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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Horatius Bonar posted:

Anyway I'd use 英國 since the language lands better if you think of it in terms of Taiwanese Official characters

Extra strokes for reddit folks

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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


Nancy, welcome to the resistance

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
By Craig Singleton, a senior China fellow at the Foundation For Defense of Democracies

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
"China fellow" sounds like something Biden would say in one of his rambling stories

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

indigi posted:

my handwriting is so awful idk that I’d have graduated elementary school if I had to write Chinese characters

i didnt get why the communists invented simplified characters until i started doing brush strokes for traditional after learning simplified for awhile and quickly realizing that a lot of traditional characters are just convoluted horseshit for no reason like why the hell does the verb to hear need like twenty brush strokes

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
They only made literacy more accessible to spread their evil communist propaganda

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

"China fellow" sounds like something Biden would say in one of his rambling stories

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1478628314537472002

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Jetlag must be causing her to sundown. This Nancy interview is completely incoherent. I have no idea if she meant to call China "freest" or if she meant taiwan. First she says they're talking to China about climate, then the interviewer says that her visit shut down climate talks and she says they were never talking. She's rambling the entire time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb02loac8sc&t=310s

Time stamped for china question.

this allusion meant
Apr 9, 2006
speaking of simplification, what's up with this poster? the graphic is simplified and the block print is traditional. you can even see red written two different ways. didn't have time to produce new print blocks? strategically waiting until the next round of simplification before ordering new ones? baffling artifacts, gpcr posters. big fan of the ones for a few years where they printed the pinyin before deciding that was cringe or whatever

KomradeX posted:

Latest Brain in a Jar take


Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

China is martialing its reserve pool of the unemployed in a move observers describe as "terrifying." "Can they do that?"

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

KomradeX posted:

That second picture looks cool as poo poo though

Im pretty sure it's taiwan in the second picture

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

ikanreed posted:

Extra strokes for reddit folks

traditional is great

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Some Guy TT posted:

i didnt get why the communists invented simplified characters until i started doing brush strokes for traditional after learning simplified for awhile and quickly realizing that a lot of traditional characters are just convoluted horseshit for no reason like why the hell does the verb to hear need like twenty brush strokes

its not horseshit lmao

edit:

wait until you get to book 3 when you learn there's cursive script

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 03:58 on Aug 10, 2022

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Orange Devil posted:

China constantly on the verge of crisis.

Meanwhile in the West, crises everywhere.

China is constantly on the verge of crisis, and we are constantly on the cusp of our crises being resolved forever and things going back to normal. no matter how significant or cascading our problems the most urgent thing to believe is that no matter how bad it's gotten it's still getting better

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

China blasting Nancy with "r-rays" from their Havana syndrome satellite

Horatius Bonar
Sep 8, 2011

ikanreed posted:

Okay, so I'm missing something, but I don't know what I'm missing.

At the hands of the, sigh, 英文.

loving nailed it now thanks, needed that little extra something you were right

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Some Guy TT posted:

i didnt get why the communists invented simplified characters until i started doing brush strokes for traditional after learning simplified for awhile and quickly realizing that a lot of traditional characters are just convoluted horseshit for no reason like why the hell does the verb to hear need like twenty brush strokes

cant have the riffraff learn to read and write now can we? as we all know literacy is the gateway drug to communism

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Cerebral Bore posted:

cant have the riffraff learn to read and write now can we? as we all know literacy is the gateway drug to communism

what is the impact on literacy. 馬 became 马 so now I can read? it's just a different font.

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Antonymous posted:

what is the impact on literacy. 馬 became 马 so now I can read? it's just a different font.

Traditional characters are a form of labor theft

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I think the two scripts are still like 60-70% identical, I mean there's no difference for most characters anyway, and some simplifications are pretty subtle like 说/說 where the radicals have changed but mostly to reduce strokes, making them more like handwritten form.

Or you have 国 which ironically is just an alternative traditional form. Japanese uses this form for example. 云 was the original form of 雲 etc.

Or handwriting forms of whole characters becoming the standard, 書 is written as 书 in cursive.

Or homophones like 麵 面 where there's no ambiguity.

I think characters are due for more rounds of simplification but ironically now that mainland is 95%+ literate nobody wants to change the characters anymore lol

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I bet 99%+ of chinese writing is done in pinyin on electronic devices anyway.

