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Kchama posted:Is it? I thought it was just a right-wing shithouse, considering everything about them. Communist like Stalinism, not communist communist.
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Murgos posted:I wonder if they realize that Russia isn’t a communist country? I have seen people of nearly every political persuasion either not know or purposely forget this fact so I'm gonna guess these people also find it convenient to pretend.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1556333085905518593?s=20&t=c9IFysSTc_V9Ayc12-WvbA I always felt like these orgs were a honeypot.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Looking into this: some prominent dsa affiliated people have made some pretty unambiguously pro-Ukraine statements, albeit not while directly representing the dsa afaict. They also haven't made more pro-Russian statements and are publicly staying pretty conspicuously silent. Which is spineless as hell, but it makes sense: it's a big wedge issue for the American left and there's been kind of a deal with the devil made over the last 10-20 years to look the other way wrt weird left-wing authoritarian and pro-russia/china stuff in exchange for getting more seats filled and there isn't really any way to weigh in without alienating a bunch of at least one group. They also tried some wishywashy bullshit early on and it just pissed everyone off. I don't see them recovering from this any time soon, if at all. They've basically lost all political clout inside of the Democratic party while disappointing the tankies for not going full Putin, and enraging progressives for both sidesing the issue. psydude fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Aug 8, 2022 |
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1556333085905518593?s=20&t=c9IFysSTc_V9Ayc12-WvbA Do they still consider Richard Nixon an hero and exemplar of "American Communism"? Those are those guys, right?
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The Z is the new swastika Not satisfied with merely destroying a symbol used by all sorts of religions and cultures for hundreds if not thousands of years, Putin decided to ruin a letter of a number of different alphabets.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The Z is the new swastika Kazinsal posted:Not satisfied with merely destroying a symbol used by all sorts of religions and cultures for hundreds if not thousands of years, Putin decided to ruin a letter of a number of different alphabets. Zed's dead, baby.
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I can imagine a somewhat contrarian socialist/communist attending and liking the Internationale, the flags, the schtick, then “ruh roh” at the Z.
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It's so stupid, because there were a handful of symbols being used at the beginning of the conflict, but they settled on zed.
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Somehow, there is HARM wreckage in Ukraine. https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1556334462480392193
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Spoggerific posted:Somehow. It's not just that they have a weapon that we didn't announce we'd give them, but it's an air to surface missile and I don't think you can just strap those on to soviet fighters?
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's not just that they have a weapon that we didn't announce we'd give them, but it's an air to surface missile and I don't think you can just strap those on to soviet fighters? Apparently some SU-25's with the proper kits can carry them.
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mlmp08 posted:I can imagine a somewhat contrarian socialist/communist attending and liking the Internationale, the flags, the schtick, then “ruh roh” at the Z. The tendency in question is called "patsoc" ("patriotic socialism") and is half a continuation of "national bolshevism" (the idiots mostly based in Russia who literally flew Nazi flags with the hammer and sickle replacing the swastika) and half a justification of being Putinist fanboys and trying to reconcile Putin's very open far right ethno-centric nationalism with anything vaguely approaching socialism. A huge part of it is honestly just people like Caleb Maupin trying to justify their grift accepting cash from RT while maintaining socialist bona-fides. RT gleefully funds all manner of far-left figures in a very openly stated effort at causing chaos in the west, while its head (Margarita Simonyan) is on Russian TV nightly demanding Ukrainian blood and the death of Russians who defy the new order. Squaring that circle requires not seeing a lot of things!
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:There's a container sized ground launch platform for those missiles apparently. Has it been manufactured and purchased or just shown as proof of concept?
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No idea. The concept was shown off four or five years ago, so not outside the realm of possibility that they are out there, even if only in tiny numbers.
