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FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
For starters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqzbHhULj2k&t=135s

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Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

FunkyAl posted:

I want a giant image of all the times Sitcom Actors appeared on Star Trek and vice versa.

There's one floating around online just for Cheers iirc.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

FunkyAl posted:

I want a giant image of all the times Sitcom Actors appeared on Star Trek and vice versa.

This is called 'the crew of the Bozeman'

Nice Tuckpointing!
Nov 3, 2005

Just off the top of my head from Cheers there's:

Kelsey Grammer (Capt of the Boseman in TNG's "Cause and Effect")
Bebe Neuwirth (Seductive Rapist alien in TNG's "First Contact", the TV episode, not the movie)
Kirstie Alley in Wrath of Khan
John Ratzenberger in Empire Strikes Back
Ted Danson in the Orville

Not Evans
Aug 2, 2007

Tobias, have you been flogging Simpsons prop replicas on the internet again?
Watching TNG for the first time ever and had to stop season 2's The Emissary and look up the full cast because an out-of-focus Diedrich Bader has a couple of lines and my brain could NOT let go of the fact that I knew him from something, unlike literally everyone else to appear on the show where it's a constant game of "Oh! It's them! From thing before/after this!"

Gotta say, it's drat good sci fi, I'd seen the movies in the VHS era but as someone who previously liked SG1 best out of all the Star Something franchises I had no idea what I was missing out on.

naem
May 29, 2011

TNG is possibly the best sci fi ever made

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I like DS9 better but DS9 only works as well as it does when it's in conversation with the baseline that TNG established. It wouldn't be nearly as good if it didn't play off of what came before.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
tng at least had a better finale than ds9. for the rest, i'd put it down to personal preference.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
It’s weirding me out that Voyager and ST09 were from the same decade

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

HD DAD posted:

It’s weirding me out that Voyager and ST09 were from the same decade

There were pretty dramatic changes in basically everything from March 2001 to 2009...

DJ_Mindboggler
Nov 21, 2013

Arc Hammer posted:

I like DS9 better but DS9 only works as well as it does when it's in conversation with the baseline that TNG established. It wouldn't be nearly as good if it didn't play off of what came before.

This is also my take. DS9 is higher quality, but it wouldn't work without familiarity with the world (and more importantly, worldview) of TNG.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Nice Tuckpointing! posted:

Just off the top of my head from Cheers there's:

Kelsey Grammer (Capt of the Boseman in TNG's "Cause and Effect")
Bebe Neuwirth (Seductive Rapist alien in TNG's "First Contact", the TV episode, not the movie)
Kirstie Alley in Wrath of Khan
John Ratzenberger in Empire Strikes Back
Ted Danson in the Orville

Kate Mulgrew had a bit role on Cheers.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Spiner was also on Cheers.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




They actually looked into getting Kirstie Alley to guest in Cause and Effect, with Saavik as Bateson's XO.

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

Arc Hammer posted:

I like DS9 better but DS9 only works as well as it does when it's in conversation with the baseline that TNG established. It wouldn't be nearly as good if it didn't play off of what came before.

For me, objectively DS9 is a better tv show, but I will always love TNG first and foremost


Picard >> Sisko

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I'll hold my judgement until the Sisko series

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

Brawnfire posted:

I'll hold my judgement until the Sisko series

Yeah, Picard has definitely put the spoilered part on much shakier ground :(

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'd be fine with Sisko coming back for a family reunion on Lower Decks. Bring back Cirroc Lofton, Penny Johnson Jerald and Avery Brooks to do sone voicework and give them a happy ending away from the Star Trek: Picard misery hour.

DJ_Mindboggler
Nov 21, 2013
Has anybody here ever seen Roots: The Gift? It's a Christmas special with the cast of Roots, featuring both Kate Mulgrew and Avery Brooks in prominent roles, as well as LeVar Burton reprising his role of Kunta Kinte. (Tim Russ also appears, but his part is much less prominent). It's quite good if you're at all fans of those actors/Roots generally.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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DJ_Mindboggler posted:

Has anybody here ever seen Roots: The Gift? It's a Christmas special with the cast of Roots, featuring both Kate Mulgrew and Avery Brooks in prominent roles, as well as LeVar Burton reprising his role of Kunta Kinte. (Tim Russ also appears, but his part is much less prominent). It's quite good if you're at all fans of those actors/Roots generally.

It's amazing how fake this sounds, but it's not

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

External Organs posted:

There were pretty dramatic changes in basically everything from March 2001 to 2009...

Yeah, I wouldn't say they're really from the same decade. Voyager is extremely a product of the 90s.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
Oh as for sitcom/Trek guest bits, it blew my mind when I found out within the last couple of years that the series finale of Webster was a crossover episode with TNG.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Brawnfire posted:

It's amazing how fake this sounds, but it's not

The Roots Christmas special is more shocking than the Roots XXX parody. :psyduck:

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I'm behind and don't have cable what's the deal with Picard eh? it sucks? I like him but have not seen anything about it can someone please advise

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it's unbelievably bad. it makes discovery look like a tng best episode compilation.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!
I like to imagine PIcard is just really long kind of cruel episode of Tapestry.

