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a mysterious cloak posted:Waaiiiit now Mutable can't close until I get Plaits for my non-existent modular setup OMG Well that one has been looming on the horizon for years and the decision to wind down the operation has been less about chip shortage or commercial viability but due to Émilie’s need to move on to something else (or that’s my interpretation of the situation). It’s a decision that I understand and respect and I’m thankful for all the great modules of theirs that I’ve gotten to use over the years. In Mutable’s case though you can get most of the modules as DIY versions. Sometimes the clones are even slightly superior compared to the originals. Clouds for instance has various clones that have dedicated knobs/sliders and CV inputs for all the parameters that are hidden beneath a single ”multimode” knob in the original. SpaceGoatFarts posted:That rocks! Also there's something about that stage that makes it feel like you are at a house warming party and I love it. Thanks! Yeah it was a fun venue. The festival took place at a farmhouse and this stage was in a shed or a garage by a barn. The festival was a very DIY kinda affair but quite ambitious with two evenings/nights of music and other events across 3 or 4 stages. The potluck booze bar was pretty dangerous but thankfully the timing of my gig put some limits to how I used it.
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I'm not in any danger of buying one again, but how does Akai's MPC One product page not have a section where it goes over the built in synth engines and such? It's not even in a footnote as far as I can tell. OR it's 6:20am and I'm posting before my coffee has had a chance to perk me up, and I missed something staring me right in the face. I was just looking to see what stuff they've added to the OS between when I sold it and now but I'm not gonna download a fuckin manual to do that  e: Not that I expect the manual to be up to date, mind. e2: Oh ok the plugins have their own page. But it's not referenced anywhere on the main MPC One product page. If you cmd-F for "plugin" you get nothing 
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I’ll be honest, not that I want it to happen or anything like that but I’ve been thinking this would happen sooner or later. There was just too big a golden era boom of module manufacturers and no way it was going to sustain that ecosystem forever. Still sucks watching it start to happen though.
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toadee posted:I’ll be honest, not that I want it to happen or anything like that but I’ve been thinking this would happen sooner or later. There was just too big a golden era boom of module manufacturers and no way it was going to sustain that ecosystem forever. Still sucks watching it start to happen though. Def sucks but yeah, it was just boutique pedals again- to an even more niche market. To be honest, without the cheap ucontroller explosion turning so many young makers into embedded developers I don't think it would've even gone as long as it has. There was a Stage II booster of digital modules doing way too much a little bit back there during our synth renaissance rocket burn. Interesting times.~ Wonder what larger players like sweetwater are thinking about the euro they've picked up. All my old ears are dead or retired. some kinda jackal posted:I'm not in any danger of buying one again, but how does Akai's MPC One product page not have a section where it goes over the built in synth engines and such? I like em! Epiano has mostly supplanted my usual kurz patch!  
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j.peeba posted:Well that one has been looming on the horizon for years and the decision to wind down the operation has been less about chip shortage or commercial viability but due to Émilie’s need to move on to something else (or that’s my interpretation of the situation). It’s a decision that I understand and respect and I’m thankful for all the great modules of theirs that I’ve gotten to use over the years. I read a little more about mutable and saw she stopped making stuff 3 years ago too... Oh well. If I ever get around to it a DIY would work - I forgot she released the firmware publicly. Unrelated: imagine thinking "Man, I wish there was a granular vst that worked just like pigments" and ignoring Efx Fragments the whole time. Because my uh friend did exactly that
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a mysterious cloak posted:I read a little more about mutable and saw she stopped making stuff 3 years ago too... Oh well. If I ever get around to it a DIY would work - I forgot she released the firmware publicly. From a 'build a successful company that transitions from manufacturing to licensing IPs' mutable didn't really pan out, but I can't really think of a successful modern designer who's more prolific (or who's designs are, anyway) than Emilie. There's 3-4 american companies off the top of my head that are doing tweaked and/or cost cutting versions of her stuff as a business model. You can say that about Bob and Don and Alan and Tom and maybe Dave and Serge and Grant (Richter) and Eric and the Roland Corporation as a whole (interesting how much harder it is to find the names behind the System100 stuff than the American counterparts). And like maybe some of those names are a reach but also maybe not, like that's just how thin competition is at the top. Which is also to say that as long as the code is hosted and the chips are get-able (or the code portable), these things aren't going anywhere. Startyde posted:Def sucks but yeah, it was just boutique pedals again- to an even more niche market. To be honest, without the cheap ucontroller explosion turning so many young makers into embedded developers I don't think it would've even gone as long as it has. There was a Stage II booster of digital modules doing way too much a little bit back there during our synth renaissance rocket burn. Interesting times.~ Wonder what larger players like sweetwater are thinking about the euro they've picked up. All my old ears are dead or retired. Well put. I like to imagine things could survive at a 2012-level but also so much enthusiasm around then was people figuring out what to do with 80s chips and stuff like opto-resistors that were cheap and obsolete then and are expensive and still obsolete now. Wonder if theres e.g. enough orders to sustain Alfa (minus their other, more local concerns...) absent STM churning stuff out on like a 2016 level.
