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mobby_6kl posted:They don't really go into details of how it's implemented so it's hard to say. But in my scenario it was more like if you say "Here's my iphone photo of my neighbor committing a murder" and the phone's signature is missing... well then you assume the photo is fake or altered. The bigger issue is legislating entire industries out of existence. Otherwise you'd tell every single security camera and CCTV company they have to jump into cryptography for their footage to be admissible in court, along with every auto manufacturer and dash cam and cellphone and (thing that records). The sheer cost for manufacturers means this straight up will not happen, since companies hate spending money.
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mobby_6kl posted:Eh, I think the recording device cryptographically signing the original image/video would be an easier and more reliable method than trying to build an AI that defeats anti-detection AI and so on. E.g. https://petapixel.com/2022/08/08/sonys-forgery-proof-tech-adds-crypto-signature-to-photos-in-camera/ Totally unworkable as a serious anti-forgery method. Anyone with hardware access can control the outputs and inputs for the sensor (with the crudest method being the old heist movie staple: putting a photo in front of the security camera). Everyone who has a camera has hardware access to it.
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TIP posted:a machine that mass produces modern art, product photo (Self Portrait)
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mobby_6kl posted:Eh, I think the recording device cryptographically signing the original image/video would be an easier and more reliable method than trying to build an AI that defeats anti-detection AI and so on. E.g. https://petapixel.com/2022/08/08/sonys-forgery-proof-tech-adds-crypto-signature-to-photos-in-camera/ just take a picture of the fake picture with the crypto camera
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Hands are deformed, but I'm very amused the right saber looks like a butane flame
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KakerMix posted:And it will be as effective as legislating piracy, it is way, way too late. Society has to adapt that photographic evidence, or even video, doesn't matter anymore. Was a good run but rip, it's over. I think a technical solution should be possible for important devices like security cameras. A TPM chip in the camera and encryption of exported video with the camera's private key should be enough to protect evidence from being hosed with by almost anyone but a state actor. But yeah, most of video evidence is(and will continue) to come from unsecure cameras though, so it's no longer reliable. Gonna be hard to convince senile boomer judges and juries that they can't trust their eyes anymore.
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GABA ghoul posted:I think a technical solution should be possible for important devices like security cameras. A TPM chip in the camera and encryption of exported video with the camera's private key should be enough to protect evidence from being hosed with by almost anyone but a state actor. AI will be a great tool for managers to gaslight their employees/HR with fake camera footage
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Makin' me some Castlevanias in Stable Diffusion! 
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KakerMix posted:The bigger issue is legislating entire industries out of existence. Otherwise you'd tell every single security camera and CCTV company they have to jump into cryptography for their footage to be admissible in court, along with every auto manufacturer and dash cam and cellphone and (thing that records). Isn't this partly what TPM 2.0 push for windows 11 is? That's like a $5 chip. The push just has to come from Google as an Android requirement and Apple seems very into securing personal data so this seems like something they would be willing to do. The Camera companies will probably fight it but any company worth actually installing like Axis is going to have cameras that can do this the moment it's ready. It probably wont be a quick software update but maybe it can be.
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pixaal posted:Isn't this partly what TPM 2.0 push for windows 11 is? That's like a $5 chip. The push just has to come from Google as an Android requirement and Apple seems very into securing personal data so this seems like something they would be willing to do. The Camera companies will probably fight it but any company worth actually installing like Axis is going to have cameras that can do this the moment it's ready. It probably wont be a quick software update but maybe it can be. Ok but then you get to the other issue (already mentioned) which is take a picture with a chipped camera of an AI generated picture, bam, signed picture of something that doesn't exist.
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Really, everyone should just start wearing outlandish masks everywhere they go in public and adopting fake Internet names. Then any kind of deep fake surveillance couldn't be used anyway, since anybody could have been wearing that mask.
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KakerMix posted:Ok but then you get to the other issue (already mentioned) which is take a picture with a chipped camera of an AI generated picture, bam, signed picture of something that doesn't exist. Right each camera would have a private and a public key, you'd provide the camera with the private key as part of proving the footage is real. I guess you could rip the private key from your own camera and use it to forget documents that your camera will have signed, but you know have to forge something that is located where that camera could have seen.
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It seems to me that any digital credentials will eventually be easily spoofed or stripped by anyone who cares to do it. Not that that automatically means doom and gloom, I don't think your average citizen is going to be running a propaganda mill. But I can't imagine this tech won't be playing some kind of role in disinformation at some point, considering the post-truth fake-news world we're in now.Last Visible Dog posted:Makin' me some Castlevanias in Stable Diffusion! Then again these are undeniably badass so yeah, hard to say whether it's worth it I guess dot communist fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Aug 9, 2022 |
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An experiment in "If we make The Last Supper long enough, will we eventually end up with multiple Jesuses?" Result: Oops, all Jesus!
