell are we paying real estate agents 6% (!!!) of the transaction price to sell a house?

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah Zillow and Redfin, or Zillow 2.0 (whoever that becomes) is going to own the post pandemic real estate market. Redfin at one point (still is?) Offering to stage and sell houses in top markets for 2% commission

Amazon still feels grossly undervalued. Everything except the heaviest bulk supplies (canned soda/sparking water) we buy online, and nobody competes with them at their scale, not even Walmart, also why I think UPS is a bad long term hold

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Baddog
May 12, 2001

spf3million posted:

Two things that come to mind are the house buying / selling industry and used car sales. Transactions with exorbitant fees and poor information parity between the buyer/seller and the agent. I'm not saying Redfin and Carvana are going to be the next uber but why in the hell are we paying real estate agents 6% (!!!) of the transaction price to sell a house?

Good ones. I am a huge fan of redfin, but the returns so far have not been good! To say the least. I'm hoping they come out the other side of this and really take off. Actually buying and maintaining a portfolio of real estate might be a huge misstep at the worst time, instead of just acting as middlemen.

CarMax seems like it might be a better option than carvana.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Amazon is getting into the healthcare space so that’s gonna be something. Subscribe to prime and get 2 hour emergency room priority

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
That's the most American thing ever

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
amazon truck pulls up with the mobile mri, hop in and get you scan sent to the doc.

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Elephanthead posted:

amazon truck pulls up with the mobile mri, hop in and get you scan sent to the doc.
this but unironically

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

spf3million posted:

this but unironically

Amazon prime has same-day defibrillations.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

George H.W. oval office posted:

Amazon is getting into the healthcare space so that’s gonna be something. Subscribe to prime and get 2 hour emergency room priority

Yep. They bought my primary care provider. :(

(Honestly, I don't like the One Medical model at all, but they were the only people taking new patients in my area.)

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

In case anyone is curious, the doctors cut of any online visit is about $86 and anything less than that is being subsidized by VC money

Source: worked at one of these outfits for too long

Market value to the customer is about $75 so you're losing money with overhead under $110 or so (need to pay RNs to check prescriptions, back office to follow up with prescriptions, drug interactions, not killing patients, lawyers etc)

I am not long teladoc, barrier to entry is too low now

Double edit: this is a really good way to get treatment for UTI, that was about a quarter of our business. Mental health is going to grow in this space hugely, might become the profit center of the online health industry

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Aug 7, 2022

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

Baddog posted:

Anyone have any thoughts on what could be a similar company now? Something that has become part of your routine, you don't know why more people aren't using it, anyone you tell about it is eager to try it?

I'm keeping a jaundiced eye on Meta in case that creepy Metaverse gains traction (I don't think it will).

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

LLCoolJD posted:

I'm keeping a jaundiced eye on Meta in case that creepy Metaverse gains traction (I don't think it will).

Is that poo poo even publicly accessible at this point? As best I can tell, there's literally nothing out there from Facebook, in spite of all the news and hype. On the other hand, hype can be anything but a shipped product has its limits. Maybe it's more profitable to never actually release?

(Meanwhile, VRChat is everything FB Metaverse could ever hope to be and more.)

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

VRchat had it's own meltdown a week or so ago, I;m not sure of the deets. I really don't think the Meta thing has a future. I got one on a lark, and I don't think you're going to convince people to be wearing this poo poo 24/7 the way people use their phones. Even if they're as compacts as glasses it's still an extra thing to be wearing all day, and the actual technology is decades behind being where I think it would have a real use case. And half of what Meta is pushing doesn't make sense. Why the gently caress would I want to wear a headset while typing up tpc reports or whatever pencil pushers do. How is having a VR meeting any better than a Zoom or In Person meeting.

Although most of the poo poo they're pushing is I'm pretty sure a smokescreen for porn, I think that's the only thing besides games that people actually want

Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Aug 8, 2022

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I can see a situation where VR becomes like 3d tv, it's neat but never catches on because like zoom calls, 2d tv was Good Enough, and the pandemic has forever reinforced that video conferencing is all that is necessary to get work done.

Any kind of metaverse thing would need a perpetual trusted auth system that lasts longer than the current product manager's career there. If you look at the carousel ride of chat platforms (i think google announced two chat platforms at the same tech conference one year?) google has cycled through over the last decade (also I think they have two different "meet" products now? i cannot keep track anymore) I don't think people have much trust in a long term auth system. Facebook tried linking facebook accounts with their VR stuff but they've walked back that requirement in the last six months because the creepy factor was just too high

Once you have the auth system in place, you need a bunch of lobbies that people return to over and over. Long-form forums have effectively gone extinct (there's what, this one and uh, metafilter? did i miss any) people prefer high carb small portion social media not sure how that would work. All of the promotional material looks like something out of the Fallout vault animations totally detached from the product actually needed and would function long term. Metaverse will probably end up like Epcot Center or Tomorrowland, a quaint if not weirdly optimistic sidebar to captialism

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