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There are huge disruptions in global logistics and manufacturing that have essentially wiped out the systems that manufacturers have depended on up to now. Many will not find a way to keep operating without those systems in place. The hope is that some semblance of a new or at least partially patched back together system will eventually develop, and there can be something closer to stability in the supply chain that can support a business model of some kind. At least with MI, the IP isn't stuck in some kind of litigation hell nightmare. It is blessedly open to be used in the future.
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B33rChiller posted:There are huge disruptions in global logistics and manufacturing that have essentially wiped out the systems that manufacturers have depended on up to now. Yes... and no. TI and STM type disruptions, sure. If you have a factory and you're just waiting for the right semiconductors, I see the hope. Stuff like JLCPCB though, w/ pick n place prototype runs that are big enough to be a product launch, are responsible for facilitating a huge amount of new entrants in the last 5 years. Its tough to imagine that coming back even if the microcontrollers do start flowing again. What's significant to me is that these firms allowed people to start a manufacturing company without ever having to set up a supply chain, just by using basically extra cycles in fab houses or container space etc. That wasn't a thing 10, 20 years ago and like everything I know about energy use tells me it would be better for the planet if it never happened again (barring some future tech we don't know about yet)
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I'm a neophyte but polyphonic aftertouch is  when I read about it I thought "oh cool, like a piano, kind of" without thinking about the very obvious differences holding a long chord and being able to emphasize or back of individual notes and modulate that up and down, combined with patch chain effects to modify the effect of sustain / vibrato is just not like any keyboard touching I've ever donewhy isn't every velocity sensitive midi kb like this edit: this manual is 98 pages and I think it will be a month before I understand how to make a patch that's just a polyphonic square wave 
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Aug 10, 2022 01:03
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It’s fuckin sweet now give me a dang wavestate se korb I will order one today seriously
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Cabbages and Kings posted:why isn't every velocity sensitive midi kb like this it's more expensive and is more poo poo to break. also at and especially poly at just devour midi bandwidth. also there aren't, or at least weren't, many synths that supported it, so there's also the chicken and egg thing. like microtonality, no one implements it because no one wants it because no one implements it
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I’ve been playing vintage Sega games and it’s giving me inspiration to make chiptune beeps. This is from 1994 and it slaps so hard: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8G40yhxNQ The Yamaha chip they put in these was so neat.
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Rolo posted:I’ve been playing vintage Sega games and it’s giving me inspiration to make chiptune beeps. Check out the streets of rage 3 soundtrack, it's literally just detroit technology re-interpereted through 90s fm. https://youtu.be/kRrf-WxRsgs
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Funny enough I was trying to port some sounds from the Genesis over to my Digitone and... well it isn't going great. Even beyond the grittiness on the YM2612, the DN's 8 algorithms are for the most part different than what's on the '12, and it throws me off.
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field balm posted:detroit technology
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Rolo posted:I’ve been playing vintage Sega games and it’s giving me inspiration to make chiptune beeps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjhWiv-7Uc
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Tayter Swift posted:Funny enough I was trying to port some sounds from the Genesis over to my Digitone and... well it isn't going great. Even beyond the grittiness on the YM2612, the DN's 8 algorithms are for the most part different than what's on the '12, and it throws me off. This is always what screwed me up about learning FM. Once the tutorials get past "the modulator changes the carrier" they dive into specific sound design and unless you got the exact same hardware they have you can't follow along. Something else, such as the algorithms or the envelopes, are implemented just different enough that you can't get the same sound. It gets better over a zillion iterations because you start to figure it out on your own but it's annoying there's no one size fits all solutions.
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Google Butt posted:Welp just unboxed my opsix, hosed screen out of the box.. max brightness. Coolnezzz posted:Uggh that sucks. As of earlier today mine hadn't shipped yet per Reverb, so I'm just gonna wait and see what happens...
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minidracula posted:Yeah, I'm a little worried about this issue. A commenter "James" over at Synthtopia said similar things and experienced a similar issue (unless that's you Google Butt) here: https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/08/01/korg-opsix-altered-fm-synthesizer-now-available-for-330-was-750/#comment-1460163 Not me, but Ive counted double digit failures across various threads on these relatively niche forums. Still radio silent on my refund request..
