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The Sausages posted:and FFS just learned some dipshits believe Jones actually is Hicks! This is so loving stupid but at least it pisses Jones off, it actually upsets him for some reason. isn't he a full on narcissist? the idea of someone else getting his kudos would drive him insane
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Caveat: I literally had a bill hicks quote as my senior quote, and at 31 I still contend that it fit perfectly I think BH would flirt with more libertarian ideology and maybe go the Dennis Miller post-9/11 brain break, but I could easily see a more Paul F Tompkins approach or “don’t be a dick how is this challenging”, minus the wardrobe. I’d settle for a Carlin-esque “I might not fully understand this but gently caress you right wing assholes” attitude. As long as it’s not the Chapelle route. Good god. It’s hard to ascribe current day values on someone dead for over 25 years.
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Aug 8, 2022 12:50
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alf_pogs posted:isn't he a full on narcissist? the idea of someone else getting his kudos would drive him insane According to his divorce brouhaha, he is diagnosed NPD.
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Aug 8, 2022 12:54
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Bill Hicks would hate to be compared to Alex Jones but I believe he would love AJ being mad about this. E^^ That makes a hell of a lot of sense, the narcissism thing.
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Aug 8, 2022 12:56
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I couldn't trust almost anyone in subversive stand-up comedy from 90s/Oughts into now. A handful of them that I liked (Which I don't want to name, because  ) just went right-wing brain on me and I hate it.
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Morter posted:I couldn't trust almost anyone in subversive stand-up comedy from 90s/Oughts into now. A handful of them that I liked (Which I don't want to name, because Found the Jim Breuer fan.
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Aug 8, 2022 14:32
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the fundie christian who never smoked pot. the funniest thing he ever did was his finger puppets bit with the three armed umpire and the dog taking a poop.
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Aug 8, 2022 14:33
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Darth Brooks posted:I haven't gone door to door in two years and have done barely any witnessing in the same time period. Doesn't change my belief that Jehovah's Witnesses have the best understanding of the Bible among any religion. If you dismiss the Bible entirely that's a different thing. 
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Aug 8, 2022 14:39
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I don't think struggling through scripted lines someone else wrote really counts, but I'm not a universal arbiter on what legally constitues funny, I'll grant that others may genuinely consider him to be capable of producing jokes.
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teen witch posted:Caveat: I literally had a bill hicks quote as my senior quote, and at 31 I still contend that it fit perfectly PFT is the best middle aged comedian alive so that's a high bar to clear
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Analytic Engine posted:PFT is the best middle aged comedian alive so that's a high bar to clear I am begging you not to get me started on my PYT, PFT
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Found the Jim Breuer fan. poo poo. yeah i found his story-telling bits funny. I was also a teenager then. I'm just slightly less stupid now.
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Aug 8, 2022 15:31
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Comedy Bang-Bang is on tour and Sir Andrew Lloyd Weber will be with them and I'm so thrilled. If tickets were physical anymore, I would clutch them.
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Aug 8, 2022 15:37
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Also I am worried Hicks would fall down the anti-trans hole, but maybe I'm just burned by that in general. I'm still getting over Mulaney having Chapelle as an opener on his tour and not even saying anything publicly one way or the other. I was fine with him leaving his wife - poo poo happens in relationships we don't know about. But I saw him on his tour late last year and the concept that the opener could have been random appearance of Chapelle had I been so unlucky as to live near him is just, ugh. Just inflicting that on people isssss not cool. I also didn't learn that Louis CK won a Grammy this year until recently (yeah don't ask me how I missed that) and just like ugh this loving world anyway what I'm saying is we must treasure and protect PFT
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Aug 8, 2022 15:41
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He (e - ALW) was always a *word banned outside of UK and Aus threads* and has only been worse since he started wasting a seat in the Lords.
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goatface posted:He was always a *word banned outside of UK and Aus threads* and has only been worse since he started wasting a seat in the Lords. Paul F. Tompkins?
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Grand Fromage posted:This doesn't change the fact that Jordan is pretty ignorant about a lot of stuff and sometimes needs to shut the gently caress up, but he's still integral and I wouldn't want the podcast without him. Jordan is ignorant about the eps by design. The setup is Dan listens to aj, and picks it apart for Jordan who reacts to what he's hearing. KF doesn't work without that.
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I mean it could just be someone less annoying and more funny, I'm not saying it has to be solo Perhaps it could even be Jordan that could improve to be that less annoying guy
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Aug 8, 2022 15:51
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Maybe I've gotten used to it, but I enjoy Jordan. Sure, maybe he shouldn't shout as much. But on the other hand, as KrunkMcGrunk said, he's an expression of the catharsis we feel whenever you want to yell out, "WHAT IN THE EVERLIVING gently caress?!" when you hear that poo poo. Now if you'll excuse me, here come the sex robots.
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Aug 8, 2022 15:57
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I think he overdoes it, and not that rarely laughs/ shouts at things he misunderstands and just ends up looking like the bigger buffoon. And he just doesn’t make any interesting (or particularly entertaining) comments.
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I think they make a good team and their dynamic together works pretty well for me. I come into listening to it as a comedy podcast and for me it serves that purpose well. Some American comics are a bit much for me but in this context it just works. Each to their own and all that!