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I'm pretty sure I saw an announcement that they were being sent to Ukraine. It was a bullet point in a longer list of articles and the few that noticed it were a bit confused as to how the Ukrainians we're supposed to use it, since they didn't have any compatible systems at that time.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Somehow, there is HARM wreckage in Ukraine. Unfortunately, feels fake to me based on some replies in the comments: https://twitter.com/Patryk31107837/status/1556380207103213570?t=Cg-E08IW5gS7SNaGi6afmg&s=19
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That's not correct. What's highlighted as the serial number is likely the part number, and on all missiles of the same or similar revisions, that should stay the same. The serial number is the section that says S/N. Note that the mockup/prototype has a serial of "RUN". I'm not saying it isn't a fake, but without knowing the exact codes and part numbers , nothing printed on those mangled parts looks inherently wrong.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see somebody firing 80's era Exocets dug out of an Argentinian warehouse. This war is like NASA buying Space Shuttle chips on Ebay. Everyone bought the outdated Soviet poo poo because it was cheap, and this war has created a demand for it, so suddenly that rusted rear end T-60 can suddenly find its way via railcar or container ship to a Ukranian/Russian near you.
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S/N:. RUN
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Interesting image used in this tweet from yesterday. Unless I'm just misidentifying the plane. https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1556289056639619072 E: but yeah the text on that fin doesn't look right to me either.
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It seems like a lot of the headscratching seems to be over how the Ukrainians would actually fire an AGM-88 because even if an SU-25 technically would be able to mount the missile, its unlikely it would be able to fire it according to random Twitter peeps
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What is an 'antiradiation' missile? That sounds like shooting bullets at a hurricane but I may be misinterpreting it some how?
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bird food bathtub posted:What is an 'antiradiation' missile? That sounds like shooting bullets at a hurricane but I may be misinterpreting it some how? It homes in on radar.
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bird food bathtub posted:What is an 'antiradiation' missile? That sounds like shooting bullets at a hurricane but I may be misinterpreting it some how? Even though it was explained succinctly in another reply, let Willem Dafoe amusingly describe SEAD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NlXZzqGURg
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Stultus Maximus posted:It homes in on radar. Ah, so more EM radiation and they're basically radar hunters? That makes a lot more sense than trying to shoot a missile at a mushroom cloud.
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bird food bathtub posted:Ah, so more EM radiation and they're basically radar hunters? That makes a lot more sense than trying to shoot a missile at a mushroom cloud. Specifically, it's anti ground based radar. There may be other applications, but the specific use case is against enemy Anti Aircraft systems.
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bird food bathtub posted:Ah, so more EM radiation and they're basically radar hunters? That makes a lot more sense than trying to shoot a missile at a mushroom cloud. I always interpret the name as "shoot them at things that have been irradiated to fix them" because I play too many video games
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Even though it was explained succinctly in another reply, let Willem Dafoe amusingly describe SEAD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NlXZzqGURg Good movie. Read the wiki on it; the other pilot (Brad Johnson) died from covid last February at 62, he was in the movie "Always" as well.
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A.o.D. posted:Specifically, it's anti ground based radar. There may be other applications, but the specific use case is against enemy Anti Aircraft systems. There was a B-52 which got hit in Desert Storm by an AGM-88 via a blue on blue incident and got its name changed to "In HARM's Way"
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TK-42-1 posted:I'm surprised they're still allowed to name bombers Desert storm was 31 years ago grampa
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:No idea. The concept was shown off four or five years ago, so not outside the realm of possibility that they are out there, even if only in tiny numbers. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24111/northrop-grumman-shows-off-shipping-container-launched-anti-radiation-missile-concept It would be a bit surprising if this is the first appearance of the concept. Supposedly anti-radiation missiles was listed in an aid package, but I can't find more than this reference. https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1556286860128931843
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The US supplied Ukraine with anti-radiation missiles, which Ukraine can fire from their own, non-western aircraft. Source: Colin H. Kahl just said that an hour ago or so on international TV. Transcript to come; it was part of today’s on-camera press briefing.
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