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Dumping in-channel stock or already fixed units as refurb sure would be a way to clear out problematic part bin but that'd be lovely to do silently 
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Rolo posted:I’ve been playing vintage Sega games and it’s giving me inspiration to make chiptune beeps. This is so cool. I wish I had the time and determination to do something fun with AT2 because it does a lot of cool stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPBTIc-dwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5OmeasETs etc etc I know it's not specifically chiptune in the sense you're talking about, but.. yeah, those Yamaha chips were *chefkiss*
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Ugh that makes me want an M8, thank goodness I can’t get one. Playing through these games is making sense out of my friend who grew up on the Genesis, got the MegaFM as an adult and won’t stop playing with it. I’ve posted it here before but it’s an FM synth with 2 YM2612 chips per unit and I adore how it sounds in the right hands.  He basically records a ton of patterns off of this onto a google drive we share so I can take them and play on top of it with my OP-1 and Moog. It’s a really neat way to unblock creativity, starting with something already made without my brain being involved.
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I'd been using my no-longer-existing OP-1 mostly as drums for jamming lately, and I am not real happy to think about moving back to the Electribe MKII I have (and should probably just sell at this point), so I started messing with drum patches on the 0coast to some success. My timing sucks here but this was all just hand sync between playing a keyboard and then using a KP3 to fake 4-channel polyphony, I think I'll be generally able to work with this. There's some nice drum patch setups I've found for the mother32, as well, so maybe I'll set those as bass/kick and just let the beatstep run drum lines. Really, really wishing I'd bought a keystep pro instead of a beatstep pro at this point, but it was 5 years ago and hey this way I probably eventually end up with both. (video is just a still image from another video that I stole this patch from, to be clear) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gze13D15H4
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FM is beautiful. https://youtu.be/URWNqs7FEXA
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god drat it now I'm looking at chiptune gear and not working
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minidracula posted:Yeah, I'm a little worried about this issue. A commenter "James" over at Synthtopia said similar things and experienced a similar issue (unless that's you Google Butt) here: https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/08/01/korg-opsix-altered-fm-synthesizer-now-available-for-330-was-750/#comment-1460163 I stumbled on a youtube video yesterday which linked to a Modwiggler post saying this is super common and apparently all the ones that came out of the California warehouse potentially have this screen issue.
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Going to lol hard if this was all a ploy to dump defective stock.
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lol, the software demo for the wavestate only works for 15 minutes before shutting off forever and asking for money. I barely had time to figure out how to change patches on it lol
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Cabbages and Kings posted:god drat it now I'm looking at chiptune gear and not working VCV has some pretty good vintage chip emulations if you don't mind doing it all in software. Or build an m8 headless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRgwE8ar_9s
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A MIRACLE posted:lol, the software demo for the wavestate only works for 15 minutes before shutting off forever and asking for money. I barely had time to figure out how to change patches on it lol You have to close it and re-open it to reset the timer
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xzzy posted:VCV has some pretty good vintage chip emulations if you don't mind doing it all in software. And I always like to mention beepbox.co It handles chiptune sounds pretty good. Astoundingly well, if you compare to many other websites.
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Pollyanna posted:Going to lol hard if this was all a ploy to dump defective stock. I'm going to "lol all the way to the refund page"
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Yeah, I mean at the end of the day all they'd be out is time and frustration since it's clearly defective on arrival and prime candidate for a return. I'd be pissed though.
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hahahah that is so lovely, i didnt realize korg was that kind of company
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some kinda jackal posted:Yeah, I mean at the end of the day all they'd be out is time and frustration since it's clearly defective on arrival and prime candidate for a return. yeah I would have preferred to have a working opsix, but gently caress it I guess. Just got my return label at least
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I'm a little unclear on the actual store, wasn't actually following the discussion before, apologies. Were these from Korg directly and were they listed as new? Do they come with any kind of warranty? Like is calling Korg and being all "yo guess what you sold me a bum please fix it" an option?
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Coolnezzz posted:I stumbled on a youtube video yesterday which linked to a Modwiggler post saying this is super common and apparently all the ones that came out of the California warehouse potentially have this screen issue. Mine came from a California warehouse and the screen is fine. This does seem like a sketchy rollout though. Some redditor got 100 bucks in reverb credit from their order being cancelled: https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/wl1vhj/cancelled_opsix_credits_from_reverb/
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im bummed that i didn't hear about that deal until it's over, even knowing about korg being lovely and dumping defective stock. i'd roll those dice every time i should've paid more attention to this thread! 
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