(Or, in taiwan, using zhuyin.)

no body gives a poo poo. at least if you learn traditional it's easier to read simplified than the other way around.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

yeah very funny how as soon as they achieved their goal they didnt feel the need to keep pushing it

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Antonymous posted:

I bet 99%+ of chinese writing is done in pinyin on electronic devices anyway.

hence why i didnt get the point of simplified chinese until i started trying to manage the brush strokes yeah its no big deal if youre using pinyin on a computer but its a much bigger pain in the rear end when you have to write it out by hand and thats the context where simplified chinese came from in the first place

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I think simplified is better in the same sense that color is better than colour

注音 is actually better though. It's harder to see how to pronounce 行 in pinyin.

Xing.

Does it look like it has two 'syllables'? the zhuyin is really clear. ㄒㄧㄥˊ. but as an english speaker "xing" is easier to read cause its familiar even if 'x' has to be fundamentally relearned.

Ironically taiwanese accent makes 行 sound more like what the pinyin looks like. at least to my uneducated ear.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

what does that mean, what do you mean two syllables?

Horatius Bonar
Sep 8, 2011

Yeah I don't know that much,

All I know is every crosswalk in china has a pedestrian Xing.

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


發Q

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

China is martialing its reserve pool of the unemployed in a move observers describe as "terrifying." "Can they do that?"

liberals find government actually doing things to solve problems incomprehensible and terrifying to a Lovecraftian degree

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I would say the simplification is more than simply dropping a u, but yeah, if you are going to conduct a large scale language/script reform, do it while literacy is still relatively low. Turkey and the Soviets did the same thing (obviously the changes to Russian were more minor).

I mean further simplification arguably just isn’t worth the effort versus the disruption it would cause, but certainly the simplification that happened was for the better.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

KomradeX posted:

Latest Brain in a Jar take


here's another article from FP that our red scare and yellow peril propaganda might not be working

https://twitter.com/ForeignPolicy/status/1556279127128301570

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
re chinese healthcare just saw this pop up from ian goodrum

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140019411791872

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140043025616897

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140054769692672

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140061363191808

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140072037642242

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140074420088832

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140082678632448

https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1557140103474003969

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


im cackling like a maniac that apparently theres a chinese version of dallas buyers club which inspired actual political action to solve an ongoing social issue even though the specific problem mentioned in the film had been solved a decade ago

meanwhile a couple of years after liberals in the united states were jerking themselves off to how good their politics are since they watched dallas buyers club they then started jerking off to the guy who caused all the problems described in dallas buyers club as he proceeded to do them again

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
"a movie that delivers such scathing social commentary that it's directly attributable to triggering politicians to enact a significant material change" is the sort of thing that liberals only dream of (and indeed, keep trying to make happen), and yet...

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Mantis42 posted:

Drake No: 蔡英文
Drake Yes: 肏英文

菜英文

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMvg9OWUneo

idk who caitlin is but apparently she's australian!?!?!?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

crepeface posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMvg9OWUneo

idk who caitlin is but apparently she's australian!?!?!?

Caitlin Johnstone is Australian, yes.

She's in the left twittersphere that tends to intersect with the likes of the Grayzone boys, Glenn Greenwald (on foreign policy at least), the squirrel account, but has so far managed to avoid falling into nuttery as with Max Blumenthal's takes on COVID or Jimmy Dore in general.

If that second sentence makes zero sense to you just ignore it and forget I said anything.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

theres just one thing i dont understand if the chinese government censors all criticism of the state in its movies then how did this movie ever get to theaters

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://bou.si/rest/pelosi2.mp4

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

Caitlin Johnstone is Australian, yes.

She's in the left twittersphere that tends to intersect with the likes of the Grayzone boys, Glenn Greenwald (on foreign policy at least), the squirrel account, but has so far managed to avoid falling into nuttery as with Max Blumenthal's takes on COVID or Jimmy Dore in general.

If that second sentence makes zero sense to you just ignore it and forget I said anything.
she's a consistent anti-imperialist and i like her. i don't know if she's a "communist" (but whatever, not everyone who calls themselves one knows what they're talking about) but i think that because she doesn't give off obvious "red" vibes, she attracted a lot of MAGA followers recently because of her ukraine takes, but she gets annoyed by their sinophobia and blasts them and doesn't give a gently caress instead of trying to pander to them as some others do. that is kinda entertaining to watch. she's like a master of her own feed and i like people like that.

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1487964622095552513

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 10:15 on Aug 10, 2022

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