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

picard season 3 ep 1:

We open on Picard's android body being horribly tortured by those weird new Romulans. He wakes up screaming, in his quarters, on the Enterprise-E. Sweaty and bleary-eyed, he puts on his blue uniform complete with his lieutenant pips and heads to work in astrophysics. Because that timeline still kept going, all timelines still keep going. and every night old Lieutenant Picard dreams of different Picards, dying.

He has always done this. He always wondered why. He has tried everything, that isn't too dangerous. Psychotherapists. Neurologists. All baffled, and saddened, at the burdens of this nice scientist.

But today he will find an answer.

A flash, just as he is about to leave his quarters.
Q: Picard.
JL: [spins around, terrified] Who are you? What are you doing in my quarters? [he taps his commbadge] Security to deck 4 section 13! [no reply] Stay back!
Q: They aren't going to hear you, Picard. I am... your father. Of a sort.
JL: My father?
Q: Those dreams, you see.
[Picard is shocked]
Q: The only universe Jean Luc Picard was timid would be one where the universe tortured him, every night, of absolutely realistic visions of him and and everyone he loved, dying.
JL: Timid?
Q: I... needed that universe to exist, you see, because I... [embarrassed] needed to prove a point. Picard said something WRONG, you see, and I needed to... show him. It was funny, I thought, or at least a bit artful. So I just made a timeline, exactly like his but where he – you – had a psychic ability to see through the infinitudes of possibility, to pierce the infinitesimally thin sheet that separates what is, and what would have been.
JL: To prove a point.
Q: Yes.
JL: I see. Can you stop the dreams, please?
Q: I'm afraid not. It's your entire universe's reason for existing. I could end your universe, of course. My point HAS been proven. You wouldn't feel a thing.
JL: NO! No. No. Please. What do you want.
Q: Well I did sort of... forget about you. Here. To be fair, I've been very busy. But in retrospect, after some soul-searching, I can't help but feel a little bit of remorse.
JL: For creating a torture universe to torture me into proving a point to some other version of me?
Q: Well put. So I am here to try and make it right. I have decided to give you a wish. Since this entire universe is about you, after all, it only seems fair that you are comfortable in it. Name it.
JL: A wish?
[by this point he is red with anger. he takes a second, after which he takes on a familiar ice]
All I ever wanted was an answer. You've given me that. All I ever needed was safety. Which doesn't exist. [a beat.]
All those nightmares, they're all real. There are Picards out there in danger, dying. And I'm linked to them, by you, by the rules of this universe. So I am going to go out there and [deep breath] save them.
Q: [looking ashen-faced] Hey, now, Picard. There's rules against that sort of thing you know?
JL: And there aren't rules against creating universes?
Q: Wouldn't you prefer to be emperor of a hedonistic palace of earthly...
JL: No I wouldn't. I've seen how those types of emperors end, remember?
Q: Come now, Picard. This isn't you [gesturing to his uniform]. You're no hero.
JL: It's all me. It was all me. And you? I remember you from so many dreams... Q. [Q sharply inhales at this] Your wishes and your presence are not required. I have some... quantum physics to research. And some people to save.

We pan down to his bookshelf, passing classic literature and technical treatises until we land on a dusty spine of a Starfleet Academy graduate thesis TAPESTRY OF THREADS: THE PHYSICS OF WORLDLINES by one Jean Luc Picard.

And below that, a device concealed underneath the lip of the bookshelf starts blinking, and after a few seconds, dissolves away.

chaosbreather fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Aug 9, 2022

Nice Tuckpointing!
Nov 3, 2005

The Fear posted:

I'm behind and don't have cable what's the deal with Picard eh? it sucks? I like him but have not seen anything about it can someone please advise

Dan Murrel (who made the TNG Honest Trailer five years ago) just dropped an hour-long "look how they massacred my boy" style of criticism of Season 2.

https://youtu.be/qKufJoRSr6c

It gets a bit in the weeds, but the guy sure does his homework.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesPhi44/status/1556931413840109568

By the way Janeway did nothing wrong.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
Tuvix also had the best uniform.

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


Janeway, you get homicidal when you’re hungry. Here, have a Snickers.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_25M_-SKQ

The Royale has to be one of the funniest episodes for showing the TNG crew completely baffled by 20th century concepts.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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The real question, is right tuvix vs left tuvix

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Arc Hammer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_25M_-SKQ

The Royale has to be one of the funniest episodes for showing the TNG crew completely baffled by 20th century concepts.

I actually like that episode for all of its many faults. I just like the idea they have to play along with the Casino rules.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
in one universe neelok survived

naem
May 29, 2011

DARTH Neelok

DJ_Mindboggler
Nov 21, 2013

Arc Hammer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_25M_-SKQ

The Royale has to be one of the funniest episodes for showing the TNG crew completely baffled by 20th century concepts.

Lmao I forgot they used that music for that scene. That revolving door may as well be a glowing obelisk in the tomb of a long-dead alien king.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Nah, it's not the door that's confusing it's the nonliminal space of going through the door as expected and winding up back in the hotel. It's just shown poorly with a static shot and the transparent doors.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



for me the funny part is riker angrily responding "that's not good enough!" to being told the exits are clearly marked.

and you tell me they don't understand the 20th century??

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
They also get confused by a telephone and the concept of room service.

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