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:Jordan is ignorant about the eps by design. The setup is Dan listens to aj, and picks it apart for Jordan who reacts to what he's hearing. KF doesn't work without that. Jordan says plenty of dumb poo poo about non-IW topics and has had some painfully long discussions of it. But about the same level of other comedy lefty podcasts hosts trying to actually talk about history or the psychological literature (or whatever) where if you do know your stuff it gets really painful. Because that's what happens when people talk about things they're not really experts in. But he's got a surprisingly high track record considering his job is he's supposed to be absolutely stupid on a quantum level, completely ignorant of any random poo poo that Dan mentions, and then needs to cotton to all of it immediately after a short, on feed explanation. And be funny while doing it. I think you folks are underestimating how difficult a line to walk that is.
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Aug 8, 2022 16:25
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Being the audience surrogate is always hard because people are really loving dumb and you cannot assume they know or remember anything. You can shoot low and miss, but never by far.
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Aug 8, 2022 16:33
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I would much rather Jordan not try to be funny because he's bad at it and it's worse than just a regular guy to bounce off of who isn't aggressively annoying He just yells catchphrases like THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL and I HATE THESE PEOPLE SO MUCH, I don't need that!
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goatface posted:Being the audience surrogate is always hard because people are really loving dumb and you cannot assume they know or remember anything. You can shoot low and miss, but never by far. Does this require screaming and yelling all the time tho?
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Maybe because I listened to a lot of the Dollop I’m immune to a cohost screaming after every sentence. But eventually I stopped listening to the dollop.
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Aug 8, 2022 17:12
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Jordan would be more tolerable if he didn’t knowingly pontificate about the stand-up life while simultaneously struggling constantly and badly to do bits. I mean these guys are out here doing random cantina themes on a podcast when CBB has existed for over a decade in comedy terms they are the hackiest hacks.
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Aug 8, 2022 17:16
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i do get annoyed sometimes when jordan shouts over the clip audio, but that's the only time i find him really grating just let the clips do the talking, jordan...if you scream off-mic and we can still hear it in the distance, that's funny enough
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He's said many many times about being a failed stand up. I think he knows.
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Rinkles posted:I forgot how many people got ensnared by Loose Change. I didn't realize at the time that it was a portent of things to come. The internet makes you stupid, but social media turned that dial to 11. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/podcasts/the-daily/911-conspiracy-theories-loose-change.html?smid=url-share NY Times Daily had a fantastic retrospective look at Loose Change 20 years later, and it's eye opening how young the internet was and how naive the users were. Google Videos really made it possible. The biggest takeaway is just how amateurish it was made, literally by teenage boys in their bedrooms. It's super pathetic in hindsight and anyone who still gives it credibility is 100% a loving moron.
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Scam Likely posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/podcasts/the-daily/911-conspiracy-theories-loose-change.html?smid=url-share The best part of Loose Change was when the kids who made it had to face down actual structural engineers who explained how incredibly wrong every one of their assumptions were. In a perfect world that would have been the end of the Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams theories, but in this reality you can just claim that the engineers are part of the NWO and WOULD say something like that.
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red19fire posted:Maybe because I listened to a lot of the Dollop I’m immune to a cohost screaming after every sentence. But eventually I stopped listening to the dollop. Man I just do not understand the dollop. I like the concept, but it just doesn’t work. But that’s ok! Not everything has to be for me all the time. The Dollop isn’t a lesser show based on my opinions. Anyhow, I keep thinking about Owen’s media studies degree, which is pretty much what I have, and how he reminded me of someone I knew in college. He got nixed from a campaign in RI because whoops he left all of his lovely opinions on his Twitter from years ago. I dealt with him maaaaany times and I’d even say at one point he kind of was a friend! We had some of the same crowds and he tried to get a frat started on my commuter campus and whoops they were kinda bigoted too, and reportedly acted How Frats Act. I worked with a girlfriend of his, she was such a sweetie. He didn’t deserve her. God even then he was such an rear end. Obnoxious sheltered suburban boy on the mean streets of Providence. I finally had enough of him when we had a class together and he went on a screed about immigrants and the professor just let him. I told him to gently caress off and walked out.
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RFC2324 posted:Does this require screaming and yelling all the time tho? Not always, but it does if you're also playing the roles of active audience and hype man, trying to replicate listener thoughts and provide the input of a notional crowd, while also riling them up to join in with the argument being advanced. You get specialists who do that in some media. They have the knowledgeable one, the contributing but knowledge-less one, and the presenter who chips in mostly to shriek obvious points & catch phrases, keep the thing on topic, and generally keep the energy going. Alex Jones does all roles by himself in a sort of one man band performance. Even working in the adverts as an organic part of the piece. It would be impressive if he wasn't such a pillock. This is all just my opinion having listened to too many hours of podcast and radio. I'm not presenting the findings of a scholarly analysis of podcast structure or anything.
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I watched Loose Change when I was 14 or so and got sucked in for a few months. Then I had an epiphany of "Is Bush really a mastermind or is it more likely he's an opportunist? Duh."
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the yeti posted:‘This should be illegal ‘ is especially obnoxious, ugh this post in particular should be illegal
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There is a KF thread in RGD by the by
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Outrail posted:this post in particular should be illegal All posts should be illegal
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