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 !dream "an alien with a face that looks like a fuzzy peach the peach is fuzzy pink warm and ripe the alien has horns and a mean smile the alien has chicken feet cruel smile, 4k, highly detailed, high quality, amazing, high particle effects, glowing, majestic, soft lighting" -C 5.5 -i -S 3118109183 -s 111 the prompt evolved over time I was originally going for something very different but fell in love with this concept which is why the prompt seems weird. At one point he had a weird artifact that turned into stick like feet so I described them as chicken feet but that got rid of his mouth so I added a second mouth description, and the feet turn into the wings / cape oh and he got that wicked smile. pixaal fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 9, 2022 |
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mobby_6kl posted:They don't really go into details of how it's implemented so it's hard to say. But in my scenario it was more like if you say "Here's my iphone photo of my neighbor committing a murder" and the phone's signature is missing... well then you assume the photo is fake or altered. Some kind of pattern could be hidden in the image, identifying the AI it was made by.
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  Guy Fieri and Shrek getting married holding hands on a beach in hawaii
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I like how it seemingly read it as "an individual who is both Shrek and Guy Fieri" but then went "oh poo poo I need 2 of them" Some more Midjourney Another Strandbeest. In the jungle this time  Cats performing a musical in the style of Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec  Giant monsters caught on polaroid  Inspector Gadget- Sin City style  a Tardigrade in the style of a sports team logo  A flower with butterfly wings for petals. 
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Crapple! posted:I like how it seemingly read it as "an individual who is both Shrek and Guy Fieri" but then went "oh poo poo I need 2 of them" It really doesn't seem to like multiple things being described right now it's a pretty major weakness but you might be able to get something decent if you start playing with -C 20-30 range assuming that was made using SD
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Man I love loving with seeds. These are the exact prompt, jumping 10 years between each image, 1955 to 1995    
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"Norman Rockwell painting of children playing on Stonehenge" 
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had to get creative to get around the content filter, but it got there eventually: "Saul Goodman in a T pose in front of a wooden cross, painted by da Vinci" 
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KakerMix posted:Man I love loving with seeds. These are the exact prompt, jumping 10 years between each image, 1955 to 1995 That's so awesome. I love the 80s car. The front looks like a VHS tape These are awesome too. I'm guessing from how good the people look this isn't Midjourney which I wish did things like that a little better. Oh well. I still like its creative flair. I did these earlier in MJ and they're some of my favourites yet A tarot card called "the banker".  A graveyard in the style of a pirate treasure map  Travellers on a post apocalyptic highway in the Jetson's universe as vector art  I like what seem to be interesting artistic choices in these like the coins flying out of the guys head in the top image, or the heads of the 4 travellers blending in with the burnt up jetsons-style houses in the background, although these are probably just coincidences or something it saw somewhere. Still cool though
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oh man, it had fun with this one "the cover of a novel set in 1732. the novel concerns a priest who loves cats, and diabolical conspiracies in the Catholic Church. the style is modern oil painting."   and a couple variations:  
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Never thought I would be the first victim of Dall-E identity forgery
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Crapple! posted:Another Strandbeest. In the jungle this time This is a burnt out siltstrider, N’wah!
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     I had 25 free images to generate and ten minutes to do so, and this is the result. I wouldn't want to be a watercolour painter right now.
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These are not mine. There is an extremely dedicated tester I'm watching create movie images of a Victorian-era family exploring space. This is just a small sampling, they are churning out hundreds of these, refining them the whole time. They have them meeting aliens, building inventions, going on adventures, playing at the park, etc. It's like watching someone's dreams unfold, it's wild.    EDIT: Now they're playing chess in the park with a robot nearby. I can't stop watching. It's like a whole alternate universe spawning. 
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Going to be wild when they get audio paired up and can make small shorts using a static character pool like some kind of variety show all with synthetic voice and music.
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My slightly less ambitious attempts at Jodorowsky's "Dune" including several Barons. The movie was never made, so who's to say?      
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:My slightly less ambitious attempts at Jodorowsky's "Dune" including several Barons. The movie was never made, so who's to say? These are absolutely stills from a 1970s movie, wow. Also I got my invite   It's not perfect but it definitely gets the concept.
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Glenn Danzig eating spaghetti on a submarine A dragon made of chicken wings  nerd wizard riding a scooter and holding a staff made of cats 
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"inside a dystopian and post apocalyptic Walmart where swarms of rats cover the floor and smiling families trade ammunition for food, in the style of H.R. Giger" -n 9 -g
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"the cover of an emo album about the importance of flossing"
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precision posted:"the cover of an emo album about the importance of flossing" "Floss of Loss" would have worked. good try dall-e
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Took other people's prompts in Stable Diffusion and inserted a very special man into them. As an Apex Legends character  As a Tibetan Monk  As a wizard  You just don't gently caress around in Los Santos' Flavortown district, else the Fieri Gang is going to roll up on your business  Edit, some illustrations: Genshin Impact  Random:  
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I didn't know it was possible to have a wizard beard and a goatee at the same time. thank you AI
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